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April 19, 2023, 04:48:02 PM
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I don't think AI can figure out why Satoshi Nakamoto disappeared or hid because no one knows who Satoshi Nakamoto is. So I don't think AI can figure it out yet and AI only collects data circulating on the internet and processes it. So I don't agree with what was given by AI even though maybe AI has a point because we also don't know for sure. So we can let Satoshi hide and do whatever he does now.

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April 19, 2023, 07:34:30 PM
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Somehow no one considers the possibility that Satoshi could have just died, e.g. from a disease (let's say a coronavirus). So he might not have had time to reveal himself publicly, if he wanted to do so at all.

We do. It was in fact one of the theories that I thought to be very good, as not long after he disappeared there was a series of Tsunamis in Indonesia, Thailand and Japan. A lot of people died and their bodies were never recovered. If Satoshi lived in these areas, or went there for vacation, he might've died.
I feel like the choice to go into hiding at first was his own, but so many things can happen in 10 years, it's hard to say if he's alive at this point.

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April 19, 2023, 07:40:21 PM
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You know what is also possible: That Satoshi is incredibly ugly and has two noses and only one eye. For that reason he never leaves his house and would certainly not reveal his identity. (Irony off)

The two main reasons will probably be that he does not want to be forced by governments to interfere with bitcoin and also that he can live a happy live enjoying his money.
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April 19, 2023, 07:58:24 PM
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So what have you to say about this, do you agree with ChatGPT or not?

So was ChatGPT able to give any valid point? Or do you have anything contrary to say?

Please share your thoughts on this

All the information that chat gpt has given all this information is said in google. Chat GPT I don't think can discover anything new. Chat GPT turns and answers all the information related to human discussion. Satoshi Nakamatu He kept his identity a secret because he already knew his identity had to be kept secret. But I always respect this creation of his, through his creation, million million of people around the world are employed.
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April 19, 2023, 08:01:29 PM
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if satoshi was known bitcoin would have not success people would just consider it another research and dumb it.

people loves the anonymous idea. they will be more satisfied to deal with and trust an anonymous than someone they know they will doubt his capabilities.

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April 19, 2023, 08:14:07 PM
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There could be any reason behind Satoshi's disappear. We don't even know if Satoshi was a one person or a group of people, so, how can we discuss about the reasons?
1. If he was one person, he may disappeared because he wanted to make Bitcoin look truly decentralized.
2. He disappeared in order to protect himself from the government.
3. He disappeared because he was afraid that if he stayed public, a lot of people would threaten him or elites would try to abuse his influence and power in financial system.
4. He disappeared just for fun
5. He disappeared because he came up with a new altcoin idea and revealed himself there.
6. He probably died.

If Satoshi was a group of people, I believe a group of people wouldn't be able to keep a secret but:
1. Group decided to look like disappeared because it was actually a project of unknown government that wants to takeover financial system.
2. Group members killed each-other.
3. Depends on your fantasy, there can be made tons of conspiracy theories.
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April 19, 2023, 08:14:17 PM
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Although ChatGPT can only generate responses based on the input given, the points raised are still valuable and cannot be ignored. However, the true reason behind Satoshi Nakamoto's actions remains unknown. Revealing himself would compromise the decentralization of the system, as he could potentially influence it at any time. It must be acknowledged that Satoshi is a brilliant mind who knows what he is doing. While we can express our opinions, the truth will remain unknown until Satoshi himself describes it.

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April 19, 2023, 10:58:21 PM
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Do we really need these kind of topics where people will dicuss what chatbot said about various topics?

Why don't you instead share yours own opinion about it rather than asking some chatbot what he has to say, like he can say anything other than what's been said many times before.
Exactly. After all, we know that ChatGPT only absorbs the ideas that has been fed to it, so it’s never a new thing for us. And it’s reason is just like the views from most of us, and only Satoshi knows the real reason why he suddenly left the spotlight. However, if you can say something from your own understanding, that would be much better than just to rely from this chatbot and ask the other members if they would agree or not.

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April 19, 2023, 11:08:15 PM
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Today I just seem to be experimenting with the use of A.I, and a thought just came into my head that what if I ask ChatGPT what could possibly be the reason why the famous inventor of Bitcoin "Satoshi Nakamoto" never made himself known to the public and here is what ChatGPT has to say regarding this topic that has been a bone of contention on this forum for over a decade now.

So what have you to say about this, do you agree with ChatGPT or not?

