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November 26, 2024, 11:08:05 AM
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I do see the derived Bitcoin addresses with their corresponding private keys on the far right side, what do I do with them?

Regarding the Bitcoin address I used, the addresses are showing on my live app so they are noted

Some wallets allow you to import individual addresses and private keys (like Electrum for example), so you dont even need a 24-word mnemonic backup in that case. In Electrum, run the Create new wallet wizard and select "Import Bitcoin Addresses or Private keys".

Be careful when copying and pasting private keys, and make sure your devices are secure and protected. Anyone with access to your private keys will have unrestricted access to your funds as well.




(Some wallets allow you to import individual addresses and private keys (like Electrum for example), so you dont even need a 24-word mnemonic backup in that case. In Electrum, run the Create new wallet wizard and select "Import Bitcoin Addresses or Private keys".)


I may be going on a trip for several months imminently.
Will I still be able to do this many months down the line? 
Or is time a factor?


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So All I need to do is use my BTC address the funds were sent to (device no longer have PW's for) and I can return the funds to the BTC address I sent them from?


Thanks again
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November 26, 2024, 11:27:53 AM
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Will I still be able to do this many months down the line?
Or is time a factor?
If you have the private key, there is no time limit (as long as nobody else gains access to your private key).

So All I need to do is use my BTC address the funds were sent to (device no longer have PW's for) and I can return the funds to the BTC address I sent them from?
No. Bitcoin wouldn't exist if that would work. You need the private key for the address that currently holds the coins.

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November 26, 2024, 12:15:54 PM
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but then I restored the device using old PW's as hadnt saved the new ones by accident.
That's the one I don't really get. You say old and new PW's, that means you had two sets of 24 words, right? So after sending the transaction, you restored the ledger with the other words, and the first ones were lost?
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November 26, 2024, 02:14:29 PM
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but then I restored the device using old PW's as hadnt saved the new ones by accident.
That's the one I don't really get. You say old and new PW's, that means you had two sets of 24 words, right? So after sending the transaction, you restored the ledger with the other words, and the first ones were lost?

Yes, I restored the Ledger with the old PW's it seems and the new ones were lost.

Also, will I still be able to obtain my Private key without my 24 PW's?

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November 26, 2024, 02:23:00 PM
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Yes, I restored the Ledger with the old PW's it seems and the new ones were lost.
Then if I understand your situation correctly, along with the 24 words you lost access to your coins. You need those 24 words, not any other. It's not a password that can be changed, it's a seed phrase from which private keys are calculated.
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Also, will I still be able to obtain my Private key without my 24 PW's?
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November 26, 2024, 02:33:32 PM
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Yes, I restored the Ledger with the old PW's it seems and the new ones were lost.
Then if I understand your situation correctly, along with the 24 words you lost access to your coins. You need those 24 words, not any other. It's not a password that can be changed, it's a seed phrase from which private keys are calculated.
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Also, will I still be able to obtain my Private key without my 24 PW's?
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I do still have the Ledger device I set up with the correct PW's I then lost
Would you know if there is a way to get past PW's used on a ledger device from it?
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November 26, 2024, 02:46:24 PM
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I do still have the Ledger device I set up with the correct PW's I then lost
Well then it turns out that I misunderstood you ). In that case you just need to figure out what the problem is. Does your computer see the device? Could the problem be in the usb-cable or connector?
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Would you know if there is a way to get past PW's used on a ledger device from it?
There is no way to get seed phrase out of the device.
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November 26, 2024, 04:47:47 PM
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I do still have the Ledger device I set up with the correct PW's I then lost
Well then it turns out that I misunderstood you ). In that case you just need to figure out what the problem is. Does your computer see the device? Could the problem be in the usb-cable or connector?
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Would you know if there is a way to get past PW's used on a ledger device from it?
There is no way to get seed phrase out of the device.


My computer does see the Ledger device but the Live acc doesnt recognize it

I set up the Live acc and the ledger did allow me to send and receive several transactions using the Ledger, but when I tried to use the ledger a week later it didnt recognize it.
So I restored the Ledger via the 24 PW's I had saved
My thinking is that the initial nonrecognition of the Ledger device may have been some simple error, but when I restored the device using what I now believe to be the wrong PW's the previous Live acc is now inaccessible
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November 26, 2024, 05:21:00 PM
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My thinking is that the initial nonrecognition of the Ledger device may have been some simple error, but when I restored the device using what I now believe to be the wrong PW's the previous Live acc is now inaccessible
Before you can restore a seed phrase, the previous wallet is wiped from the device.

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November 26, 2024, 09:26:25 PM
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My computer does see the Ledger device but the Live acc doesnt recognize it

I set up the Live acc and the ledger did allow me to send and receive several transactions using the Ledger, but when I tried to use the ledger a week later it didnt recognize it.
So I restored the Ledger via the 24 PW's I had saved
My thinking is that the initial nonrecognition of the Ledger device may have been some simple error, but when I restored the device using what I now believe to be the wrong PW's the previous Live acc is now inaccessible

My previous answer in this thread was based on what you said that you had access to your "Bitcoin addresses with their corresponding private keys." However, it seems this isnt the case. Perhaps you misunderstand what private keys are or you are using the wrong terminology.

In any case, if I understand you correctly, you restored your Ledger device with a new set of 24 words (a new backup phrase). If so, there is no way to access the previous wallet on the device unless you have written down the correct 24-word backup phrase. Thats the entire purpose of hardware wallets. They securely store the private keys to your Bitcoin addresses, preventing anyone from accessing your coins without them.

If you have reset your hardware device and dont have the correct backup seed phrase, Im afraid your coins are lost.

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