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May 05, 2021, 05:18:45 AM
Last edit: May 05, 2021, 01:50:36 PM by Desmong
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Have you ever being in a trade which was in your favour and suddenly the market started moving against your trades. Have you also jump into a trend since you believe the adage that says "Trend is your friend, never go against the trend" and suddenly the market started moving against you? Sometimes we ask ourselves questions like...What is wrong with me? Why doesn't the market only interested in taking my money anytime I intend to trade? Could someone be watching my trade? Why are mine losing trades? etc.

The strange thing is that liquidity gap is very important in the market. The market needs your money to move. For you to win a trade, others need to lose the same trade. This is why their is no 100% strategy, we lose for others to win. Even the successful traders do have a bad day. Trading is based on probability of chosing at random.

One thing we must understand is that the market will not move or else liquidity has been taken off a particular zone. The market needs about 10,000 standard lotsizes to move in a single pip. Liquidity trap entails the concept of induce trap and shift. If the market makers want to buy in the market , they will be looking for sellers to trap then shift the market away from them. These is why sometimes the market always go against our trades in order to take liquidity.
 

LIQUIDITY TRAP ZONES

- Daily high and low
-Weekly high and low
-Monthly high and low
-Yearly high and low
-Swing high and low
-Equal high and low

Note: This info is only based on my little experience in the market, your contributions are welcome!

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May 05, 2021, 02:00:13 PM
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IMO, I think you just had to be more consistent and focus.  The scenarios you provided might only be a coincidence and besides, no one is watching us and I don’t think they would spend enough funds to develop artificial intelligence to go against our trade.

If this really happens it should persist but for now, I personally never experienced this with a pattern that is stinky. This happens to us but very least (at least once) and we know that it was just a coincidence.

AFAIK, we trade with highs and lows but we were able to execute trades in favor of us.  So you might try it again and be careful this time.
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May 05, 2021, 09:56:36 PM
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The amount of liquidity governs the amount of price movement and change, for example if 10 thousand citizens decide to buy bitcoin and put all their savings in it, the price may not change whatever the amount of money they add to the market, but the purchase from a large company or from a government may cause prices to move a lot.
It depends on the amount of liquidity and the volume of daily trading.

Your strategy can be applied to some alternative currencies with lower market capacities.
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May 05, 2021, 10:46:18 PM
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Have you ever being in a trade which was in your favour and suddenly the market started moving against your trades. Have you also jump into a trend since you believe the adage that says "Trend is your friend, never go against the trend" and suddenly the market started moving against you? Sometimes we ask ourselves questions like...What is wrong with me? Why doesn't the market only interested in taking my money anytime I intend to trade? Could someone be watching my trade? Why are mine losing trades? etc.


Note: This info is only based on my little experience in the market, your contributions are welcome!
The market isn't taking your money, you are just at the wrong timing and sometimes it happens. You/We never control the prices (we don't forget about this), the market moves freely and that might be opposite as what you are thinking. It won't take you money if you never sell but if you let your worries control you and do the panic selling, that eventually you are simply giving it. The market never steal's you but instead, you are willing to give it, but if you just hold, there are no such tragic ends.
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May 07, 2021, 07:43:26 PM
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I will wait until the desired price to reach and will create the trade order near to the actual trading price at the moment, its very rare that I set the price higher than the current price from my experience which I only do when I am sure that the price is in upward trend so its good to go.

But it happens, suddenly the price will start towards the opposite side so you have to wait and wait but if it was me I sill simply modify the order and will be ready to lose small amount from my profits instead of losing my capital.
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May 07, 2021, 07:58:02 PM
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Without a doubt the markets does need our money as We fall in the bracket of retail traders, and like you said liquidity traps exist because this is were you find most retail traders placing stops and pending orders and price always mitigates around these areas to close those losing trades in profit or to break even and most importantly get liquidity so these market makers know we are there.


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May 08, 2021, 10:43:03 PM
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The market isn't taking your money, you are just at the wrong timing and sometimes it happens. You/We never control the prices (we don't forget about this), the market moves freely and that might be opposite as what you are thinking. It won't take you money if you never sell but if you let your worries control you and do the panic selling, that eventually you are simply giving it. The market never steal's you but instead, you are willing to give it, but if you just hold, there are no such tragic ends.
The market needs your money to make reasonable movement in case your don't know. Have you ever asked yourself why the market is always sluggish (dull movement) at the beginning or ending of the market? Why there is always a low momentum of price at the closing time of the New York session. This is because of low participants in the market. By that time, a lot of people have left the market maybe because they've made enough profits/loses meeting their targets.

You can't be smarter than the market makers, they manipulate the market to suit their prospects, that's why their is never a 100% working strategy...never! They're all seeing where you placed your market orders which they can decided to hit your stop loses thinking maybe your timing is somehow poor but no, they're watching your silent moments lol. Go and research on mitigation blocks and liquidity grab so as to see the manipulation of the market makers. I come in peace!



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May 09, 2021, 02:55:31 PM
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I will wait until the desired price to reach and will create the trade order near to the actual trading price at the moment, its very rare that I set the price higher than the current price from my experience which I only do when I am sure that the price is in upward trend so its good to go.

But it happens, suddenly the price will start towards the opposite side so you have to wait and wait but if it was me I sill simply modify the order and will be ready to lose small amount from my profits instead of losing my capital.
besides using a strategy like you, I usually divide the capital that I will use for trading into several prices for pending orders, so we can wait on the support support that we analyze, so we don't lose the moment. we don't know where the price reversal will go, but I think the support remains an attractive area to buy

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May 18, 2021, 10:24:10 AM
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I will wait until the desired price to reach and will create the trade order near to the actual trading price at the moment, its very rare that I set the price higher than the current price from my experience which I only do when I am sure that the price is in upward trend so its good to go.

But it happens, suddenly the price will start towards the opposite side so you have to wait and wait but if it was me I sill simply modify the order and will be ready to lose small amount from my profits instead of losing my capital.
besides using a strategy like you, I usually divide the capital that I will use for trading into several prices for pending orders, so we can wait on the support support that we analyze, so we don't lose the moment. we don't know where the price reversal will go, but I think the support remains an attractive area to buy
We can't actually predict the price only with the market movements like technical Analysis using indicators,etc since one tweet from Elon Musk causes the whole market to crash so just go with your price all the time. Diversity is also good as long as you are okay with less profit making if the orders just gets executed in no time when the market faces sudden rise.
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