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November 14, 2020, 05:49:39 AM
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I dont think it will beat centralized exchanges since there is still the underlying issue about regulations "money laundering" but it will certaintly will get some of the market share from those big exchanges.

Seconded just as we're seeing current DeFi relayed decentralized exchange like Uniswap gaining some impressive volumes bigger than most centralized exchange and competing with the top exchanges of recent especially during the ara were the DeFi hype was at its highest. The same way we'll see the atomic swap dex gaining momentum but that doesn't mean they'll be replacing the centralized exchanges.

The CEX are investing so much into bettering themselves that It'll be hard before they become a thing of the past in the industry. You can eee the different innovation and improvement the Binance exchange is introducing simultaneously and very soon and other centralized exchange will catch up. We still have a long way to go before the idea of decentralized trading becomes a major force in the industry.

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November 14, 2020, 05:53:15 AM
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I dont know what will happen in the next few years but atomic swaps and dex are gaining huge volumes especially when UNISWAP gained so much attention from old and new traders, CEX exchanges with high volumes like Binance or Kucoin are really hard to beat but small exchanges are nothing compared to new dex today traders looking not only in GUI but the most important is security, liquidity and volume and the easier to use no registrations, kyc etc., which most people doesn't want it the only problem right now using dex is the cross-chain trading, speed and transaction fees but this will possibly solve in the future as developers are creating more advance dexes trying to compete into cex with cross-chain features like for example this one https://coindefi.org/,, on the other hand with the current advantages of this CEX I think security of our assets must be their no. priority right now we all know like what happened to Kucoin and Im sure this will not stop to many CEX exchanges.  

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November 14, 2020, 07:09:30 AM
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In the current digitally evolving era cryptocurrencies and blockchain technology are simultaneously disrupting businesses and setting an example in the way transactions are conducted and managed atomic changes defeat centralized exchanges atomic changes apply to dex. At present binance is developing much more than the new exchange there will be no change in the nuclear field and centralized exchanges will support it as the sites improve sites like binance from dex will become interesting in terms of transactions.
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November 14, 2020, 08:20:28 AM
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Nobody knows what will happen, but I am sure each of us has some predictions! Lately I am using swapzone, easy to use, especially when I need a quick swap, it's definitely more convenient than opening exchange sending coins there... and in the end you pay fees and spend more time!
Centralized exchanges are most popular, but I think decentralized exchanges and atmic swaps will take their share of that in the future! Of course, we can expect crypto adoption to happen one day, we have a good direction, and with more people there will be a demand for all of them!

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November 18, 2020, 01:37:46 AM
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Nobody knows what will happen, but I am sure each of us has some predictions! Lately I am using swapzone, easy to use, especially when I need a quick swap, it's definitely more convenient than opening exchange sending coins there... and in the end you pay fees and spend more time!
Centralized exchanges are most popular, but I think decentralized exchanges and atmic swaps will take their share of that in the future! Of course, we can expect crypto adoption to happen one day, we have a good direction, and with more people there will be a demand for all of them!

Well, atomic swaps are far from becoming a replacement of centralized exchanges. The technology is promising, but developers are going to need to improve user experience in order to help attract the masses into it. Besides that, centralized exchanges have greater performance than Blockchain-based solutions (like atomic swaps, decentralized exchanges, etc). Decentralized projects will never be able to compete with their centralized counterparts because of the huge discrepancy in performance. Traders want something that's fast, secure, and cheap in order to maximize their profits as much as possible. At least, there's light at the end of the tunnel for atomic swaps. With new scalability solutions such as The Lightning Network, and sidechains, it may be possible to obtain all of the benefits of centralized exchanges in a decentralized project. We now have "AtomicDEX" which is a very promising non-custodial exchange which makes use of "atomic swaps". More projects like this one are needed in order to challenge centralized exchanges' dominance in the crypto/Blockchain space.

Nonetheless, time will tell us whenever atomic swaps will experience mainstream adoption or not. For what I know, the technology is still experimental. There may be a long road ahead before atomic swaps become mature enough for mainstream use. I'm glad that there are still developers out there who care about the decentralization of the crypto/Blockchain space. These solutions (atomic swaps, DEX, etc.) will give people the choice to participate in the decentralized economy even if governments take down centralized exchanges in their entirety. With everything crypto has achieved since its inception, it seems to me that it'll last a lifetime. Just my thoughts Grin

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November 18, 2020, 03:01:52 AM
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Besides that, centralized exchanges have greater performance than Blockchain-based solutions (like atomic swaps, decentralized exchanges, etc). Decentralized projects will never be able to compete with their centralized counterparts because of the huge discrepancy in performance. Traders want something that's fast, secure, and cheap in order to maximize their profits as much as possible.
It depends on the use case. You may be right about for-profit traders who need a high performance. But for people who simply want to exchange BTC for LTC for example, a single time, and thus do not depend on a fast trading performance, atomic swaps can compete with centrally managed exchanges.