Those reasons stated by Chatgpt is just a gathered information of how people think why Satoshi hide his identity.  I am still neutral whether to agree or not on the information stated by Chatgpt since the AI software stated itself that it is unclear why Satoshi hide himself.


So was ChatGPT able to give any valid point? Or do you have anything contrary to say?

It is a valid point that no one knows the reason except the person behind Satoshi Nakamoto.  Anything that circulates on the internet are just rumor. I dare not to make any theory or speculation since any reason that I give will be a waste of time but I tend to believe of the rumor that Satoshi is not in this world anymore.
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April 19, 2023, 11:22:25 PM
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ChatGPT has only answered what everyone else is writing over and over again on the internet.
You can't say that there is anything new in his answer.

Everyone here knows the benefits of privacy, I tend to think that people who are interested in Bitcoin for reasons other than pure speculation don't need to think long and hard to come to the same thoughts as ChatGPT.
The reasons for the anonymity and the departure of Satoshi have always attracted a lot of discussion, but the arguments have been the same since the days this happened, so ChatGPT is only repeating what anyone which has taken some time to think or read about the subject would have find out on their own, I do not know if it is just me but while it seems the world is marveled with what it can be accomplished with ChatGPT the more disappointed I feel about it, as it is not as if the answer it gave could not be found in a matter of seconds by anyone that took the time to make that query.
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April 19, 2023, 11:31:37 PM
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Today I just seem to be experimenting with the use of A.I, and a thought just came into my head that what if I ask ChatGPT what could possibly be the reason why the famous inventor of Bitcoin "Satoshi Nakamoto" never made himself known to the public and here is what ChatGPT has to say regarding this topic that has been a bone of contention on this forum for over a decade now.


Anything the ChatGPT communicates to you is simply information that has been stored on its server. This information was originally written by someone else, copied from the source material, and stored in the AI database. If you were to ask Google the same question, you might receive a similar answer, even if it's not exactly the same content. As for why Satoshi Nakamoto, the creator of Bitcoin, remains anonymous, the image from the second paragraph provides some insight.

However, it's more likely that Satoshi chose to remain anonymous because they believed it was in the best interest of the Bitcoin network, try and compare the actions of Altcoin teams and their performance to what the Bitcoin community is doing on Bitcoin, you will gain a better understanding of why they made this decision.

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April 19, 2023, 11:46:12 PM
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This is one of the reasons why Satoshi himself hasn't shown his or her identity, but we don't know what the truth is because most of the comments or speculation online is the same as what ChatGPT shows. Only Satoshi knows the reason why he/she hides himself, but no matter the reason, let's focus more on Bitcoin, the beauty of his creation, and we should make use of it as it has brought us advantages as well as financial help.
Yes, there's no much difference on what GPT did give out such response considering that all of those had been mentioned out solely on this forum when it comes to those possible reasons on why Satoshis didnt show

up himself into the public.In speaking about on things into his mind, then he might not be expecting that the project that he had made out turned out to be this big.If ever he's still alive nowadays then for sure

he's seeing on how successful the project the he had made.It would really be just normal that he would be minding about his privacy for his safety and security knowing that the creation he made out is  something that
opposes centralization or government itself which its just common sense on what we are looking into.


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April 19, 2023, 11:52:37 PM
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Although ChatGPT can only generate responses based on the input given, the points raised are still valuable and cannot be ignored. However, the true reason behind Satoshi Nakamoto's actions remains unknown. Revealing himself would compromise the decentralization of the system, as he could potentially influence it at any time. It must be acknowledged that Satoshi is a brilliant mind who knows what he is doing. While we can express our opinions, the truth will remain unknown until Satoshi himself describes it.

Correct and we also don't know whether he has long been revealed already and influences the network regardless, but as a new persona. Now he could still influence it anyway in terms market reactions when he were to start moving some of his coins. That would probably make the market quite nervous. But other than that the best you could do in his case it to actually leave the pseudonym Nakamoto behind and appear as some IT guy who is interested in the topic and contribute. There are a lot of names that would in theory be eligible.

Now there aren't many actors who would never move any coins when they are actually holding a million or even a bit more than that.

