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November 17, 2022, 08:19:38 PM
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Very good Newsletter From The Pomp.

I think Pomp here had a point.

FTX debacle, which came too close to the LUNA/UST drama, is a harsh call on the whole system.

Something everyone reading this forum should already know. There is Bitcoin, then there is crypto.
But in the crypto  Far West it was difficult for everyone to keep the bar to straight , for everyone.

  • Users Yet once again. “Not your keys, not your coins”. How many times do you have to be reminded doing a good risk assessment, when deciding who is handling your private keys
    Please note the at I am not against Bitcoin custodians per se, I am against poorly chosen custodians”, whose category is often identical to “exchanges”

  • Investors: lured into dubious projects  following even more dubious APY or “risk free yield”.  Check this thread to clarify what happen when you think you are getting a risk free yield. Hopefully they now understood where the real value is, and where allocate their assets.

  • Exchanges: instead of focusing on crystal clear operations, regulations and service for clients, setting up convoluted tokenomics schemes, in the best hypothesis out of levity on unintended consequences, but often in dire fraud Hopefully this will lead to a refocusing on that matter the most for their clients (the users, not the governments -Check this thread). Many exchanges have already said are going to significantly improving their operations and transparency adding proof of reserves, as a first step

  • Developers: instead of focusing on the development of the intellectually rewarding projects (namely: Bitcoin and Bitcoin related Technologies) , they indulged financially regarding projects. Hopefully many dubious project in this sphere will see a drain in funding over the coming months

  • Regulators: The long tide of these events will be a flurry of new regulations to ban, regulate, oversee the whole crypto industry. I don’t know if they will be successful, the risk of killing a nascent industry is high, but i guess they now know they need to understand the industry better. And maybe this is good for all of us.  

If you really are an investor then you need to be constantly adapting and adjusting to new information as it becomes available. It doesn't matter if you're invested in gold, wine, crypto or stocks - sometimes you just have to take a step back an re-evaluate everything that attracted you to it, then identify if anything has changed. There will be a small crowd of people who genuinely put little thought into their buying and just saw "line is going up on the chart, I want to jump in". Those people did no research other than feeling greedy and thinking they had an easy way to make money. Others have bought with conviction, used only small amounts of spare funds and are happy to hold wherever the price goes. That type should hopefully secure their crypto in off exchange wallets.

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November 18, 2022, 07:07:07 PM
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If you really are an investor then you need to be constantly adapting and adjusting to new information as it becomes available.

Correct.
What was I trying to tell you is that investors must now realise where those incredible APR came from: nowhere. So this new breed of investors must now realise that every yield is a counterpart of a risk. If they see the yield but don't see the risks, then they are better to re-evaluate the investment.


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November 20, 2022, 04:19:03 AM
 #43

If you really are an investor then you need to be constantly adapting and adjusting to new information as it becomes available.

Correct.
What was I trying to tell you is that investors must now realise where those incredible APR came from: nowhere. So this new breed of investors must now realise that every yield is a counterpart of a risk. If they see the yield but don't see the risks, then they are better to re-evaluate the investment.



Yes. learn from the experience that is happening right now Why did FTX go bankrupt.

In my view, this has a big message for other Exchange Platforms to have a big responsibility to really protect Customer's Money so that it is not corrupted. everything concerns the electability of an Exchange Platform that has been formed from childhood until it already has a name.

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December 02, 2022, 11:07:59 PM
Merited by JayJuanGee (1)
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    • Regulators: The long tide of these events will be a flurry of new regulations to ban, regulate, oversee the whole crypto industry. I don’t know if they will be successful, the risk of killing a nascent industry is high, but i guess they now know they need to understand the industry better. And maybe this is good for all of us.  

    Today on the FT an analysis retiming with that consideration of mine here above:

    Time for a reset of the crypto opportunity

    Quite an interesting article, of course written by a traditional banker, with traditional finance background and focus and the confidence in traditional financial system in mind:


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       https://www.ft.com/content/5568bd6b-99df-4c8b-91bc-e0b49011da80

       A comprehensive regulatory framework is needed, but much of the underpinning already exists and can be extended from the regulation of traditional assets.

    There is a path to be found. We should embrace digital asset innovation, and align it to established rules and measured regulatory principles in order to protect customers and promote resiliency. In so doing, we also protect the most precious asset of all — confidence in our financial system.


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    December 09, 2022, 12:10:24 AM
    Merited by Lida93 (2), JayJuanGee (1), Iroh (1)
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    Yes. learn from the experience that is happening right now Why did FTX go bankrupt.

    In my view, this has a big message for other Exchange Platforms to have a big responsibility to really protect Customer's Money so that it is not corrupted. everything concerns the electability of an Exchange Platform that has been formed from childhood until it already has a name.
    Anyone still surprised? This is why we need to be very careful the way we patronize many of these exchanges because who knows when they might go bankrupt or crash since this does not just started today. The case of FTX was very much predictable but some investors Heard about it never took it seriously then. I hope Sam Bankman will be brought to book since the case is already in court.


    https://twitter.com/UtilityTheory/status/1600975339400093696?t=i_B0us2miR9YB-KCNTbvig&s=19

    It is very obvious that there are many things hidden from us that we don't know and I hope to see them.

    https://twitter.com/WhiteOakFX/status/1600956744032612353?t=uezpH16w9kHyrozG_iHeCQ&s=19

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