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June 12, 2023, 10:46:32 AM |
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Your odds?? I don't get... Is there something I'm missing?? Can I get that straight... Is anyone supposed to debate/wager who's gonna buy the club?? Are there such option??... Those Arabians are fuckin' rich and the value of Thier currency is worth more than ours - atleast... It's usually for anyone that places the higher bid, uuhhh, but sometimes there are usually some conditions anyways - since some billionaires don't even know how to finance and manage a club, which seems to be the most important part of the team's success... So personally, I Feel the dude from Qatar will go with it.
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but if it is all about the money, then, why this Qatari came to up until 5th bid last week and still no clear answer if he will ever get this team? though we don't know if it is on the works already. yes, i can agree the Qataris have the highest bid because they can afford it. but we don't know all the reasons why it is taking so long for this negotiation. there's no news yet on who is the final name that will take over on this team? try searching over the net though. So far, the two main candidates for the new Manchester United boss have remained unchanged, namely Sir Jim Ratcliffe and Sheikh Jassim bin Hamad Al Thani. However, negotiations that have been going on for months reportedly have not reached a meeting point, because the offers from the two figures have not reached what the Glazer family wants. And maybe if it is in accordance with the agreement of both parties, especially the Glazer family, it will definitely be announced. The glaziers are greedy lads and barely have the interest of the club in mind, Manchester United is valued at about £4.5billion and they're requesting for roughly £6billion from this bidders, whereas Sir Jim have offered to pay £5billion and is willing to take 51% shares while Sheikh offered to pay £5.8billion improving his previous bid of 5.5billion and have full ownership of the club. Now why not name the preferred bidder or sale to the highest, rather than trying to milk out more money from them, knowing how bad it would affect the forth coming transfer window and causing panic buys if they finally decide to sell.
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June 12, 2023, 11:11:33 AM |
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It will definitely be the survival of the highest bidder, they both have enough enough, it now depends on the connections they have and ties they have already built with past relationships with thise in charge, also how they can maneuver their way to acquire the purchase of this football club, they will make it more of a gambling thing, those that bids for either the Qatar candidate or the British candidate to gamble or vote and also consider their various offers.
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June 12, 2023, 12:27:41 PM |
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My odds are that Sheikh would win the bid and take fully control of Manchester United.
The sheikh has a good chance to win the bid, but it is possible that it will not be to take full control of the club but maybe a buy in as an investor in the club and have a huge stake in Manchester United. The current owners are hoping to be able to secure this of deal, so that they won't just leave the club. This is a possible end to the long going bargain and speculations about the new ownership, the kind of end that the glazers would want, but it is also likely that it may not go that way, they may be forced into selling the club entirely.
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June 12, 2023, 12:38:47 PM |
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It will definitely be the survival of the highest bidder, they both have enough enough, it now depends on the connections they have and ties they have already built with past relationships with thise in charge, also how they can maneuver their way to acquire the purchase of this football club, they will make it more of a gambling thing, those that bids for either the Qatar candidate or the British candidate to gamble or vote and also consider their various offers.
Glazer may try to determine which buyer that will able to take MU. As far as i know that if sheikh Jassim is willing to take 100% of manchester united. I will prefer to see jassim to take manchester united rather than its competitior. Im sure that with jassim owned manchester united and this will make MU gets another great improvements. MU will able to compete with manchester city. MU was not able to catch manchester city caused by it lacks of quality. I think that with jassim as the new owner will able to increase the performance from manchester united a lot. I'll vote for jassim in this battle. There are so many fake news in twitter.
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June 12, 2023, 12:40:24 PM |
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Arab money is not "taking over" England, we need to set that straight, City and Newcastle are the only rich clubs that are spending crazy amount of money that came from Arabic owners, and to be fair City owner doesn't really show up that much, UCL final was like his second game he watched if I am not wrong, so it is not really taking over.
I feel like United being owned by Qatar wouldn't be all that weird, even would be more fun to see United vs City fighting on whole another purpose as well, and would make it fine. But, I am not against anyone who would be willing to spend a lot of money on the club, it is a historically amazing club that has been managed by a terribly cheap owners and need a new owner without a doubt, someone that would be willing to spend money on it is enough.
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June 12, 2023, 01:10:47 PM |
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Arab money is not "taking over" England, we need to set that straight, City and Newcastle are the only rich clubs that are spending crazy amount of money that came from Arabic owners, and to be fair City owner doesn't really show up that much, UCL final was like his second game he watched if I am not wrong, so it is not really taking over.
