Secure Element in Hardware Wallets

[BobbysTransactions]

I don't care about your opinion, so if you don't like what I posted or you don't understand it than simply ignore it.

There are secure elements that are fully closed source, and those that are open source partialy.

This is not my opinion, but a factual information.

Claiming "factual" in this context is meaningless without presuppositions. Stating that hardware of any kind is "partially" open source is equally vacuous. Even if you specify to what extent the design, manufacturing, and firmware are accessible, reproducible, and modifiable by the public, there will probably remain elements that are inaccessible, proprietary, or unverifiable.

No hardware wallet is open source in the full sense of the term, offering complete transparency and reproducibility.

You actually need to have functional brain to understand this table, but I think even average gorilla would understand meaning of this image from my table, and what Open Source is referring to ^{hardware wallets}:

Translation:
First row - hardware wallet name, Second row - open source code.

Maybe my brain isn't functioning, but you say you're referring to source code and that this is obvious, but a few lines above you're presenting the idea of a "partially" open source hardware. Which is it?

[dkbit98]

No hardware wallet is open source

According to you nothing in the world is open source, this is how your brain is operating.
So go ahead and use closed source wallets, since for you there is no difference with open source wallets.

Maybe my brain isn't functioning, but you say you're referring to source code and that this is obvious, but a few lines above you're presenting the idea of a "partially" open source hardware. Which is it?

Oh your brain could be functioning oh right, but sadly not at level of a normal human being
I will say this for the last time OPEN SOURCE in MY TABLE is referring to HARDWARE WALLETS.

PS
Welcome to my ignore list.

[BobbysTransactions]

According to you nothing in the world is open source, this is how your brain is operating.

This is a bizarre response. When did I ever deny the existence of open source software? Are you trying to say there's no material difference between software vs hardware in terms of claims and validation?

Oh your brain could be functioning oh right, but sadly not at level of a normal human being
I will say this for the last time OPEN SOURCE in MY TABLE is referring to HARDWARE WALLETS.

I know that your table is referring to hardware - that's the whole point of my initial reply!


Not a single response has really addressed my main contention:  Even if a HW/SE vendor claims to have open source code the fact is that this code cannot be verified on any independent hardware, so the meaning of open source in this context is very limited when compared with software that can run on multiple hardware types.