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December 25, 2022, 04:41:04 PM
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The only problem is that the use of materials that affect the environment such as plastic continues to increase, no matter how much we recycle, reduce and reuse if companies continue to produce heavy plastic ware, it will definitely be useless . But if all the different countries talk about this problem, it can definitely be solved, especially if the ban on anything that damages the nature can be enacted.

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December 26, 2022, 09:19:24 PM
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The only problem is that the use of materials that affect the environment such as plastic continues to increase, no matter how much we recycle, reduce and reuse if companies continue to produce heavy plastic ware, it will definitely be useless . But if all the different countries talk about this problem, it can definitely be solved, especially if the ban on anything that damages the nature can be enacted.

In my opinion, it is not necessary to introduce strict bans on the production of plastic products.

How can we save our planet from harmful plastic pollution?

This question can be answered differently.  You can breed special bacteria that will feed on plastic.  These bacteria can be kept in special containers and plastic trash can be periodically loaded into these containers.  

This will make it possible to effectively dispose of harmful plastic, which practically does not decompose into the simplest elements and harms the ecology of our planet.

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December 27, 2022, 10:28:23 AM
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my problem with the END the Era of hydrocarbons.
plastics. everyone seems to forget that part.
your phone... your clothes. your car. your medical equipment.. your furniture...your computers...LED diodes... all your equipment has plastic. ALL of it is Hydrocarbons. the lists while Not endless is freaking huge and we have ZERO replacements for hydrocarbons in 99% of it.
the future of oil is still quite firm.

The only problem is that the use of materials that affect the environment such as plastic continues to increase, no matter how much we recycle, reduce and reuse if companies continue to produce heavy plastic ware, it will definitely be useless . But if all the different countries talk about this problem, it can definitely be solved, especially if the ban on anything that damages the nature can be enacted.


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Really - the negative impact of the massive use of plastic, especially for domestic purposes. And most likely, alternative solutions will be found. What will it be ? It can be a replacement from natural components, such as derivatives of flora. Or materials that, though mostly composed of hydrocarbons, are easily recyclable or degradable. The insane use of plastic is a really huge problem. At home, we probably refused by 95%, all bags are now either made of paper or starch-based materials (tactilely a very pleasant replacement for household plastic bags), disposable tableware - paper or recycling, and so on. Plastic bottles are perhaps the biggest problem. We try to buy in glass, and we collect plastic ones separately and give them for recycling.

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December 27, 2022, 05:20:44 PM
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The energy involved in nuclear fusion is very high and the ability to reproduce same in a controlled experiment consistently is a major issue that has to be overcomed also it's costly.... I also heard that somewhere in the Philippines that there's a research that maelworms can feed on styrofoam and complex polystyrene so if more investment is done we can tackle the menace of the seemingly non biodegradable waste while we await a perfect application of nuclear fusion....
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December 28, 2022, 11:02:05 AM
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Not all physicists support the claim that this scientific breakthrough is something special that could change our world. More precisely, he can, but perhaps not for the better. Experts believe that this achievement of American physicists is too insignificant, and besides, it was done too late. And this discovery could lead to even more deadly nuclear weapons. Indeed, in a similar reactor, where American scientists conducted their experiment, neutrons can be produced that can be used to create nuclear explosive elements such as plutonium-239, uranium-235 and uranium-233. That is, a thermonuclear reactor can be used to produce raw materials for nuclear bombs.

These reactors will also be able to produce tritium, a form of heavy hydrogen used to increase the yield of a nuclear explosion, making nuclear bombs smaller and easier to use in a missile warhead.

Such a statement is not unfounded, because the Livermore National Laboratory. Lawrence, founded in 1952 in response to the USSR's atomic bomb test, has long worked on nuclear weapons research.

So far, scientists have not reached a consensus on whether the scientific breakthrough of American physicists is the way to obtain clean energy in the near future. Some experts say fusion power is unlikely to save humanity from the rapidly looming climate crisis.
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December 28, 2022, 07:51:56 PM
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The only problem is that the use of materials that affect the environment such as plastic continues to increase, no matter how much we recycle, reduce and reuse if companies continue to produce heavy plastic ware, it will definitely be useless . But if all the different countries talk about this problem, it can definitely be solved, especially if the ban on anything that damages the nature can be enacted.

In my opinion, it is not necessary to introduce strict bans on the production of plastic products.

How can we save our planet from harmful plastic pollution?

This question can be answered differently.  You can breed special bacteria that will feed on plastic.  These bacteria can be kept in special containers and plastic trash can be periodically loaded into these containers.  

This will make it possible to effectively dispose of harmful plastic, which practically does not decompose into the simplest elements and harms the ecology of our planet.

