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Author Topic: Covid-19 Vaccinated people will die in 2 years  (Read 203 times)
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May 29, 2021, 09:24:56 PM
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People would die regarding if they got vaccinated or not if it's your time, It's your time you couldn't do anything about it.
I think it was created for FUD on the vaccine but I don't see any reason for doing it?
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May 29, 2021, 11:17:32 PM
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This guy is talking about antibody dependent enchancement, and I found a research paper examining this phenomenon with respect to vaccine therapeutics, published September of 2020 - https://www.nature.com/articles/s41564-020-00789-5

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Antibody-based drugs and vaccines against severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) are being expedited through preclinical and clinical development. Data from the study of SARS-CoV and other respiratory viruses suggest that anti-SARS-CoV-2 antibodies could exacerbate COVID-19 through antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE). Previous respiratory syncytial virus and dengue virus vaccine studies revealed human clinical safety risks related to ADE, resulting in failed vaccine trials. Here, we describe key ADE mechanisms and discuss mitigation strategies for SARS-CoV-2 vaccines and therapies in development. We also outline recently published data to evaluate the risks and opportunities for antibody-based protection against SARS-CoV-2.

They also go on to say this:

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Evidence for vaccine-induced ADE in animal models of SARS-CoV is conflicting, and raises potential safety concerns. Liu et al. found that while macaques immunized with a modified vaccinia Ankara viral vector expressing the SARS-CoV S protein had reduced viral replication after challenge, anti-S IgG also enhanced pulmonary infiltration of inflammatory macrophages and resulted in more severe lung injury compared to unvaccinated animals66. They further showed that the presence of anti-S IgG prior to viral clearance skewed the wound-healing response of macrophages into a pro-inflammatory response. In another study, Wang et al. immunized macaques with four B-cell peptide epitopes of the SARS-CoV S protein and demonstrated that while three peptides elicited antibodies that protected macaques from viral challenge, one of the peptide vaccines induced antibodies that enhanced infection in vitro and resulted in more severe lung pathology in vivo67.

The fact is, we don't know exactly how this mechanism would work in relation to the Covid vaccine, and we also don't know the exact mutation rate of Covid. Covid could mutate into a form that kills the virus itself (known as a lethal mutation). Of course we don't hear about these mutations because they obviously can't spread. The vaccines are good against the Indian variants, we have no way to predict whether a future variant will appear and be ineffective against the vaccines. And we're also not sure if Covid antibodies from vaccines engage in the ADE mechanism. This guy in the video seems to speculate a lot.

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May 30, 2021, 02:31:35 AM
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I will prefer a quick one word answer, should we get vaccinated or not ?

Yes.

Please don't believe unsubstantiated and misleading conspiracist nonsense. Instead, look at the data and form your own conclusions. There is a wealth of information on Covid out there, from numerous independent sources around the world: https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus

If someone genuinely believes that vaccinated people will die within two years, then they don't understand how vaccines work. A basic grasp of science is important; it helps people to form logical, evidence-based conclusions.
Also yes from me too.
If it wasn't from vaccines, the average life expectancy would be 40 years old. Vaccination has eradicated many infectious diseases, such as polio, measles or smallpox. It's our only way out of this pandemic and there are actual examples that the Covid-19 vaccines are working properly. A quick look at UK's or Israel's cases and deaths, which have dropped dramatically, from Worldometers won't disappoint you.

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May 30, 2021, 08:26:03 AM
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New variants are a threat to the community when the speed of spread and virulence are stronger than previous versions. And if the kind of people doesn't control the epidemic, vaccinations may be pointless.
Vaccination is a way to create a shield to protect people against Viruses. To conclude about the use of the Virus, we need more time to observe how effective it is.
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May 30, 2021, 09:19:06 AM
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So there is no such things as dying in 2 years. Then what is the point of that title  Huh

Yes, there is no such thing as dying in 2 years.
The reason i posted this topic to know the reality because it was widely spreading in the social media most probably to create the fud.
I am locking this topic as there are many other threads to continue the discussion for covid 19.

Remember You can die even before getting vaccinated, after getting vaccinated or you can live 100 more years with or without vaccine.   Smiley

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