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December 13, 2021, 03:29:02 PM
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Is is a crime or a plagiarism if you know that your english is not very good. You write a long arricle and give it to another person to correct the english in the article for you before you will now post it in the group or forum.

That really depends on many things. I cannot offer legal advice as I am not a lawyer, but if that person who corrects your article is using plagerised text, then you may be liable for posting it. Especially if the article is used to make money or advertise services that are supposed to generate a profit.

Or perhaps if the person who corrects the text is expected to be paid for his services and you use the text without paying.

As I said, it depends on the context.

However if its a volunteered edit, with no expected pay, and no copy/pasted plagerisms, then it should be totally fine to use. Cool

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December 13, 2021, 06:42:41 PM
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  • I will not give anybody my work to correct me
  • I will download grammarly application

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December 13, 2021, 06:47:32 PM
 #43

  • I will not give anybody my work to correct me
  • I will download grammarly application

Grammarly is without a doubt one of the most popular spelling and grammar checking tool on the Internet. However, you can also try out ProWritingAid (Free Version) if you're looking for an almost as good but also less expensive alternative. It's not as sophisticated as Grammarly, but if you need a quick and inexpensive way to catch spelling and grammar errors, you can't go wrong with this tool.


Grammarly free version is of very limited use, you have to buy its premium version to get full benefit. As far as OP question is concerned, i think he must try himself posting contents that why his English will improve and his confidence will be developed. Getting help from other wont improve your english.
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December 13, 2021, 08:21:40 PM
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It is not crime or plagiarism if ask a friend for help to correct some error in an article you wrote but it will only be plagiarism if the friend decides to post the article before you after she's done correcting the article.
So, I hope the person is someone you totally trust because there is some situation where someone else ideas are stolen.
If the person you asked to correct your article has posted the given article first, it won't be plagiarism since the original version has never been known to the public.
What you said here is not applicable to the forum stance concern plagiarism and if you check the plagiarism thread, you'll know that if the person that corrected the article post the article before the original version is posted some statements that are the same in the article will be considered as plagiarism since there's no evidence to prove the second person that posts the article is the genuine owner of the content.

Naturally, you will know that someone has clearly stolen your work, but you are going to have hard times trying to convince others you were an original author.
This is what I am trying to say. In a situation when there's no evidence it is better to let go.

There are some important steps that should be taken before you send your work to another person for either correction or publication. For example, if you're not very good at English, then first write an article in your native language, post it somewhere, save all the drafts, and only then translate it to English. It will be easier for you to protect your copyrights if you have all the evidence of your authorship on hand in both digital and physical forms.
It's still the same thing without evidence.

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December 13, 2021, 08:33:35 PM
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It's not a crime, you are just trying to improve your work to quality to the requirement.

Some people do have a brilliant idea but since English is not their main language, so they struggle with grammar sometimes, but since there are people who can work for you on that, of course, you can use their service but at the same time, you should also continue to learn to develop your English proficiency so you'll not rely on other people all the time to get your job done.

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December 13, 2021, 09:06:57 PM
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Is is a crime or a plagiarism if you know that your english is not very good. You write a long arricle and give it to another person to correct the english in the article for you before you will now post it in the group or forum.
It's never a crime to ask someone to assist you in writing an article that you're going to post in the forum. English being the universal language being used here doesn't mean everyone will be perfect writing it here. If you can pass the message rightly and people can understand what you write, you gat no problem with that whether your English is poor or not.
From your forum name is like you're a Nigerian. You can begin to post on Nigeria local boards where you can relate with Nigerians in pidgin.
As for your poor English, is not a big issue. Try and download the Grammarly keyboard on PlayStore. It will correct and build your vocabulary when writing a post

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December 13, 2021, 11:26:04 PM
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If not that finance might be a problem @OP as I may not know your status of financial capacity, given the system that we operate. I can very much inform you that, there are a lot others on the forum who uses the aid of a translator, be it auto or human translator but, they would all serve you just fine.
Good enough, a couple of the translators can be easily found on the service board. If you care so much on the way your message is being received, you might empty there services and hope they deliver.
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December 14, 2021, 02:20:03 AM
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I guess no one would like to get credited by others by just copying their work it's the right of the author to have their names on the quoted statement because they created those with respect and the credibility of the statement. Theres nothing wrong with adjusting some of the sentences as long as the thought is there and even though you make it still it's not your it's the idea of the original author. Plagiarism is one of the hardest punishments for our forum and some of the newcomers do this because they want to get merit and rank up easily. If you are not good with grammar you can use a Grammarly extension.