For me if there should be a regulation that enforces the proper use of harmful things like plastic it's make reduce a damage to in our environment.

About that kind of bacteria, if it is possible that it will help to reduce the amount of harmful plastics that have been increasing for a long time. If it continues to be used improperly, the world will surely become a huge garbage dump.

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December 29, 2022, 05:40:17 AM
Last edit: December 29, 2022, 06:01:21 AM by franky1
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hydrocarbon refinaries only have until about 2069 until oil reserves deplete. so they want to reduces the burn rate from fuel industry to then expand the reverses years left by 100+years instead of 47. because they know even after 2069 people will still want and need plastic products (car dashboards, house window frames, house guttering, etc)

my view on plastics(in 2022) is this
oil becomes fuel. and leaves some nasty toxic sludge behind, if they just burred or burned that, its super dangerous for the environment

however converting that sludge (as they have always done) into useful products has saved that super toxic effect. but now we are at level two. what happens with that converted plastic

having it as single use then disposal is just delaying problems. yes its form is less toxic, but at same time while they pretend that it takes a millenia to break down. we are already seeing microplastics inside animals and ourselves in just about 100 years from first industrial scale use

this is because thin plastic products like grocery bags break down in decades not millenia

we should be prioritising that toxic sludge to becoming long term use plastic such as window frames and other utilities that keep it from disposal for 50 years and then can be ripped out of windows when housing is demolished and recycled into something else with a 50+ year lifecycle

development needs to be done to get cost effective non plastic wear for temporary things like grocery bags, soda bottles, packaging, while meeting the sludge supply and long lasting plastic demand to keep hydrocarbons from just going to waste.

i know some has been done for instance fast food used to have polystyrene trays, now they use card/paper
grocery stores offer paper bags or card board boxes or even cloth bags
some drinks companies are moving to strictly metal cans or glass bottles. but their progress is slow

i understand the fuel refinery need to get rid of toxic sludge quick and cheap which means due to lack of demand of long life plastic the sludge mainly ends up going to one-use product industry cheap cost or free
where by if the one use product industry didnt take the sludge then the fuel refineries end up stock piling and disposing of more toxic sludge

but we need to start finding more long term use demand of plastics to take that sludge and also recycled plastic while reducing how much sludge goes to one use products or even just burned/disposed of at refinery

im also looking into the new industry of desalinating water which leaves behind the brine by-product where researchers are currently trying to develop products/demand to use that brine rather then re-toxifying the oceans with it.
this unsurprisingly ends up showing the thermo fusion industry demand for heavy water which can be found in brine.. as well as lithium for EV car batteries

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December 29, 2022, 03:46:43 PM
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Really - the negative impact of the massive use of plastic, especially for domestic purposes. And most likely, alternative solutions will be found. What will it be?
It can be a replacement from natural components, such as derivatives of flora. Or materials that, though mostly composed of hydrocarbons, are easily recyclable or degradable. The insane use of plastic is a really huge problem. At home, we probably refused by 95%, all bags are now either made of paper or starch-based materials (tactilely a very pleasant replacement for household plastic bags), disposable tableware - paper or recycling, and so on. Plastic bottles are perhaps the biggest problem. We try to buy in glass, and we collect plastic ones separately and give them for recycling.
The bad effects of misuse of plastic items are really big, but if it can be legislated to follow the correct recycling and its use, it will definitely give good results to the world. About your way of reducing the use of plastic in the household is also better.

The only problem this is there big companies that use plastic bottles are really the ones responsible.Every country should watch out for and put a law of using glass or things that are easy to rot to put them in the product. Every day they release billions of plastic bottles and is not better.

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December 29, 2022, 04:11:07 PM
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they cant legislate plastics out of the single-use industry as it would just leave stock piles of sludge at the refineries.

its the single use industry that was established to give purpose to sheer amount of sludge by-product of refineries..

in short you cant poop in a toilet and then ban fertilisers because otherwise your just left with a pile of poop at the sewerage plant that then feeds back to your toilet and overflows onto your nice bathroom tiles

unless you can find a new use of poop. the only options are to continue using poop as a fertiliser while reducing how much poop is flushed by finding new tech ways to deal with bowel movement

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until a country can ramp up demand for long-use plastic to cover the sludge supply. the single-use industry would always be needed

.. they are however trying to find alternative tech to power vehicles to reduce the oil demand to then reduce the sludge that needs to be made into single use. but thats a 40 year goal.

whereby the hope is reducing oil ned by 90% extents oil reserves from 40 years to 400 years. where the sludge by--product meets the 10% demand of long life plastics.. (thats the hope)

yep i said it hydro carbons are not going to end. there would still be oils converted to fuels and plastics. the idea is to bring it down to like 10% and then offset that by having more then 90% renewable energy and carbon sequestration

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