Do Hardware wallet Manufacturers Ship to PO Boxes or Not?

[Pmalek]

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I remember reading that reply some time ago. 60 days is certainly better than 1 year or 10 years. It would be interesting to learn more about their offline solution and how they deal with security. Who has access to the data, and decryption keys for example? If I was a pissed off Foundation employee and a scumbag looking to profit anyway possible, could I easily gain access to the offline system and copy what I need from it? 

[DaveF]

So since I had the spiffy 35% off coupon [ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5421345 ] for a keystone I ordered one.
Was correct in my assumption that at least in the US they use Amazon for fulfillment. So at least here, you can probably get it delivered anyplace.



As always YMMV and based on what country you are in it will probably vary a lot.

-Dave

[Pmalek]

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Thanks for your feedback. Everything that I wrote in the table was correct at the time of writing. Maybe there were changes in the meantime or the information you see in your location is different from what I see on my end. I will go through the suggestions you made, double-check myself, and correct if needed.

[rohanagarwal7]

Can you please add Cypherock wallet?

We ship to PO boxes and we accept BTC through Coinbase Commerce.

[Pmalek]

Can you please add Cypherock wallet?

Sorry, but I don't know anything about your product. I have seen your posts in the last couple of days advertising your wallet in various discussion threads all over the Hardware Wallet section. This thread has information on a a few selected brands that most people have heard about. There are many others that are missing, and I have no plans to add them. At least not for now.

[Lucius]

I know this is an old topic, but there's no point in opening a new one to ask one question. Has anyone ordered Trezor from the official website to a PO Box in the EU lately? I tried to find some info on their website, but as far as I can see there's nothing on the subject.

I know that in the OP it is stated that they officially support it, but in 2-3 years something can always change.

[Pmalek]

I know that in the OP it is stated that they officially support it, but in 2-3 years something can always change.

A lot can change, and obviously for the worst, considering the direction the EU is taking for anything related to privacy and personal freedoms. If you are interested in buying a Trezor device and would like to have it delivered to a PO box, I would suggest you contact the company over live chat or e-mail and ask them straight. They have a virtual AI bot as chat agent at first, but you can get around it after a while and get in contact with a real person.

[Pmalek]

Trezor is now shipping their devices to thousands of Packeta pick-up points in Germany, Slovakia, and Czechia. If you don't want to have the hardware wallets delivered to your home address out of fear of a database leak and you live in one of those three countries, you don't have to any longer. Trezor also says it makes the delivery costs cheaper.

This is the number of Packeta pick-up point locations according to official sources:
- Germany: 16,704
- Czechia: 10,000+
- Slovakia: 3,248 

https://x.com/Trezor/status/1953087257016946990

[Coiner.de]

In Germany Hermes pick-up points fulfil the service. So in my case the sender as shown on the packet was Packeta. Not even the pick-up point has a clue. Nice!

[Pmalek]

In Germany Hermes pick-up points fulfil the service. So in my case the sender as shown on the packet was Packeta. Not even the pick-up point has a clue. Nice!

I am a bit confused with your reply and the route your package took to get to you. More precisely, to the Hermes pick-up point. Does Trezor also ship to Hermes pick-up points in Germany or was it you who sent something from a Packeta to a Hermes pick-up point?

[Coiner.de]

Sorry!
I think Packeta does not do business in Germany, at least not under this name.


I figure Trezor gives the packet to Packeta, Packeta gives it to Hermes in Germany, Hermes transports it to the Hermes pick-up point where I picked it up.
The nice side effect in my case was that the sender shown on the packet that I picked up in the Hermes pick-up point was not SatoshiLabs but Packeta.

[Pmalek]

Sorry!
I think Packeta does not do business in Germany, at least not under this name.

I figure Trezor gives the packet to Packeta, Packeta gives it to Hermes in Germany, Hermes transports it to the Hermes pick-up point where I picked it up.
The nice side effect in my case was that the sender shown on the packet that I picked up in the Hermes pick-up point was not SatoshiLabs but Packeta.

OK, now I understand what you mean.
They have an official website for Germany here > https://www.packeta.de/. It says that they have over 16,000 pick-up points. At the same time, they also have close to 190,000 partner pick-up points. Hermes transports might be one of them, depending on the region and city. 16,000 locations might sound like a lot at first, but it isn't really. Especially if you live in a smaller town.

[Lucius]

I can only say that I ordered a Trezor HW on PO Box a few months ago and it arrived without any problems. I used the PO Box of a private company that has post offices all over the world. I don't see why any company would hesitate to send packages to a PO Box if the client wants it?

For those who do not want their data to ever be leaked to the public, and do not have the opportunity to buy HW in a physical store, this delivery method is the best option.

[Pmalek]

I don't see why any company would hesitate to send packages to a PO Box if the client wants it?

I think US shipping companies are still pretty restrictive on this subject. Ordering shipments to PO boxes works but it depends on which carrier ships the packages. I think it was already mentioned in this thread that DHL or UPS doesn't send to PO boxes but USPS does. So if the hardware wallet manufacturer sends via USPS, which it probably doesn't, you can use this privacy feature to your advantage. If not, then you are out of luck. There are certainly similar curiosities in other countries.