I feel like United being owned by Qatar wouldn't be all that weird, even would be more fun to see United vs City fighting on whole another purpose as well, and would make it fine. But, I am not against anyone who would be willing to spend a lot of money on the club, it is a historically amazing club that has been managed by a terribly cheap owners and need a new owner without a doubt, someone that would be willing to spend money on it is enough.
But that is like building a super league in a domestic league. You see how exciting Ligue 1 is? It's totally irrelevant to watch it unless PSG stops playing seriously and someone else has a chance. Everything starts somewhere. When you now say that it is not all that bad and only two clubs are owned by Arabs, I have to say that this is just the beginning. A take over doesn't have to happen over night. It happens insidiously because otherwise the resistance would be too strong.
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June 12, 2023, 01:27:05 PM |
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This is one deal that started in November last year and has lingered up to this very moment. Whenever we think the Glazers are going to accept a particular bid, they kept stalling probably to give rooms for other incoming offers or for the two active bidders to up their offers. From where I'm from, we have a proverb is my native dialect which simply means "The person holding the yam, is the one holding the knife". The ball is on the Glazer's court and at this point all we can do is to speculate or choose our preferred bidder based on sentiment.
Between Sheikh Jassim and Jim Ratcliffe's offer, I would go with the former because his offer looks more juicy to me. £5billion for the total ownership of Manchester United and £1billon investment fund. Jim Ratcliffe's offer gives the Glazer family the opportunity to still be in the club as a minority share holder which is something that is not welcomed by most Manchester United supporters. It is been reported that the Glazers is going to reveal their preferred bidder this week and I really do hope so, so that united can be active in the transfer market.
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It will definitely be the survival of the highest bidder, they both have enough enough, it now depends on the connections they have and ties they have already built with past relationships with thise in charge, also how they can maneuver their way to acquire the purchase of this football club, they will make it more of a gambling thing, those that bids for either the Qatar candidate or the British candidate to gamble or vote and also consider their various offers.
Glazer may try to determine which buyer that will able to take MU. As far as i know that if sheikh Jassim is willing to take 100% of manchester united. I will prefer to see jassim to take manchester united rather than its competitior. Im sure that with jassim owned manchester united and this will make MU gets another great improvements. MU will able to compete with manchester city. MU was not able to catch manchester city caused by it lacks of quality. I think that with jassim as the new owner will able to increase the performance from manchester united a lot. I'll vote for jassim in this battle. There are so many fake news in twitter. I also heard that Sheikh Jassim has made an offer worth more than £5 billion to Manchester United, Sheikh Jassim promises huge additions to transfers and infrastructure, and writes off any previous debts. Those things are enough for MU to go a long way. I don't know if this offer from the billionaire Qatari is accepted by the Glazer family, but I hope the sale goes quickly, I'm so fed up with the current MU.
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June 12, 2023, 01:54:42 PM |
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My odds are that Sheikh would win the bid and take fully control of Manchester United.
Have you seen the news about the new ownership of Man United. I think Man United had reasons to choose Ratcliffe over Sheikh, as the OP mentioned. The Glazer family has reportedly made a decision regarding the new owner of Manchester United. After a long and winding wait since last November 2022, it is reported that the Glazer brothers have chosen Sir Jim Ratcliffe as the new owner of MU next season.
Indeed Sheikh had a good offer for Man United, but Ratcliffe also did not lose, they were both included in the best offer, UK Investors vs. QATAR there are many other reasons that Ratcliffe could consider as the new owner of Man United, believe it or not. Let's see. Ratcliffe won the new owner, not Sheikh.
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I'm not a manchester united fan, but whoever will take over and become the owner of manchester united I think he can bring changes to manchester united also in the next season for the better, for example doing some shopping in the summer to strengthen their squad team and also overall remodel. I know that Manchester United will be a great club next season if the owner can later overhaul all the management and the Manchester United squad, of course the competition next season will be very fierce if you don't make changes early on you will not be able to compete with other clubs, especially in the EPL in Next season. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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June 12, 2023, 02:48:39 PM |
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Arab money is not "taking over" England, we need to set that straight, City and Newcastle are the only rich clubs that are spending crazy amount of money that came from Arabic owners, and to be fair City owner doesn't really show up that much, UCL final was like his second game he watched if I am not wrong, so it is not really taking over.
I feel like United being owned by Qatar wouldn't be all that weird, even would be more fun to see United vs City fighting on whole another purpose as well, and would make it fine. But, I am not against anyone who would be willing to spend a lot of money on the club, it is a historically amazing club that has been managed by a terribly cheap owners and need a new owner without a doubt, someone that would be willing to spend money on it is enough.
Yes and no at the same time, from one side, its a lot of arab money on Premier League but in the other side they have some other owners, like some USA big players, also in a minor stake Lebron James have some shares of Liverpool.
