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Question: Who wins the rematch?
A. Devin Haney Decision
B. Devin Haney KO/TKO
C. George Kambosos Decision
D. George Kambosos KO/TKO
E. Draw

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October 20, 2022, 07:40:33 AM
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For those who are interested on the PPV numbers, as reported:

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Nielsen Media Research revealed that their second 135-pound championship match drew an average audience of 935,000. Viewership peaked at 970,000 for a main event that ended approximately five minutes before Deontay Wilder’s first-round knockout of Robert Helenius began on FOX Sports Pay-Per-View.

However, it  is down as compared to their last fight:

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The first bout between Haney (29-0, 15 KOs) and Kambosos (20-2, 10 KOs) drew an average audience of 1,322,000 and a peak audience of 1,351,000 four months ago.

https://www.boxingscene.com/haney-kambosos-rematch-watched-by-an-average-935000-viewers-on-espn--169844

But still though, I think the numbers are good and for sure the promoters are very happy to see this big numbers assuming that the fight happened in Australia and probably most buys are coming from the Aussies themselves.

Thanks for the figures mate. But this also means the fight is not on PPV since Nielsen Media could track it. The figures aren't bad after all considering how one-sided and I even felt it was a boring fight. And most of us already knew the results before this fight happened.

That Wilder PPV presented by PBC on FOX was crap. It was entertaining after Wilder and Plant delivered devastating KOs but they were fighting low-ranked opponents unlike Haney-Kambosos and the Shields-Marshall+Baumgardner+Mayer show. There's a good reason why PBC waited for Haney and Kambosos to finish before it started because they simply cannot compete.

But the best event of that weekend was the women's double unification fights between Shields-Marshall and Baumgardner-Mayer. I'm glad more people watched the title fights rather than the cherry-picked PPV.

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October 20, 2022, 12:59:45 PM
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For Kambosos, it will be a difficult road for him, losing back to back and the best thing is to go up in weight. But then again, he doesn't have any power to be honest, I don't know how he knock down Teo in their fight, maybe Lopez underestimated him.

He should move if he can't make the weight. I remember during the first fight, he was off in the first try. Although me made the weight in the second fight, he seems to be very dry and lean.

That might be his next move because he can't really defeat Haney or at least give him a hard time. That way, he won't be having some struggles in his weight if he indeed have some issues woth it and it's no use in staying the same division if he can't be a star.

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October 20, 2022, 01:22:52 PM
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For Kambosos, it will be a difficult road for him, losing back to back and the best thing is to go up in weight. But then again, he doesn't have any power to be honest, I don't know how he knock down Teo in their fight, maybe Lopez underestimated him.

He should move if he can't make the weight. I remember during the first fight, he was off in the first try. Although me made the weight in the second fight, he seems to be very dry and lean.

That might be his next move because he can't really defeat Haney or at least give him a hard time. That way, he won't be having some struggles in his weight if he indeed have some issues woth it and it's no use in staying the same division if he can't be a star.

Kambosos' problem is Haney himself. Kambosos was undefeated before confronted with Haney's boxing strategies. Haney seemed to be Kambosos' kryptonite. Kambosos was strong. He even defeated Teofimo Lopez. It's just that boxers have different strategies. Haney was more like Mayweather. And that's something Kambosos' found hard to solve. He was a puzzle Kambosos really failed to solve. He doesn't necessarily have to go up in weight though.
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October 20, 2022, 01:27:59 PM
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For Kambosos, it will be a difficult road for him, losing back to back and the best thing is to go up in weight. But then again, he doesn't have any power to be honest, I don't know how he knock down Teo in their fight, maybe Lopez underestimated him.

He should move if he can't make the weight. I remember during the first fight, he was off in the first try. Although me made the weight in the second fight, he seems to be very dry and lean.

That might be his next move because he can't really defeat Haney or at least give him a hard time. That way, he won't be having some struggles in his weight if he indeed have some issues woth it and it's no use in staying the same division if he can't be a star.

Kambosos' problem is Haney himself. Kambosos was undefeated before confronted with Haney's boxing strategies. Haney seemed to be Kambosos' kryptonite. Kambosos was strong. He even defeated Teofimo Lopez. It's just that boxers have different strategies. Haney was more like Mayweather. And that's something Kambosos' found hard to solve. He was a puzzle Kambosos really failed to solve. He doesn't necessarily have to go up in weight though.

Those 2 losses from Haney is just the beginning, he only had 20 fights, and those 2 losses of him will make his opponent so confident in betting on him. usually, when a fighter had losses already, he is not the same anymore, just like what happened to Bronner, he was once undefeated but when he experience a lose, that continues to happen until he losses his career.
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October 22, 2022, 05:59:44 PM
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For Kambosos, it will be a difficult road for him, losing back to back and the best thing is to go up in weight. But then again, he doesn't have any power to be honest, I don't know how he knock down Teo in their fight, maybe Lopez underestimated him.

He should move if he can't make the weight. I remember during the first fight, he was off in the first try. Although me made the weight in the second fight, he seems to be very dry and lean.

That might be his next move because he can't really defeat Haney or at least give him a hard time. That way, he won't be having some struggles in his weight if he indeed have some issues woth it and it's no use in staying the same division if he can't be a star.

Kambosos' problem is Haney himself. Kambosos was undefeated before confronted with Haney's boxing strategies. Haney seemed to be Kambosos' kryptonite. Kambosos was strong. He even defeated Teofimo Lopez. It's just that boxers have different strategies. Haney was more like Mayweather. And that's something Kambosos' found hard to solve. He was a puzzle Kambosos really failed to solve. He doesn't necessarily have to go up in weight though.