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December 14, 2021, 10:15:41 PM
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I guess no one would like to get credited by others by just copying their work it's the right of the author to have their names on the quoted statement because they created those with respect and the credibility of the statement. Theres nothing wrong with adjusting some of the sentences as long as the thought is there and even though you make it still it's not your it's the idea of the original author. Plagiarism is one of the hardest punishments for our forum and some of the newcomers do this because they want to get merit and rank up easily. If you are not good with grammar you can use a Grammarly extension.
I have a doubt if someone would use a Grammarly app/extension if their native tongue is not English but maybe a translator of your work will do. They were good at doing this but of course you will have to pay for their hard work. Plagiarizing someone's work is not really a good idea, just imagine it's your work and you sleep less and tired of doing it then after you published it someone just copy your whole idea and post it on their site without your name as a credit. Do you like that? Of course not, because they are monetizing your work with less effort. That's why plagiarism is prohibited in this forum or anywhere.

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December 14, 2021, 11:29:53 PM
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Is is a crime or a plagiarism if you know that your english is not very good. You write a long arricle and give it to another person to correct the english in the article for you before you will now post it in the group or forum.
If you are sure that you didn't cite or get quote from some certain articles or other sources no that is not a crime.
It may belong to be the proof-reading and also editing.
But, what's for your article is?
If you are only going t use it as a post thread in this forum, you may not need to do such proof-reading and editing from expert, because once you are  uttering it for sure, people are here to understand. And as what other members here say, you can use Grammarly to help you.

But, if you are going to use the article to be posted and more readably, unique, human friendly, and also sometimes SEO friendly, yes, you may need proof-reading and editing. This will help you much and you are not plagiarism on it.

And to ensure whether you are plagiarism or not, you are better to use some plagiarism checker tool, you can find them in some providers, bot free and also paid.

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December 14, 2021, 11:54:44 PM
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If you want to improve your grammar and the way you are going to post, I suggest using an app like Grammarly, and then you can post and see the needed replacements on the words or possibly punctuations that you need to add to have a good post in English. Even capitalization would be good. It has a plagiarism checker if you want to make sure you haven't copied anything all over the web.

That's not plagiarism if you are the one who created it and just let someone fix your grammar. But then again, if you have to pay, maybe you can use what I suggested above.

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December 15, 2021, 03:32:47 AM
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A person's desire to improve themselves isn't a crime, but plagiarism is. However, the most important thing is to improve yourself without getting any assistance from others. When you share your articles or content with someone, there is a chance that you may be cheated. However, we have a market for article writers, you can share your ideas/niches, and a writer will be able to provide you with high quality content. Therefore, it cannot be your inner thoughts that a writer is providing you. To verify whether your content is suitable for posting, you can use the chrome extension.

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January 12, 2022, 09:43:29 PM
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Thank you to every person that commented on this topic. Especially the ones that advised me to learn on my own and use grammarly. I love you all. I am already seeing the result this short time. What I learnt is that no one is supposed to post here in a haste. We have time to cross check our grammar hundred times before we post. For long article grammarly is our friend.

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January 12, 2022, 10:40:37 PM
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As long as you don't "copy-paste" other's work or "use it without permission" from the creators, it doesn't call by "plagiarism" or crime. What you do is "ask help to evaluate and correct your English article before you post it". Of course, there is nothing wrong with this, it is even a good way to ensure you wrote an article with proper English words/sentences. So, don't worry because you are not doing any mistake, dude!

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January 13, 2022, 08:38:09 PM
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In a real sense, we see English as an international language. There are many countries that do not prefer English. There are many who have knowledge but cannot express or implement it. So they should be given a chance. This problem will not be removed in one day. However, a poster should have the minimum quality of post or written ability.

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January 13, 2022, 10:22:16 PM
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A person's desire to improve themselves isn't a crime, but plagiarism is. However, the most important thing is to improve yourself without getting any assistance from others.
I see nothing wrong with seeking for editorial assistance from a professional or someone who is presumed to know better than yourself.  It's a way of not only improving yourself but ensuring that what you put out there isn't just garbage. People deserve to have quality stuffs especially when they pay for it or even visit your page. This is what a good editing can do for you. Mind you, editing isn't publishing. Once it gets published, it becomes the work of the first publisher and then you've got to go a whole length to prove its legitimacy as yours. So you've got to ensure whom is editing with you is professional enough not to publish your work before you or without your authorisation.
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