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August 18, 2023, 01:45:44 PM
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If you are a trader then timing is of immense importance to you while trading. Because training at a slightly wrong time can make you lose your entire money. Timing is a special consideration when trading. Timing is of utmost importance in trading. Because there is a fear of losing all your money. You need to do maximum research about timing and what time of the day to trade and what time to avoid trading.

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August 18, 2023, 04:44:33 PM
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When we are talking trading I think that the strategies deals with timing, that is why people do tell others to learn and understand the bases of trading before putting their money in trading, its very important you understand the normal protocol of timing the time of achieving the profits, who ever that is trading will consider timing as the most important thing and I believe that will be the first target of trading
I think trading is not for everyone who have a good understanding of trading they can make profit if they trade. And if someone starts trading without understanding anything about trading it will be very difficult for him. It is very easy to make money from trading. And some times it becomes very difficult. I almost lost money while trading. At first when I started trading with a good idea about trading, I made a lot of money.

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August 18, 2023, 05:11:19 PM
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Timing isn't impossible but never think that you can do it always.
I've tried scalping and also swing trading, and the result is mixed. What I mean is that sometimes I was too lucky and got perfect timing but sometimes I lose due to unpredictable changes. In scalping, every second is a big deal and as in every second, the price of crypto will move as well. It was too hard to think that we always make a profit from trading and doing whatever we did, losses are still possible.
It is obviously not possible to perfectly time the market all the time, even the most expert traders would miss the correct timing sometimes and incur losses, so it's not something very serious, although it will be concerning if you are missing the timing for most of your trades which means that you are going in a loss instead of getting any profits from your trades when scalping a certain coin or token or maybe multiple coins at once.

So the point is that someone who might be losing a few trades due to imperfect timing of making the trades but is managing to do well otherwise should not be worried at all since their net value will be in profit, but if it is the opposite of that, the trader must evaluate their strategies and practice more.

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August 18, 2023, 05:23:11 PM
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Not only in trading, but in each and every place where money is involved or invested, Timing plays an important role there. Timing determines the amount of profit you will take from the particular task or here you can say from trading. If you miss the correct time to buy and miss the perfect time to sell, then the loss percentage per trade will increase. If you are a newbie then along with patience, you need to master the art of timing in order to make good trades.

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August 18, 2023, 05:35:24 PM
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        -     You know the truth, if only all of us traders in this community knew the right way to use the right timing of buying and selling, for sure we would all be happy to get earnings from crypto trading. But the problem is that not everyone knows how to use it correctly and often others rely on predictions.

And the timing methods is something that you know deeply about the trading activity here in the crypto industry as well. even experts often fail in this method because the market is very unpredictable in the crypto space. This is the fact reality here.
Unfortunately that is not possible. I mean not because we can't all know when to buy, but because if we all timed it right, then we all timed at the same time to sell, we just can't all buy at the same price. Think about it, timing the buying right means that you buy at the bottom, it doesn't go any lower than that, but if we all buy at that price, then some of us will not be able to buy it, how could everyone buy billions and billions of dollars worth of bitcoin all at the same time, who would sell to us?

We need sellers as well, meaning some people sold at the bottom. And if we time selling greatly, sell at peak, doesn't go any higher, that means someone must buy at that price. So all in all, it doesn't work that way.

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August 18, 2023, 05:46:29 PM
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There are a lot of ways to define time, depending who you are talking to because there are some people that have a concept of time differently. But anyway, in trading, it's definitely the x-axis that would define how your chart will look like.

You need to be more specific with what you are trying to discuss and connect it. You said it's timing and you can have different time in trading in terms of the increments on the type of trader. Like
  • In Months
  • In Days
  • In Minutes

It's basically the timeframe and they have different x-axis for that. The timing might not be the same depending on the indicator that you have. It's important as well to note that timing the market would be very hard.

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August 30, 2023, 02:18:12 PM
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So the point is that someone who might be losing a few trades due to imperfect timing of making the trades but is managing to do well otherwise should not be worried at all since their net value will be in profit, but if it is the opposite of that, the trader must evaluate their strategies and practice more.
That wrongly timed trade will cost them however they might try to balance it out by another trade. Of course in long term it will cancel each other out and you might end up in a net profit but it can be stressful in the short term.

