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March 30, 2022, 07:18:14 PM
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Hey guys,

I have found my wallet.dat file from 2016 on old drive and I wanted to claim bitcoin cash and eCash from it. (I already moved bitcoin before forks)

I installed a bitcoinABC client and downloaded whole blockchain data, it was showing my balance correctly and I sent it to another eCash wallet but transaction never gets confirmed! I waited a month and transaction haven't role back! also when I installed a BitcoinCashNode, I couldn't see my balance there and wanted to know that what happened to my assets. right now, both BitcoinCashNode and BitcoinABC show my balance 0 and doesn't show the sent transaction!

do you think where my crypto is?
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March 30, 2022, 07:58:34 PM
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Maybe try to export your private key and use https://electroncash.org/

But, first at all, see that topic:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2836875.0

And then do it yourself or contact author for his help.
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March 30, 2022, 08:53:17 PM
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You should probably move (lower-left) this topic to an altcoin board.

My guess: you're mixing up chains. Can you share the address you started with? That should make it possible to find what happened exactly on Blockchair.com or another block explorer.

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March 31, 2022, 01:58:28 AM
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Hey guys,

I have found my wallet.dat file from 2016 on old drive and I wanted to claim bitcoin cash and eCash from it. (I already moved bitcoin before forks)

I installed a bitcoinABC client and downloaded whole blockchain data, it was showing my balance correctly and I sent it to another eCash wallet but transaction never gets confirmed! I waited a month and transaction haven't role back! also when I installed a BitcoinCashNode, I couldn't see my balance there and wanted to know that what happened to my assets. right now, both BitcoinCashNode and BitcoinABC show my balance 0 and doesn't show the sent transaction!

do you think where my crypto is?

Which wallet are you using? This might be a wallet problem.

I would use Coinomi. I know it is a closed source wallet and there were problems in the past, but you have a lot of forks and this wallet will easily get all of them for you. BCH, BCHA, BSV, BTG, etc etc... coinomi supports most of them and it is safe to just receive coins and send straight away.

You need to be careful and split your coins. There is a nice guide here:

https://coinomi.freshdesk.com/support/solutions/articles/29000026274

Basically, whatever you send on BCH chain will also happen on  BSV chain. You need to receive some BCH before transferring them, otherwise your coins won't split.
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-Receive a new deposit into your BCH wallet of BCH that is already split. Any value will work, however small. The easiest way is to receive BCH from an exchange. If you are sweeping unsplit BCH/BSV from a paper wallet, you must still receive split BCH from somewhere else before moving to step 2.
-After transaction from (1) is confirmed, open the BCH wallet and copy your current BCH "receive" address
-On that same BCH wallet, go to the "send" section and send your full BCH balance to the address copied above.
-Done. This should be enough for your coins to be split. This process only has to be done once. After your coins are split, they are split forever, and further deposits you receive will also most likely already be split.

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March 31, 2022, 07:05:00 AM
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This topic shouldn't be here.

But to answer your question here's my suggestion if you have got a private key you can use it to export into another wallet and maybe this will help you.
https://www.bitcoinabc.org/electrum/

Make sure that the node is properly connected to the BCH network so that it will sync in and show the real balance and also, make sure that you've downloaded the latest version.

I would use Coinomi. I know it is a closed source wallet and there were problems in the past, but you have a lot of forks and this wallet will easily get all of them for you. BCH, BCHA, BSV, BTG, etc etc... coinomi supports most of them and it is safe to just receive coins and send straight away.

You need to be careful and split your coins. There is a nice guide here:

https://coinomi.freshdesk.com/support/solutions/articles/29000026274
I don't know if this Coinomi wallet is good to recommend if you have concerns about fees, I hate using this wallet because of its very high fees especially swapping coins.  Op can split the BCH and eCash using Electrum ABC and Electron Cash, for further information see this, Splitting eCash and BCH coins using Electrum ABC and Electron Cash.

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March 31, 2022, 07:07:20 AM
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I have found my wallet.dat file from 2016 on old drive and I wanted to claim bitcoin cash and eCash from it. (I already moved bitcoin before forks)
Since you've posted this in Bitcoin Techinical support, I assume that the wallet.dat is from Bitcoin Core.
Then, you said that you "already moved them before the fork" so there is no BCH to claim from that wallet.

If there's no bitcoin in that wallet before the fork then there's no UTXO that will be carried over to the other chain.

I installed a bitcoinABC client and downloaded whole blockchain data, it was showing my balance correctly and I sent it to another eCash wallet but transaction never gets confirmed! I waited a month and transaction haven't role back! also when I installed a BitcoinCashNode, I couldn't see my balance there and wanted to know that what happened to my assets. right now, both BitcoinCashNode and BitcoinABC show my balance 0 and doesn't show the sent transaction!
My guess is the client wasn't fully synced when you tried to send funds, it shown a balance based from its current height
but when it caught up to the tip, it sync past the point when you spent the Bitcoins which is before the fork so your balance is actually 0

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April 01, 2022, 10:15:23 AM
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Maybe try to export your private key and use https://electroncash.org/

But, first at all, see that topic:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2836875.0

And then do it yourself or contact author for his help.

It is not a HD wallet, I created this wallet in 2012 and there are thousands of addresses , so wallet.dat file has huge size with many private keys.
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April 01, 2022, 10:28:02 AM
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I have found my wallet.dat file from 2016 on old drive and I wanted to claim bitcoin cash and eCash from it. (I already moved bitcoin before forks)
Since you've posted this in Bitcoin Techinical support, I assume that the wallet.dat is from Bitcoin Core.
Then, you said that you "already moved them before the fork" so there is no BCH to claim from that wallet.

If there's no bitcoin in that wallet before the fork then there's no UTXO that will be carried over to the other chain.

I installed a bitcoinABC client and downloaded whole blockchain data, it was showing my balance correctly and I sent it to another eCash wallet but transaction never gets confirmed! I waited a month and transaction haven't role back! also when I installed a BitcoinCashNode, I couldn't see my balance there and wanted to know that what happened to my assets. right now, both BitcoinCashNode and BitcoinABC show my balance 0 and doesn't show the sent transaction!
My guess is the client wasn't fully synced when you tried to send funds, it shown a balance based from its current height
but when it caught up to the tip, it sync past the point when you spent the Bitcoins which is before the fork so your balance is actually 0

It is bitcoin core wallet but I transferred bitcoins after fork. at the time of fork, I had balance! also when I synced with bitcoin ABC my wallet balance was correct (and node was fully synced) and after sending it to another eCash wallet, the transaction didn't confirm and balance is gone!
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April 01, 2022, 11:28:36 AM
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the transaction didn't confirm and balance is gone!
To be able to help you:
Can you share the address you started with?
If you don't want to share it publicly a PM is fine too.

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