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November 13, 2023, 09:27:25 AM
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That's called a "long con", where someone pretends to be honest to pull a big exit scam. It happens, and there's not much we can do about it other than not trusting anyone.

There's a much easier way to "invest" in positive feedback: buy and sell a few Collectibles, even better if you use an escrow and the escrow leaves you positive feedback (for paying for their services) too.

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November 13, 2023, 02:37:18 PM
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I don't know if you share my reading of this, and if you can think of any way to prevent it.
That kind of understanding, I personally remain optimistic, bad and good are two different problems, they can come and go based on situations, circumstances and actions that we don't want to expect.

The beginning was honest and good, at the end of the story it ended in fraud, my understanding is that in situations like that there are separate factors and reasons for this to happen, the essence of which is that every company or something hopes to be successful and develop in the future, no well-known company wants to end their career with the impression of fraud, except as I said above.

The success and failure of a company greatly influences the people who run it, even though the company was initially respected and ended up being criticized, whatever you have seen, my judgment is on the owner.

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November 13, 2023, 02:42:31 PM
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It sounds to me like some recent cases might fall into this category, like Betnomi.

I don't know if you share my reading of this, and if you can think of any way to prevent it.

There’s no way to prevent this since all of us here is anonymous which means we are relying on trust to each other same with the project that launching here in the forum.

I believe we can only minimize the damage instead of totally stopping it by reminding everyone to deposit only what they can afford to lose. A project will never be tagged as a scammer if they still didn’t commit the crime.

This is same scenario on other businesses outside the forum like exchanges that usually file bankruptcy when they are losing profit.

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November 13, 2023, 03:37:24 PM
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I think a one smartmixer.io pulled off such an exit scam and took someone's 10 BTC.
If I remember this case correctly, I think that the mixing service requested to withdraw the money from the escrow and the money was sent to them without notification. I suggested the same thing to @WWM and it helped many people in getting their money back after the disappearance of WWM, so in the case of smartmixer the damage would have been minimized by using escrow money.


There's a much easier way to "invest" in positive feedback: buy and sell a few Collectibles, even better if you use an escrow and the escrow leaves you positive feedback (for paying for their services) too.

How will the receipt address be hidden? I think it will leave a loophole to know the whereabouts of scammer, which is the last thing any scammer would want, especially since you may be asked to pic Collectibles after receiving them.
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November 13, 2023, 03:57:24 PM
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How will the receipt address be hidden? I think it will leave a loophole to know the whereabouts of scammer, which is the last thing any scammer would want, especially since you may be asked to pic Collectibles after receiving them.

I can think of a P.O. Box that you can hire somewhere far from where you live. The sender will know the country where you live and probably the region, little else. There are countries where you don't even need to hire a P.O Box, you can receive anonymous shipments in certain places:

Personally, when I need to have something delivered from the forum, I choose a letterbox belonging to a third party, or I use an empty box in a building and put the name of my choice on it (in my country, postman's key-passes are legal to buy as an individual).

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November 14, 2023, 01:36:28 PM
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How will the receipt address be hidden? I think it will leave a loophole to know the whereabouts of scammer, which is the last thing any scammer would want, especially since you may be asked to pic Collectibles after receiving them.
The scammer on his long term mission to pull off an exit scam can easily use one of those International parcel forwarding services like shipito.com. All he will share with his trading partners is an address generated to him by the service, but not his actual address

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November 14, 2023, 03:02:07 PM
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Because of a case that I don't see clearly lately, I've been thinking about this.

Let's think about someone who knows the forum well and plans to make a scam beforehand. He launches a casino or a mixer, the most typical, and for that he makes an initial investment. He hires people to make him an Ann, maybe design something, and run a signature campaign, things like that, which most likely will earn him positive feedback.

So the business starts to work, and the only question I have here is that if it works by doing it honestly, why are you going to rip people off, but it could be like a backup plan for when the chips are down. You stop withdrawals, you stop responding, you disappear with the money.

It sounds to me like some recent cases might fall into this category, like Betnomi.

I don't know if you share my reading of this, and if you can think of any way to prevent it.

I don't understand why anyone would want to do this if they succeed with launching a casino/mixer, it's not even a guarantee that if you start a casino/mixer that it will be successful.
I can just talk for myself but if I would start a successful online company whatever it is, that bring me an income every month. I would never destroy it just for some "quick & stressful" cash.
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November 14, 2023, 05:43:40 PM
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Things like this always happens if they already had an evil intention towards the business, they always have a target for running such business...Lemme say if campaign or business being established in the crypto space or in real world and they had a plan of scamming people some billions such persons don't mind spending several millions into the business in order to achieve their plans and they can run for long time till they met their target, it could last for years maybe 3 to 5 years working underway to make sure their plans are being executed but where the problems lays is identity.

Most people that has such evil intention do not always want their identity to be revealed and even if such people revealed their identity they go hiring people to showcase themselves but internally there are people who are running business and have evil plans to scam people because their minds already compromised towards that business. If the business finally gained ground or being established an gained trust then they strick people off that is why most scammers I mean those people who scammed billions or millions do not just sacrifice only 100k rather but would make it in away to gain trust from around.
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