Time the trade when the market is dropping or rising and this has an impact on the total profit that capital can make. Not that it is a must thing, but it has its importance and should not be ignored. If you lose them time to place to trade, just wait it out for the next opportunity.

This is a broad topic for buying/selling and those who actively trade will understand the idea correctly.

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August 30, 2023, 03:46:31 PM
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So the point is that someone who might be losing a few trades due to imperfect timing of making the trades but is managing to do well otherwise should not be worried at all since their net value will be in profit, but if it is the opposite of that, the trader must evaluate their strategies and practice more.
That wrongly timed trade will cost them however they might try to balance it out by another trade. Of course in long term it will cancel each other out and you might end up in a net profit but it can be stressful in the short term.

Time the trade when the market is dropping or rising and this has an impact on the total profit that capital can make. Not that it is a must thing, but it has its importance and should not be ignored. If you lose them time to place to trade, just wait it out for the next opportunity.

This is a broad topic for buying/selling and those who actively trade will understand the idea correctly.
Do not force yourself when you feel that you are already behind seeing from the analysis that we do, because if we still force to enter when we know it is quite late then it will make our risk even greater than before.
In trading we must see the right moment to enter, and that moment will always come even though maybe in the previous moment we were left behind. So it is better to wait longer to find the right moment again. It is very difficult to determine where the right moment is, because just one mistake will make a loss. But trading is a risk and that risk from the beginning we must have thought carefully.

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August 30, 2023, 07:57:39 PM
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If you are a trader then timing is of immense importance to you while trading. Because training at a slightly wrong time can make you lose your entire money. Timing is a special consideration when trading. Timing is of utmost importance in trading. Because there is a fear of losing all your money. You need to do maximum research about timing and what time of the day to trade and what time to avoid trading.
Timing is very important for us to make profits and if we miss the time when we are supposed to buy a coin, then we might be surprised that the market would have left us by the time we are ready to buy or sell. This is why market analysis is very important for us before we enter the market. This will give us a good timing to when to sell or buy in the market.
Inaccurate timing can cause us a big lose if we are nit able to adjust immediately we notice it. The big traders are very good in timing the market before they buy that is why they are always ready to go long or short when they are ready to trade in the market.









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August 30, 2023, 08:51:57 PM
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If we do speak on what kind of trader i am then i would be sticking into this;

Position trading
On which im not really that a fan of scalping and i do have tested out for various moments or conditions on which i could say that it is really that a totally different experience or situation
comparing when you are scalping on forex or stocks on which it is really that evident about when it comes to volatility. We do know that when it comes to probabilities
then it could really be having that two possible ways which is going up and down.

Speaking about timing then time is really that crucial but on the moment that you had missed out whether buying or selling on a particular moment then thats a missed opportunity
but since this market doesnt really have that open/close market then it would really be a 24/7 265 days a year when it comes to possible profits and opportunities on which
you could anytime dive in.

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August 30, 2023, 09:36:49 PM
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Well, time really matters in trading, and if you are a scalper, we are very keen on every price movement. But this will depend also on the coin that we choose and this will really work if you are using a highly volatile coin that is why we also have to assess the trend of that particular coin before buying.

However, OP seems right that not do all the time we are a scalper as we also rely on the market movement, and based on my experience, we need sometimes to adjust our time frame from 1 minute to a longer time frame especially when sudden price drops happen. And sometimes it happens from a trader, it becomes a short-time holder.

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August 30, 2023, 09:46:09 PM
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Timing is important in trading, but the most important than timing is developing a trading strategy, as this strategy will place the importance of timing. For example, if you are a long-term trader, times such as a day or two will not constitute a change in the price. the scale on the weekly pattern or several weeks is what governs your trading strategy.
in daily trading trading patterns is less than 24 hours, and therefore allocating it to hours or minutes will be the best, and then your profits will be limited to less than 5%, or whenever you achieve profits, even by 1%, you can close the deal, as the trading strategy here is to achieve several simple profits, but open several Intraday deals, which is the opposite of long term trading.

