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February 19, 2022, 11:35:28 AM
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I don't like the idea of vaccine passports. It's like discriminating the unvax. I'm in favor of everything that's going to be favorable to the majority but this is going too much. They should still allow people even they don't have the vaccine to travel even without these vaccine passports. There are the tests and quarantine protocols that they can apply. Now, with the reopening of different countries for their entries. Those with vaccine passports are free to entry without those protocols, tests and quarantines. While the unvax, they're not allowed to travel for this measure. I hope with the reopening, more countries are going to be considerate as long as the health standards are applied. I'm for the equality and balance and I know that vaccines are helpful to avoid or make the infection less severe.

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February 19, 2022, 06:21:08 PM
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Now that omicron spreads like wildfire, most rational countries have shot down the vaccine passport because they recognize that even vaccinated individuals spread the virus, and for those unvaccinated, natural immunity provides just as much protection, if not more.

More variants would keep emerging due to mutations. Then they would develop another boaster dose or a new vaccine.
Very soon we wouldn't  need vaccine passports, the vaccination needle scars would be our pass.
If more variants will keep happening because of mutations, it means there's some human error in the vaccine or the boaster in the first place and if the vaccine or the boaster was indeed the solution to covid-19/omicron there's no reason for the vaccinated people to be afraid of the unvaxxed.
One thing I know is that there's more to this virus issue than we think and I don't trust the government about this issue.

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February 19, 2022, 07:27:59 PM
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Now that omicron spreads like wildfire, most rational countries have shot down the vaccine passport because they recognize that even vaccinated individuals spread the virus, and for those unvaccinated, natural immunity provides just as much protection, if not more.

More variants would keep emerging due to mutations. Then they would develop another boaster dose or a new vaccine.
Very soon we wouldn't  need vaccine passports, the vaccination needle scars would be our pass.
If more variants will keep happening because of mutations, it means there's some human error in the vaccine or the boaster in the first place and if the vaccine or the boaster was indeed the solution to covid-19/omicron there's no reason for the vaccinated people to be afraid of the unvaxxed.
One thing I know is that there's more to this virus issue than we think and I don't trust the government about this issue.
You're wrong on this one, mutations are a process of viruses, they mutate in order to adapt to their surroundings, mutations cause viruses to better evade our immune system, treatments and even vaccines. Generally speaking, mutations help viruses survive, by acquiring traits that will assist them in their survival.

It's a normal process, let me remind you that the influenza virus, specifically the H1N1, which caused the Spanish Flu, still exists, due to mutations, introducing a new flu vaccine every year in order to cover such mutations.

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February 20, 2022, 02:00:21 PM
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If more variants will keep happening because of mutations, it means there's some human error in the vaccine or the boaster in the first place
As Ultegra134 said, this is not correct. Mutations always occur in any living thing, it's a result of copying errors during cell replication. Mutations can help the organism to survive, or hinder it, or neither. If a mutation helps the organism, then this causes the mutation to survive and pass to future generations - this is the 'natural selection' element of evolution.
Vaccines can't stop mutation, nor are they intended to. But vaccines do reduce the amount of mutation in the sense that they reduce the amount of virus in circulation, and so they reduce the amount of cell replication in total.


if the vaccine or the boaster was indeed the solution to covid-19/omicron there's no reason for the vaccinated people to be afraid of the unvaxxed.
Vaccinated people aren't scared of the unvaxxed. The antipathy stems more from the unvaxxed appearing to have a very low level of empathy, because they are willing to spread the virus and infect others. I've compared it to drink-driving before, and I think the comparison is valid.







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February 20, 2022, 04:52:46 PM
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If more variants will keep happening because of mutations, it means there's some human error in the vaccine or the boaster in the first place
As Ultegra134 said, this is not correct. Mutations always occur in any living thing, it's a result of copying errors during cell replication. Mutations can help the organism to survive, or hinder it, or neither. If a mutation helps the organism, then this causes the mutation to survive and pass to future generations - this is the 'natural selection' element of evolution.
Vaccines can't stop mutation, nor are they intended to. But vaccines do reduce the amount of mutation in the sense that they reduce the amount of virus in circulation, and so they reduce the amount of cell replication in total.


if the vaccine or the boaster was indeed the solution to covid-19/omicron there's no reason for the vaccinated people to be afraid of the unvaxxed.
Vaccinated people aren't scared of the unvaxxed. The antipathy stems more from the unvaxxed appearing to have a very low level of empathy, because they are willing to spread the virus and infect others. I've compared it to drink-driving before, and I think the comparison is valid.



The only thing spreading around here is your lies.

Over 200 studies proof there is no such thing as a contagious virus.
https://lordchewy.medium.com/exposing-the-contagion-myth-bf47cf0e3aee



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February 20, 2022, 06:01:25 PM
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If more variants will keep happening because of mutations, it means there's some human error in the vaccine or the boaster in the first place
As Ultegra134 said, this is not correct. Mutations always occur in any living thing, it's a result of copying errors during cell replication. Mutations can help the organism to survive, or hinder it, or neither. If a mutation helps the organism, then this causes the mutation to survive and pass to future generations - this is the 'natural selection' element of evolution.
Vaccines can't stop mutation, nor are they intended to. But vaccines do reduce the amount of mutation in the sense that they reduce the amount of virus in circulation, and so they reduce the amount of cell replication in total.


if the vaccine or the boaster was indeed the solution to covid-19/omicron there's no reason for the vaccinated people to be afraid of the unvaxxed.
Vaccinated people aren't scared of the unvaxxed. The antipathy stems more from the unvaxxed appearing to have a very low level of empathy, because they are willing to spread the virus and infect others. I've compared it to drink-driving before, and I think the comparison is valid.



The only thing spreading around here is your lies.

Over 200 studies proof there is no such thing as a contagious virus.
https://lordchewy.medium.com/exposing-the-contagion-myth-bf47cf0e3aee



You never cease to amaze me, once again, as I've mentioned numerous times, you're posting an irrelevant article, from some random website which doesn't even function properly, which you didn't even bother to summarize yourself and present your arguments. What's the point of this article? You're not even bothering explaining yourself, why am I supposed to read an article, claiming that the Influenza virus doesn't exist, and that the Spanish Flu pandemic was just another hoax. It's ridiculous.

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