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October 07, 2020, 02:50:24 PM
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This is the most striking difference between the less developed countries and the developed countries. The less developed government, when they ascend power usually focus on how to succeed themselves as soon as they get in there. This is why they won't do or create long lasting policies. They don't build long lasting projects, they rather do projects that will easily fade off like roads because they will still be there to reaward those contracts. Those reawards of projects certainly don't fly without having percentage bargained with the contractors (who are friends or relatives for their dirty business to be kept secret) to be remitted into their personal account. Since they keep themselves in government for their next tenure, that is the practice and when they can't recontested from the tenure stipulation from the constitution, they would do everything to rig the election and install someone that will be loyal to them and as a stodge and remit percentage of monthly allocation to them and contracts too.

How do such system grow in good things of life?
How would the legal system work this way when the incumbent government still pays allegence to outcome government?
How do the incumbent government get projects executed when 70% of the projects awarded are handled by outcome government still finding theirselves in the corridor of power?
How will such system work when rigging of election is the order.
How will the system work when "Godfatherism" is high against people's wish.

The developed countries are progressive and this is why they focus more on the next generation. They conduct election to produce the best candidate that will better the life's of children unborn.

The major difference is
Person and no institution: The less developed countries rely on person for governance. The president is usually seen as very powerful and overrides every other power both legislature and judiciary because of the way the system works. In Africa for example, the President controls every force arm against the checks and balances that is suppose to balance the system. One of the factors that makes that possible is that the President has the power of appointment (including armed forces, Anthony General and other very important offices in the country) and just for the confirmation of the the legislation. Where his appointment is turned down, he can reappoint and remember it is a system that allows lobbying.

Structure and institution: This is not same here. Structure and institutions are fortified so that no government can manipulate the system, policies without facing the law. This is a progressive system and a big difference.

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October 10, 2020, 07:15:24 AM
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The structure varies from institution to institution the framework has continued its efforts to ensure economic growth and boost development. On the other hand, the crackdown on dissent sparked by an electoral victory may continue as long as the party does not feel that its repression is tarnishing its image in the world disrupting investors the party will continue to do so. Opponents will want to rise as weak as possible based on this increasingly suffocating structure it could provoke groups to extremism.
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November 02, 2020, 05:22:30 PM
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The structure varies from institution to institution the framework has continued its efforts to ensure economic growth and boost development. On the other hand, the crackdown on dissent sparked by an electoral victory may continue as long as the party does not feel that its repression is tarnishing its image in the world disrupting investors the party will continue to do so. Opponents will want to rise as weak as possible based on this increasingly suffocating structure it could provoke groups to extremism.

You have made some nice response but that isn't enough to the point raised in the post. The point is below on the quote

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Structure and institution: This is not same here. Structure and institutions are fortified so that no government can manipulate the system, policies without facing the law. This is a progressive system and a big difference.

Therefore the real issue is, a country that wants to get to the stage of developed nations should assemble personalities that would look at the future beyond just another 4 years of election and its preparation but to focus on goals to build structure that can't be manipulated easily. Many of African government are election oriented and not looking at the coming generation that they would leave behind and that is why corruption is endemic in the system.

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November 02, 2020, 09:14:51 PM
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This is the most striking difference between the less developed countries and the developed countries. The less developed government, when they ascend power usually focus on how to succeed themselves as soon as they get in there. This is why they won't do or create long lasting policies. They don't build long lasting projects, they rather do projects that will easily fade off like roads because they will still be there to reaward those contracts. Those reawards of projects certainly don't fly without having percentage bargained with the contractors (who are friends or relatives for their dirty business to be kept secret) to be remitted into their personal account.
The developed countries are progressive and this is why they focus more on the next generation. They conduct election to produce the best candidate that will better the life's of children unborn.
I'm fortunate to be from a developed country (the UK). However we have the same issue, as do other developed countries. It does depend to an extent which party we have in power, but there is a huge tendency towards short-term thinking. It's all about what will make them look good today, and forget about tomorrow because that will be someone else's problem. There is a huge amount of wealth appropriation and corruption, too. Perhaps less than in less developed countries, but it's certainly still there. I could go into depth with examples of privatisation and systematic asset-stripping, cronyism, corruption, lobbying etc... but I won't, because I think we have a great example of how governments act, and one where we can compare all countries simultaneously, because they all face the same problem: the Covid 19 pandemic.
Look at countries that have acted quickly and decisively, caring more about the health of the population, and smart enough to understand that a short-term initial economic hit is far more beneficial for long-term economic health than waiting until it's too late. You won't find many developed countries giving a good example here, certainly not the UK, not the US, not most of Europe.

Structure and institution: This is not same here. Structure and institutions are fortified so that no government can manipulate the system, policies without facing the law. This is a progressive system and a big difference.
You do make a valid point here. This is indeed a crucial difference, and a reason that developed countries are somewhat less corrupt (it reduces the problem a bit, but certainly doesn't eliminate it). The point is that the people in charge want to be just as corrupt - because people are the same everywhere - it's just that our democracies are somewhat older, and have these safeguards against the elite. One reason that poorer countries are more vulnerable is because they are younger and less stable, which is often a consequence of historic colonialism and exploitation by the richer nations.






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