1. The actor is a dead actor and so can't move the coins anymore for obvious reasons (unobvious to us)
2. A multi-multi billionaire who has no financial incentive to move any coin yet, helping to push infrastructure and adoption with money he, she or they own without Bitcoin
3. A government that has enormously long-term plans and sufficient money to not ever be forced to touch those Bitcoin

I can't prove it of course, but I doubt that a private person from the middle class would have never touched the wallets at these prices. Some said that the private keys might be lost, but I think that someone who wrote the code for Bitcoin probably has some experience with storing keys securely and such that not all is lost even when a catastrophe happens. Wink
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April 20, 2023, 01:05:40 AM
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It's a reasonable answer.

The main difference of Bitcoin compared to similar alternatives at the time was decentralization

Have a look at this post from Satoshi: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/bitcoin-open-source

Quote from: Satoshi Nakamoto
A lot of people automatically dismiss e-currency as a lost cause because of all the companies that failed since the 1990's. I hope it's obvious it was only the centrally controlled nature of those systems that doomed them. I think this is the first time we're trying a decentralized, non-trust-based system.

Also worth noting this:

Quote from: Satoshi Nakamoto
I've developed a new open source P2P e-cash system called Bitcoin. It's completely decentralized, with no central server or trusted parties, because everything is based on crypto proof instead of trust. Give it a try, or take a look at the screenshots and design paper:

Note the I, as in, only a single person developed Bitcoin. Of course they were standing on the shoulders of giants with all the research and development done prior. That's how knowledge advances.

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April 20, 2023, 01:11:15 AM
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I don't think AI can figure out why Satoshi Nakamoto disappeared or hid because no one knows who Satoshi Nakamoto is. So I don't think AI can figure it out yet and AI only collects data circulating on the internet and processes it. So I don't agree with what was given by AI even though maybe AI has a point because we also don't know for sure. So we can let Satoshi hide and do whatever he does now.

Exactly, AI is just a robot, and its data is completely provided by us. They cannot think and answer for us on their own, AI answers are also answered and recorded by humans. AI is only good for us looking for data, they should not be taken as trustworthy and trust completely what they say.
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April 20, 2023, 06:48:14 AM
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I don't think AI can figure out why Satoshi Nakamoto disappeared or hid because no one knows who Satoshi Nakamoto is. So I don't think AI can figure it out yet and AI only collects data circulating on the internet and processes it. So I don't agree with what was given by AI even though maybe AI has a point because we also don't know for sure. So we can let Satoshi hide and do whatever he does now.

Exactly, AI is just a robot, and its data is completely provided by us. They cannot think and answer for us on their own, AI answers are also answered and recorded by humans. AI is only good for us looking for data, they should not be taken as trustworthy and trust completely what they say.
But when technology can be further developed to be more advanced, AI may detect or look for other information that can come from anywhere. And if that happens, maybe there will be a massive change in the world of technology and many people will depend on the use of AI. But before that happens, we still have to wait a few more years and in the meantime, we'd better look for the data through the sources we've used.

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April 20, 2023, 07:23:11 AM
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The AI have just added the few response/reason. Going through the thread created years back we were able to see lot more possibilities for his anonymity, Why Satoshi Nakamoto Remains Anonymous. Nothing gonna make anything strange and for sure we're not gonna know who the real Satoshi Nakamoto. What's gonna happen on knowing his identity, just understand the good he had in his mind and support his innovation than analysing the reason behind his anonymity.

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April 20, 2023, 11:13:05 PM
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It looks like the OP is equating ChatGPT with some kind of super-smart that knows something no one else does. More proof of how AI is taking over the minds of people who rely on robots as their last resort
OP, ask where ChatGPT can get such answers. And in addition, ask how many bugs and incorrect answers this artificial creature gave.

Exactly and op is one of the reasons why I'm supporting Elon musk in the ban of AI because at the long run, I think that this AI is already making alot of people becoming more lazy and so dependent of robots to perform.their daily task.
I personally at some point don't see any reasons for people to practically ask ChatGPT unnecessary questions that could easily be Googled and expect to see some exceptional answers.
What ChatGPT does is to get the opinions of others on a topic and just summarize them to the simplest understandable term.
I've seen a post where ChatGPT had to spell it out that it has no personal feelings ad opinion.

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April 20, 2023, 11:29:38 PM
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When I was reading the ChatGPT's response, I felt as if I had read this someplace else before, and as I read further, I felt as if I knew the following statement or one similar to the one it offered that would follow up the answer. It has previously been said that this new technology can only interpret data that has already been submitted by people. It can't think for itself unless it gets information gathered from the internet. It's just a typical plagiarist who doesn't give credit to the original source of the information it provides.

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