Which (if any) hardware wallets support importing electrum seed phrases?

[zabzob]

All the hardware wallets support BIP39 seed phrases, but I'm curious whether any can import electrum seed phrases?

[Hatchy]

No there isn't one I know of, electrum generates it's on type of seed phrase, which is not supported by these hardware wallets. It doesn't use the bip39 standard seed. You don't need to import your electrum seed into hard ware wallet, you can as well create one using an airgapped device and electrum so long you don't connect it to the Internet.

[DireWolfM14]

All the hardware wallets support BIP39 seed phrases, but I'm curious whether any can import electrum seed phrases?

None that I'm aware of.  Unless you count an off-line computer as a hardware wallet...

Electrum's seed phrases are quite practical for a software wallet since they can define the script type through the extra checksum that's coded into them.  It would impractical to take a seed that's generated by a software wallet (less secure,) and then use it for hardware wallet.  You would be compromising security right from the get go. 

[Mia Chloe]

Hatchy has given you a very good alternative. Like he said , ELECTRUM doesn't generate BIP39 seed phrases, rather they generate a standard Electrum seed. However an Electrum wallet will support importing both a BIP39 seed phrase or a standard seed phrase as the case may be. Electrum will definitely load up the wallet as long as the check sum is valid and hashes a valid private key.

If you still insist on making use of a hardware wallet rather than an air gapped device, you could also create a regular BIP39 seed phrase after which you can proceed to sweeping the funds from the Electrum wallet to the hard ware wallet.

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You are right ELECTRUM seed are more secure than the regular BIP39 seeds. And also, counting a computer as a hardware wallet would not really add up since its best fit is an airgapped device

[Charles-Tim]

The only BIP39 wallet that I was able to import Electrum seed phrase is Bluewallet. Bluewallet is not a hardware wallet. All other wallets that I have used are BIP39 wallet and only requires import of BIP39 seed phrase.

Generally, I will not advice anyone to be importing seed phrase from one wallet type to another because of the security risks. It is better the seed phrase, keys and addresses are generated on the hardware wallet.

[Pmalek]

The best thing you can do if you want to improve your security and keep using Electrum with a hardware wallet is to generate a new seed on your hardware wallet and connect that wallet with Electrum. Then, move your bitcoin from your old Electrum wallet to the hardware wallet. The fees aren't expensive right now, unless you have way too many UTXOs. Electrum won't have your seed and private keys. Those remain on your hardware device. Electrum is just your go-to software app.

I don't know how many hardware wallets work with Electrum, but some of the well-known brands do. For example, Trezor, Ledger (not recommended anymore), Bitbox, and Coldcard.

[bitmover]

All the hardware wallets support BIP39 seed phrases, but I'm curious whether any can import electrum seed phrases?

First of all, even if possible (which is not) you shouldn't do it.

Hardware wallets are secure because the seed generation happens in an air gapped environment,  totally offline and secure.

Electrum seed generations happens in an online computer, which isn't as safe as a Hardware wallet environment.

You can't acheive a higher security just by transferring an insecure seed to a safe Hardware wallet.  This is not how it works.

Simple move your funds from electrum to your new generated hw wallet

[zabzob]

Understood, thanks guys!

[Pmalek]

Electrum seed generations happens in an online computer, which isn't as safe as a Hardware wallet environment.

To be 100% correct, it's important to mention for the beginners that Electrum seeds can be generated in offline and airgapped computers as well. In other words, Electrum doesn't need internet access to generate your seed and create a new wallet for you. But this is surely not something OP has done. 

You can't acheive a higher security just by transferring an insecure seed to a safe Hardware wallet.  This is not how it works.

That I agree with. Although, I wouldn't use the word "insecure." It makes it sound like there is something wrong with Electrum as a wallet. There isn't, and it can work just fine as a hot wallet. However, hot wallets are less secure than cold wallets regardless if we are talking about Electrum, Bitcoin Core, or something else.

[zabzob]

Electrum seed generations happens in an online computer, which isn't as safe as a Hardware wallet environment.

To be 100% correct, it's important to mention for the beginners that Electrum seeds can be generated in offline and airgapped computers as well. In other words, Electrum doesn't need internet access to generate your seed and create a new wallet for you. But this is surely not something OP has done.  

Actually I have done that!

[Meuserna]

All the hardware wallets support BIP39 seed phrases, but I'm curious whether any can import electrum seed phrases?

SeedSigner does, and it's an excellent hardware wallet.  The main downside is that you can't use SeedSigner's excellent SeedQR feature, which lets you create a QR code of a seed phrase to make it easy to load a seed.  SeedSigner isn't like a typical hardware wallet.  It's airgapped and stateless.  Stateless means it wipes your wallet, including seed and passphrase if you use one, when the device is shut down or rebooted.  This is actually a great security feature.  Airgapped means hackers can't reach the device.  Stateless means if the device gets lost or stolen, no worries since your keys aren't on it.

Here's more info on Electrum seed phrase support with SeedSigner:

https://github.com/SeedSigner/seedsigner/blob/dev/docs/electrum.md

[bitmover]

Electrum seed generations happens in an online computer, which isn't as safe as a Hardware wallet environment.

To be 100% correct, it's important to mention for the beginners that Electrum seeds can be generated in offline and airgapped computers as well. In other words, Electrum doesn't need internet access to generate your seed and create a new wallet for you. But this is surely not something OP has done.  

Actually I have done that!

Creating a secure air gapped computer for seed generation is so much trouble that I really doubt how secure is your environment...

I would consider your seed online generated and just create a new seed for your hardware wallet. Anyway, you don't have other option.

[zabzob]

All the hardware wallets support BIP39 seed phrases, but I'm curious whether any can import electrum seed phrases?

