Can't you send your bitcoins directly to your Neteller account and then exchange with USD/EUR to your Neteller wallet currency?
You wouldn't need to rely on a 3rd party, will surely save time and money on fees.
![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.neteller.com%2Ffileadmin%2Fcontent%2FCryptocurrency%2FDeposit.jpg&t=662&c=jox3xT6DqwAGKw)
![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.neteller.com%2Ffileadmin%2Fcontent%2FCryptocurrency%2FBuy-sell.jpg&t=662&c=nxLE7gydgTjkMg)
neteller.com/features/cryptocurrency
Otherwise, take a look at
https://transcoin.me/ and
https://paybis.com/If the problem with the 2 websites you mentioned is all about KYC verification, check out Hodlhodl as well (and perhaps Localcryptos too)