An atomic swap in this comparison has often a competitive advantage because a CEX depends on charging a fee (otherwise it would be unprofitable) while an atomic swap does not. There are of course situations where the transaction fees needed for atomic swaps are higher than a typical CEX fee. But this is only a short term advantage, because a CEX will also need to adjust its deposit/withdrawal fee if the on-chain transaction fees are too high to cross-subsidize it. For example, Bitstamp for a long time cross-subsidized the withdrawal fees until it was forced, because of rising average tx fees, to charge a withdrawal fee.

A disadvantage of atomic swaps is the inherent optionality: one of the both traders can opt-out for a certain time. But this problem can be minimized with short timelocks and it can be "productively" used to create option contracts.

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I guess a centralized database will always be faster. But for trading strategies that do not depend on front-running (trading-bot strategies that depend on being faster than others) a LN-based atomic swap exchange may suffice. So I guess in the end DEXes can get a big market share but there will always be a big share for CEXes, too.

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November 18, 2020, 08:04:24 AM
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^ I really like the concept and how the Atomic wallet works, it's very easy for users, and users can have the private key of each coin inside.

For regular exchangers, of course, Atomic is much easier and simpler but Atomic will not be able to take users who are used to trading on Binance or other centralized exchange.

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November 18, 2020, 04:42:37 PM
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Centralized exchanges have one thing going for them right now without a doubt: the cost. Right now if you want to trade on uniswap for example, you have to trade with HUGE costs, and sending one token to get another token could cost as much as 3 to 5 dollars depending on the fee at that moment.

This is why CEX is still cheaper because you are paying % trading fee but that is usually few cents and not too much, maybe if you are dealing with a ton of money you could be leaving a huge chunk on the table but for lower end of the spectrum we are talking about just few cents. Which is why I think it is highly important that DEX finds a way to drop the costs, or ETH needs to find a way to drop it, one way or another transaction fees are killing DEX's right now.

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November 26, 2020, 02:12:13 AM
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Centralized exchanges have one thing going for them right now without a doubt: the cost. Right now if you want to trade on uniswap for example, you have to trade with HUGE costs, and sending one token to get another token could cost as much as 3 to 5 dollars depending on the fee at that moment.

This is why CEX is still cheaper because you are paying % trading fee but that is usually few cents and not too much, maybe if you are dealing with a ton of money you could be leaving a huge chunk on the table but for lower end of the spectrum we are talking about just few cents. Which is why I think it is highly important that DEX finds a way to drop the costs, or ETH needs to find a way to drop it, one way or another transaction fees are killing DEX's right now.

The fee costs of either a centralized or decentralized exchange are relative. Uniswap has high fees because the underlying blockchain network it's built on, has been facing high transaction load. The limited capacity of Ethereum, causes fees to skyrocket in a blink of an eye. It's no wonder why many decentralized exchanges running on the Ethereum blockchain are so expensive to use these days. Fortunately, there are solutions available to tackle the "high fee" issue. Second-layer projects like OMG Network and Zk-Sync aim to reduce fee costs on the blockchain. Decentralized exchanges using a second-layer solution could experience a major reduction in fees, making them as good as their centralized counterparts. Even the upcoming ETH 2.0 scalability upgrade will have a positive effect over fee costs on the Blockchain. Centralized exchanges may have lower fees than their decentralized counterparts, but they're often subject to hacks and theft. It's why decentralized exchanges (especially those using atomic swaps technology) are the best choice for trading crypto-to-crypto in the safest way possible.

Nonetheless, atomic swaps are certainly the way of the future. But the technology is just starting to blossom. Given that centralized exchanges have long dominated the crypto space since its inception, it's unlikely they'll go away anytime soon. At least, people will have a choice to trade crypto without the middleman in a seamless manner. Atomic swaps are better than ordinary decentralized exchanges because they're completely non-custodial (no need to host an exchange on a centralized server, etc.). Imagine being able to exchange BTC to LTC in a quick and easy way directly on the Blockchain without interacting with a central server. It'll certainly increase crypto's adoption all the way to the moon. Just my thoughts Grin

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