In general, trading is a mixture of several things. the simple knowledge of all of them is what makes you make a profit and not focus on one type of trading.
Absolutely. The type of trading will also depend on where you’re skilled at, but I say your knowledge and skills, will lead you to the right timing of your trade. Timing is very much important, as well strategies and attitudes towards trading are crucial as well. If you are not capable to fit all these things in your trading career, then it’s better not to jump into trading but acquire more knowledge and develop more strategies first before you consider taking risk in trading.
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I just want to ask you, OP, do you have extensive knowledge of trading cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin? Or are you a professional trader? because the topic you raised is about making the right timing decisions in trading. Do you have any idea that it is not as easy to learn as others think it is?

But if there is, you will have an edge immediately if you know when you should and should not use the timing to buy or sell crypto or bitcoin. You will be really profitable that way, but before you get it and know that, you have to know how to read a chart on a graph and how to use tools in the trading view, like MVA, Trendline, and others, You know what I mean.


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August 31, 2023, 10:14:17 AM
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We cannot really skip emotion to be considered in trading. Emotion can make someone make a rational decision or a foolish decision.
At most times when emotions have been involved, foolish decisions are being made.

I agree with you every trader or good traders needs to develop a stable emotion.
Good traders can't also skip that but that's true that they've got more control to their emotions and they don't let it slip by their hands. And that is because they've experienced it before on how it goes when they make wrong decisions with their trades.
This is why only few traders are making sustainable and profitable trades since a lot of them have find it hard to manage their emotions and greed. Traders are consistently battling with their own emotions and if they fail controlling them, these traders end up as frustrated ones. However, it is said that there’s no good traders that could eventually stop from their emotions, it’s either they will control them or lessen their emotions in order to minimize the risk of losing as well.

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August 31, 2023, 10:58:59 AM
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Timing is very important for us to make profits and if we miss the time when we are supposed to buy a coin, then we might be surprised that the market would have left us by the time we are ready to buy or sell. This is why market analysis is very important for us before we enter the market. This will give us a good timing to when to sell or buy in the market.
Inaccurate timing can cause us a big lose if we are nit able to adjust immediately we notice it. The big traders are very good in timing the market before they buy that is why they are always ready to go long or short when they are ready to trade in the market.

Trading and timing works together because if you don't time the market to enter at the exact time you are suppose to enter, you'll miss out of getting the full profits of that trade that you entered and sometimes you get to lose because you entered wrongly. This is the reason experience is very important for any individual that wants to become a professional trader, you need to know when to enter the market and when to exit the market or you lose always.

Exiting a trade is as important as entering a trade, most traders are good at one but bad at the other and exiting a trade is where most individual traders aren't very good at and that's why we have many traders losing more than winning because of bad timing of the market.

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Trading and timing works together because if you don't time the market to enter at the exact time you are suppose to enter, you'll miss out of getting the full profits of that trade that you entered and sometimes you get to lose because you entered wrongly. This is the reason experience is very important for any individual that wants to become a professional trader, you need to know when to enter the market and when to exit the market or you lose always.

Of course, trade and time are inextricably linked. As you said, if you want to trade but you don't have the free time to start then it will be a waste. I think it's quite common for some traders to lose time or maybe miss the moment that they should take and I think it's a common thing that often happens and it's not uncommon for those who experience it. It happens usually because of their inadvertence because maybe they have other activities out there, and also in my opinion if at that time they take the opportunity to open their trade it cannot be ensured that they will be able to make a profit, the market is very volatile and they can suddenly experience a loss there. You need to train yourself by learning various knowledge from other professional traders or you can also learn from the mistakes you have made, and if you already understand each time movement in a certain time range then I think you will have no difficulty in finding the right time to open a trade.

Exiting a trade is as important as entering a trade, most traders are good at one but bad at the other and exiting a trade is where most individual traders aren't very good at and that's why we have many traders losing more than winning because of bad timing of the market.

And yes, this is usually their problem especially for beginners, they have the knowledge of when to enter the market but on the other hand there are also those who do not know when to get out of there. Many of the traders are then trapped because maybe they have made a profit that makes them feel happy and after that they forget to get out of there and forget some of their trading plans. The market will not always be in our favor, and with that it is very important to implement various trading plans such as take profit when you win and also stop lose when you lose. All of that should be applied in every trade because that's the only thing that can help them to minimize their MC.

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