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June 12, 2023, 02:55:06 PM |
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As a Liverpool fan I hope not Qatar because it will make Man Utd much more powerful and they will be more dangerous. I suppose they spend a lot any way but I just fear them more with Qatar taking over. Even better would be the Glazers to stay though haha.
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Some reports deny the rumor if glazer has talked with khelaifi but khelaifi itself already told if glazer was asked him to told jassim to increase his bid. Manchester United's owners met with PSG president Nasser Al-Khelaifi to ask him to convince Sheikh Jassim to increase his bid to buy the club. The Glazers want £6bn and last week Sheikh Jassim submitted a fifth, improved bid, which is understood to be his final offering, totalling around £5bn. https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12899725/manchester-united-takeover-glazer-family-asked-psg-president-nasser-al-khelaifi-to-help-increase-sheikh-jassims-bidSheikh Jassim already sent 5 billion bid to the glazer but it seems like glazer will not accept it until it will be facing what already asked before which was around 6 billions. I think that jassim can do U turn if glazer will not accept jassim's offer until the deadline. I will prefer to see MU to be acquired by jassim rather than still owner by glazer family. It's pretty good to see that mansour to has a challenge from jassim as a new owner from manchester united. The clash between MU and M city gonna be the clash between 2 arabian billionaires.
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June 12, 2023, 11:19:22 PM |
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I also heard that Sheikh Jassim has made an offer worth more than £5 billion to Manchester United, Sheikh Jassim promises huge additions to transfers and infrastructure, and writes off any previous debts. Those things are enough for MU to go a long way. I don't know if this offer from the billionaire Qatari is accepted by the Glazer family, but I hope the sale goes quickly, I'm so fed up with the current MU.
True but glazer demanding jassim to increase his bid to close 6bn. Glazer shall aware if jassim can give up if glazer keeps pushing its buyer to buy the club as big as glazer wants. I don't even like to see that happens with manchester united. Manchester united will be facing summer transfer season as soon as possible. it's the time for the club to rebuild the team again. I hope glazer will make an announcement regarding the new owner from manchester united as soon as possible. Im feeling MU can be a better team under jassim.
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June 12, 2023, 11:27:23 PM |
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My odds are that Sheikh would win the bid and take fully control of Manchester United.
Have you seen the news about the new ownership of Man United. I think Man United had reasons to choose Ratcliffe over Sheikh, as the OP mentioned. The Glazer family has reportedly made a decision regarding the new owner of Manchester United. After a long and winding wait since last November 2022, it is reported that the Glazer brothers have chosen Sir Jim Ratcliffe as the new owner of MU next season.
Indeed Sheikh had a good offer for Man United, but Ratcliffe also did not lose, they were both included in the best offer, UK Investors vs. QATAR there are many other reasons that Ratcliffe could consider as the new owner of Man United, believe it or not. Let's see. Ratcliffe won the new owner, not Sheikh. Those are just rumours and speculations, nobody's won the bid yet, the whole United fans are stilling waiting on the glaziers to finalise the bid and name their preferred bid, well everyone have a right of choose but I'll rather preferred Sheikh to Sir Jim cause he has lots to offer to the club,moreover a good number of the fans want him as well. this is what i was thinking as there is no confirmation yet about the new owner/s. i don't know where it is reported that they have chosen sir ratcliffe over the qatari sheikh. care to share the link if there's decision already? i am also following the news on this one as the qatari is offering billion of dollars here. so will money decide the new owner for this team? it has been said that the qatari had his final offer last june 9. so they are taking this long to disclose to public about the finality of their decision.
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June 12, 2023, 11:58:41 PM |
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My odds are that Sheikh would win the bid and take fully control of Manchester United.
Have you seen the news about the new ownership of Man United. I think Man United had reasons to choose Ratcliffe over Sheikh, as the OP mentioned. The Glazer family has reportedly made a decision regarding the new owner of Manchester United. After a long and winding wait since last November 2022, it is reported that the Glazer brothers have chosen Sir Jim Ratcliffe as the new owner of MU next season.
Indeed Sheikh had a good offer for Man United, but Ratcliffe also did not lose, they were both included in the best offer, UK Investors vs. QATAR there are many other reasons that Ratcliffe could consider as the new owner of Man United, believe it or not. Let's see. Ratcliffe won the new owner, not Sheikh. Those are just rumours and speculations, nobody's won the bid yet, the whole United fans are stilling waiting on the glaziers to finalise the bid and name their preferred bid, well everyone have a right of choose but I'll rather preferred Sheikh to Sir Jim cause he has lots to offer to the club,moreover a good number of the fans want him as well. i'm expecting to see another arab man in the premier league, they managed to get a lot of things in britain football, and most magazines are saying that the Qtari banker is most likely the one who's gonna get it, it won't be surprising to me.