SeedSigner does, and it's an excellent hardware wallet.  The main downside is that you can't use SeedSigner's excellent SeedQR feature, which lets you create a QR code of a seed phrase to make it easy to load a seed.  SeedSigner isn't like a typical hardware wallet.  It's airgapped and stateless.  Stateless means it wipes your wallet, including seed and passphrase if you use one, when the device is shut down or rebooted.  This is actually a great security feature.  Airgapped means hackers can't reach the device.  Stateless means if the device gets lost or stolen, no worries since your keys aren't on it.

Here's more info on Electrum seed phrase support with SeedSigner:

https://github.com/SeedSigner/seedsigner/blob/dev/docs/electrum.md

Thanks, this looks like a good option for importing electrum seeds on a hardware wallet. I see it's DIY, another plus.

[dkbit98]

All the hardware wallets support BIP39 seed phrases, but I'm curious whether any can import electrum seed phrases?

I wouldn't do that if I was in your place.
First, question is how you generated your electrum seed words, it's not secure anymore if this was done with computer connected to the internet.
Second, you have limited number of devices supporting electrum format, and that are mostly DIY signing devices like Seedsigner and maybe Krux.

PS
I just asked stupid Brave AI and I received answer that Ledger and Trezor HW also support this, but I think this is incorrect!

   Ledger Nano S/X: Although Ledger wallets use BIP39/BIP44, they are compatible with Electrum seed words. You can restore your Electrum wallet using the 12-word seed phrase on Ledger devices.
    Trezor T: Trezor wallets also use BIP39/BIP44, but they are compatible with Electrum seed words. You can restore your Electrum wallet using the 12-word seed phrase on Trezor devices.

Please note that:

    Other hardware wallets, like KeepKey, BitPay/Copay, and Mycelium, use BIP39/BIP44 and are not directly compatible with Electrum seed words. You may need to convert your Electrum seed phrase to a BIP39/BIP44-compatible format before restoring it on these devices.
    Electrum wallet seed phrases generated before version 2.0 do not include a checksum, so you’ll need to ensure the correct order of words when restoring the wallet.

[zabzob]

All the hardware wallets support BIP39 seed phrases, but I'm curious whether any can import electrum seed phrases?

I wouldn't do that if I was in your place.
First, question is how you generated your electrum seed words, it's not secure anymore if this was done with computer connected to the internet.
Second, you have limited number of devices supporting electrum format, and that are mostly DIY signing devices like Seedsigner and maybe Krux.

PS
I just asked stupid Brave AI and I received answer that Ledger and Trezor HW also support this, but I think this is incorrect!

   Ledger Nano S/X: Although Ledger wallets use BIP39/BIP44, they are compatible with Electrum seed words. You can restore your Electrum wallet using the 12-word seed phrase on Ledger devices.
    Trezor T: Trezor wallets also use BIP39/BIP44, but they are compatible with Electrum seed words. You can restore your Electrum wallet using the 12-word seed phrase on Trezor devices.

Please note that:

    Other hardware wallets, like KeepKey, BitPay/Copay, and Mycelium, use BIP39/BIP44 and are not directly compatible with Electrum seed words. You may need to convert your Electrum seed phrase to a BIP39/BIP44-compatible format before restoring it on these devices.
    Electrum wallet seed phrases generated before version 2.0 do not include a checksum, so you’ll need to ensure the correct order of words when restoring the wallet.

I get what you're saying about risks of importing a seed created on a connected device onto a hardware wallet, and how it defeats the purpose of a hardware wallet. I created the seed on a laptop with no wifi modem or any other wireless networking devices, using a watch-only wallet on a separate connected device for creating transactions, then signing on the offline machine. I think that's secure enough for my purposes, but of course one can't be too careful.

What interests me about the question of importing an existing seed onto a hardware wallet rather than creating a new seed and transferring the crypto, is I think there's a security vs. privacy issue involved. Migrating bitcoins can entail a certain amount of exposure, as you're creating new transactions on the blockchain and, unless you go through the lengthy and expensive process of moving them one UTXO at a time, also consolidating multiple outputs with each send, linking them together and creating traces for blockchain analysis. If you send the entire balance in a single transaction, you're producing publicly available information about the (minimum) size of a wallet balance that might attract unwanted attention, either immediately or in the future. If you split it into several smaller transactions, you're still consolidating UTXOs which you may not want to do. This, to me, is the appeal of importing the seed rather than transferring the balance. But each to their own, right? There are many ways to tend to one's crypto assets, and no single way can be 100%. But I do think there's a tradeoff here between security and privacy, where increasing one tends to decrease the other, sort of like measuring the velocity and position of a particle according to quantum mechanics. The more accurate one is, the more uncertain the other. Still, it's possible to be cautious enough on both fronts, and what that requires depends on one's purposes and the threat model one is dealing with. I'm not managing El Salvador's bitcoin reserves here, so I figure I'm being careful enough. Maybe I'll just ask an AI to come up with the best solution for me, what could go wrong with that?  

[Pmalek]

PS
I just asked stupid Brave AI and I received answer that Ledger and Trezor HW also support this, but I think this is incorrect!

Yeah, that's surely wrong. Electrum seeds are incompatible with both Ledger and Trezor. There are threads from Trezor's support forum that are only a few months old where their support agents explain that Electrum-native seeds can't be imported into a Trezor. Nothing has changed on that front.

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You can always create multiple wallets to avoid a situation where you don't want to connect bitcoin from multiple sources. It requires more care and greater management of seed backups, but it works. Also, you can create tags and memos for all your transactions and change outputs to provide you with more clarity about what you used those coins for and help you with future transactions.