Not seemed because Haney is really is Kambosos kryptonite, he can't really give Haney some struggles that will somehow make the fight even or fair. In front of Haney, he is looks like an amateur who doesn't really know what to do. Haney is just on a different level now, he is not a knockout specialist but I find him more of a technical specialist.

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October 22, 2022, 10:38:56 PM
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For Kambosos, it will be a difficult road for him, losing back to back and the best thing is to go up in weight. But then again, he doesn't have any power to be honest,

Moving up will be disastrous for Kambosos because of the reason you stated, he might consider moving down if his weight can support it since I can't find any reason why he has to move up considering that he is fine getting to the weight limit of his current division.

I don't know how he knock down Teo in their fight, maybe Lopez underestimated him.

Kambosos just caught Teo at the right time. It is true that Lopez probably underestimated him but somehow I think there is the strength behind Kambosos punches, it is that when it comes to Haney, Kambosos puncing power is decreased by Haney defensive style.

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October 22, 2022, 11:50:09 PM
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For those who are interested on the PPV numbers, as reported:

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Nielsen Media Research revealed that their second 135-pound championship match drew an average audience of 935,000. Viewership peaked at 970,000 for a main event that ended approximately five minutes before Deontay Wilder’s first-round knockout of Robert Helenius began on FOX Sports Pay-Per-View.

However, it  is down as compared to their last fight:

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The first bout between Haney (29-0, 15 KOs) and Kambosos (20-2, 10 KOs) drew an average audience of 1,322,000 and a peak audience of 1,351,000 four months ago.

https://www.boxingscene.com/haney-kambosos-rematch-watched-by-an-average-935000-viewers-on-espn--169844

But still though, I think the numbers are good and for sure the promoters are very happy to see this big numbers assuming that the fight happened in Australia and probably most buys are coming from the Aussies themselves.

Thanks for the figures mate. But this also means the fight is not on PPV since Nielsen Media could track it. The figures aren't bad after all considering how one-sided and I even felt it was a boring fight. And most of us already knew the results before this fight happened.

That Wilder PPV presented by PBC on FOX was crap. It was entertaining after Wilder and Plant delivered devastating KOs but they were fighting low-ranked opponents unlike Haney-Kambosos and the Shields-Marshall+Baumgardner+Mayer show. There's a good reason why PBC waited for Haney and Kambosos to finish before it started because they simply cannot compete.

But the best event of that weekend was the women's double unification fights between Shields-Marshall and Baumgardner-Mayer. I'm glad more people watched the title fights rather than the cherry-picked PPV.


Yep, not bad at all as there are a lot of fights as well in that weekend, so there is competition as well for us boxing fans as to what fights we wanted to see.

And I read that the Haney's are still giving props for the Victorian government in allowing them to travel and fight in Australia. I guess if we will see Australian champions in the future, this could be a similar trend as trend. US fighters travel to Australia and fight and maybe have the same experience as the Haney's.

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October 23, 2022, 02:14:25 PM
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I think he is now ready to fight a real champion as he already have two tune up fights where he won. Though it's a real fight but we know his opponents are not on his level, his promoter has to give him a chance to fight a better challenge, those two names that are mentioned are sure a great challenge for him.
And if I remember it right, Garcia is really aiming for Davis. He keeps on sending an indirect message using his social media account, it will be decided once both fighters are inside the ring. I like to see if how Garcia will throw solid combinations in case he creates an opening. The kid has a killing KO punch, but on the other hand, we are talking about Davis here who also has that same or can say much upper level.

Not to go far with my speculation, Haney and Kambosos will be waiting for whoever wins this upcoming fight. He will be the one that will wait for any challenger that will ask for his belt.


I have also thought and I have had that in my head, if things happen between García and Davis things can go in another direction, and although many want the meeting between Haney and Kambosos, with what has happened I have already begun to doubt I don't know if it's because they lack more interest from the fans that I know about this fight or it's because they already determined that it won't be such an exciting or spectacular fight, I think those things also influence, if there is something that is very good for sponsors is money, and it seems that the business model for this fight may not be that profitable, so this can influence.

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October 23, 2022, 05:21:43 PM
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For Kambosos, it will be a difficult road for him, losing back to back and the best thing is to go up in weight. But then again, he doesn't have any power to be honest, I don't know how he knock down Teo in their fight, maybe Lopez underestimated him.

He should move if he can't make the weight. I remember during the first fight, he was off in the first try. Although me made the weight in the second fight, he seems to be very dry and lean.

That might be his next move because he can't really defeat Haney or at least give him a hard time. That way, he won't be having some struggles in his weight if he indeed have some issues woth it and it's no use in staying the same division if he can't be a star.

Kambosos' problem is Haney himself. Kambosos was undefeated before confronted with Haney's boxing strategies. Haney seemed to be Kambosos' kryptonite. Kambosos was strong. He even defeated Teofimo Lopez. It's just that boxers have different strategies. Haney was more like Mayweather. And that's something Kambosos' found hard to solve. He was a puzzle Kambosos really failed to solve. He doesn't necessarily have to go up in weight though.

Those 2 losses from Haney is just the beginning, he only had 20 fights, and those 2 losses of him will make his opponent so confident in betting on him. usually, when a fighter had losses already, he is not the same anymore, just like what happened to Bronner, he was once undefeated but when he experience a lose, that continues to happen until he losses his career.

It could be just I think Kambosos will have to make a difficult decision to whether go up in weight or stay in this division and continue to campaign and fought some notable fighters again.

Broner case is different though because he is so arrogant and brandish that's why his mentality went down after he lost to Maidana and up to know he thinks he won the fight against Manny Pacquiao. LOL.

Kambosos should fight a boxer next that he can beat and bring back his confidence.

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