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June 13, 2023, 12:46:31 PM |
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With the sale of Manchester United imminent, who do you think would be the preferred bidder between, British billionaire Sir Jim Ratcliffe and Qatar billionaire Sheikh Jassim?
My odds are that Sheikh would win the bid and take fully control of Manchester United.
However i feel the glaziers are reluctant to sell, due to the prolonged rounds of bidding and they're doing so to avoid much spending in the upcoming transfer window.
I am damn sure that it would be someone who is willing to spend money. That's the only thing I want to see as well, football may have become a lot more money oriented but there is nothing to be earned by denying that as a fact and just keep on trying to do the old ways, it is not going to work and United will get worse and worse if Glazer family barely spends a dime, they spend as much as they can get debt for and that's not really the way to grow. If someone who is super rich ends up buying the club and then ends up spending 100+ million a year for many years, like consistently do that, then we are going to see the team slowly get amazing, sure it may not be great in a second, but they could become great on the long run.
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June 13, 2023, 12:55:03 PM |
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With the sale of Manchester United imminent, who do you think would be the preferred bidder between, British billionaire Sir Jim Ratcliffe and Qatar billionaire Sheikh Jassim?
My odds are that Sheikh would win the bid and take fully control of Manchester United.
However i feel the glaziers are reluctant to sell, due to the prolonged rounds of bidding and they're doing so to avoid much spending in the upcoming transfer window.
It looks like Qatari billionaire Sheikh Jassim will win the bid and take full control of Manchester United. He is a billionaire who could have brought Manchester United to become a great team because of the money he has. That way there will be improvements for the players by making some better player transfers. My hope is that this really happens and can make Manchester United like it used to be where can have strengths and a team that other teams fear.
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June 13, 2023, 02:05:51 PM |
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I also heard that Sheikh Jassim has made an offer worth more than £5 billion to Manchester United, Sheikh Jassim promises huge additions to transfers and infrastructure, and writes off any previous debts. Those things are enough for MU to go a long way. I don't know if this offer from the billionaire Qatari is accepted by the Glazer family, but I hope the sale goes quickly, I'm so fed up with the current MU.
True but glazer demanding jassim to increase his bid to close 6bn. Glazer shall aware if jassim can give up if glazer keeps pushing its buyer to buy the club as big as glazer wants. I don't even like to see that happens with manchester united. Manchester united will be facing summer transfer season as soon as possible. it's the time for the club to rebuild the team again. I hope glazer will make an announcement regarding the new owner from manchester united as soon as possible. Im feeling MU can be a better team under jassim. But perhaps the Glazers do not want to sell MU white, they plan to sell a large amount of shares and control to Sir Jim Ratcliffe rather than transfer the whole club to Qatar, Sir Jim Ratcliffe is a candidate with many advantages. In addition to buying back most of the shares of the team, the British billionaire also allowed the Glazer family to keep a few shares of MU. However, instead of paying quickly like Sheikh Jassim, Sir Jim Ratcliffe took a long time to complete the deal. It seems that MU fans don't care who Ratcliffe or Sheikh Jassim is, they just want to leave the Glazer house as soon as possible. As he said, the Glazer family is not easy to sell MU if Jassim does not increase the price to more than 6 billion.
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I am trying to find out the progress of the continuation of the 5th offer from Sheikh Jassim. but I did not find any information, when referring to journalist Fabrizio Romano, except for his last tweet saying Qatar is offering its last bits.
Rumor has it, recently the Qatari newspaper, Al Watan Qatar has published a report that Sheikh Jassim managed to acquire Manchester United from the Glazer family. According to the Qatari media, an official announcement will be made soon. furthermore, the editorial director of Watan Qatar Fahed Al Emadi, has supported this claim. he agreed that Sheikh Jassim's offer to buy Manchester United was successful. however, it should be noted that Al Watan does not make an exclusive claim on this news. While there has been no official statement on the status of Manchester United's takeover, the claims linked by Qatari media suggest there could be a positive outcome for Sheikh Jassim. So, let's wait and see if this news or rumor is true.
If yes, I would not be surprised at all. because apparently, Sheikh Jassim is desperate to acquire The Red Devils. even. he could have gone through political diplomacy to get United. because, Qatar has an offer that is quite difficult to refuse in the winter. nothing else, but we wait for the continuation and how Manchester United will become an international club. but if so, if MU changes ownership. I am quite sure, if Ten Hag will be given large funds to bring in the players he wants to bring to Old Trafford. that way, United can compete with their city rivals.
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