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May 24, 2024, 09:00:58 AM
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Your posts are quite similar to unlimitedmoneyscammer's. Any chance you two are brothers or something? Maybe you're also Cyrus's buddy?
I have been carefully studying their form of operation and yet still not convinced, until I came across your comment here. Your findings makes me convinced they are likely one person or same groups of people.
Just take a look at someone sending out 0.0005 to receive 0.001BTC, like, even if is a newbie such person would understand there is a fowl pay behind the whole thing.

Well, if actually we should be honest with ourselves, then we must agree that sending or spending 0.0005 bitcoin to receive 0.001 or even more is very possible as long as it's gambling we are talking about, I mean, many of us do this on several online casinos, send in a deposit of 0.0005, and end up withdrawing even up to or more than 0.05 bitcoin when and if we are in luck, and I bet any of you that if op had introduced a beautiful well developed and designed casino website here with introduction to this game model, whereby now, instead of this manual process op introduced here, we have to sign up on the site, then deposit the bitcoin, and then the system does the computing and choosing the winner and sending the won amount to his account, some of us here wouldn't have doubted the legitimacy of op, as I believe some would have jumped on this to test it, afterall, 0.0005 bitcoin is not so much money to lose to gambling, many of us lose even much more than this and are comfortable at the end of the day.

This teaches us that in every business idea or model, packaging is important, you plan a business model and present it to the general public well packaged, most will believe and take you serious.
But when you plan a business model and present it to the general public not well packaged, no body will take you serious and some will even call you a scammer.

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May 24, 2024, 01:45:26 PM
Last edit: May 24, 2024, 02:06:30 PM by Moreno233
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0.0005 BTC Reward 0.001 BTC - minus fees
0.001 BTC Reward 0.002 BTC - minus fees
0.005 BTC Reward 0.010 BTC - minus fees
0.01 BTC Reward 0.02 BTC - minus fees
0.1 BTC Reward 0.2 BTC - minus fees
1 BTC Reward 2 BTC - minus fees

This is a perfect example of a ponzi scheme, well crafted and hoisted on the blockchain to make it look legit. If you will not be too greedy, the best that can come out of it is to collect as many 0.0005BTC as you can get and then pay one or two persons and winning then pocket the rest. But I know greed will not let you pay anyone as you will want to take it all. Anyone who falls for this deserves to be scammed, maybe it can be taken for the donation he made so that he will be smart in this digital age.

Why do I have to go through the stress of winning X2 that might not even be possible when I have better offer in reputable casinos like Rollbit.com? It is better to deposit that money in casino and play slot or dice.

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May 24, 2024, 02:03:02 PM
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Bet Sizes

0.0005 BTC Reward 0.001 BTC - minus fees
0.001 BTC Reward 0.002 BTC - minus fees
0.005 BTC Reward 0.010 BTC - minus fees
0.01 BTC Reward 0.02 BTC - minus fees
0.1 BTC Reward 0.2 BTC - minus fees
1 BTC Reward 2 BTC - minus fees

This is a perfect example of a ponzi scheme, well crafted and hoisted on the blockchain to make it look legit. If you will not be too greedy, the best that can come out of it is to collect as many 0.0005BTC as you can get and then pay one or two persons and winning then pocket the rest. But I know greed will not let you pay anyone as you will want to take it all. Anyone who falls for this deserves to be scammed, maybe it can be taken for the donation he made so that he will be smart in this digital age.

Why do I have go through this for the stress of winning X2 that might not even be possible when I have better offer in reputable casinos like Rollbit.com? It is better to deposit that money in casino and play slot or dice.

Well people are not so greedy enough to determine that what they see in this thread is just pure nonsense. For sure people will not fall on this and think about the same as you said. I don't know if there's someone will pay attention to try this since majority know that this is so off for them. And there's really a question if they could ever pay those people participate since it looks like the main intention of this program is to try to convince people to deposit some funds then OP will run.

Much really better to go somewhere else especially to those reputable casino since from there there's high chance that we can get more realistic gains.

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May 24, 2024, 02:42:56 PM
Last edit: May 24, 2024, 03:54:33 PM by stompix
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How Bitcoin entropy selects the winner?
When sender 2 sends the amount will be created a transaction ID hash in the blockchain, if number 1 apears first in the transaction ID, the first depositor win the funds if number 2 apears first in the transaction ID hash the second depositor win the funds

That's not how entropy works.
The moment player 2 creates a tx he knows the ID of that transaction before it gets broadcasted, so when he simulates the tx he already knows his chances of winning or not winning the bet, so he will try different tx till he gets one with a number 2 before number 1.

True entropy would be relying on the block hash of the second confirmation, but seems like you rushed to get bets donations to that address that you forgot how bitcoin works.



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May 24, 2024, 03:29:15 PM
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Well, if actually we should be honest with ourselves, then we must agree that sending or spending 0.0005 bitcoin to receive 0.001 or even more is very possible as long as it's gambling we are talking about, I mean, many of us do this on several online casinos, send in a deposit of 0.0005, and end up withdrawing even up to or more than 0.05 bitcoin when and if we are in luck, and I bet any of you that if op had introduced a beautiful well developed and designed casino website here with introduction to this game model, whereby now, instead of this manual process op introduced here, we have to sign up on the site, then deposit the bitcoin, and then the system does the computing and choosing the winner and sending the won amount to his account, some of us here wouldn't have doubted the legitimacy of op, as I believe some would have jumped on this to test it, afterall, 0.0005 bitcoin is not so much money to lose to gambling, many of us lose even much more than this and are comfortable at the end of the day.
I disagree. No level of presentation is enough to easily fool forum members when the theme is doubling money. Such scams are extremely easy to spot these days and they are rarely effective anymore.

Using fancy words like entropy etc are enough either in this context. You need to be really creative to scam members of this forum if you ask me.

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May 24, 2024, 08:49:46 PM
Last edit: May 24, 2024, 09:10:11 PM by Saint-loup
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Stompix is right if the player 2 uses some advanced wallets like Electrum he will be able to know its transaction ID before broadcasting it. How do you manage that @OP? In addition, despite 3 pages of "comments" nobody has still send one satoshi to the game address, however 2 bets with the same stake should be placed to get an outcome. It means first players could wait days, weeks or even months before having a chance to get back their stake along with their winnings.

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May 24, 2024, 10:01:31 PM
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^^
I'm really shocked that there are already three pages of replies and no one've noticed this flaw until stompix pointed it out!
The transaction ID is not generated by the blockchain as OP claims. It's nothing but the result of hashing the transaction data twice with SHA256.

Even if it wasn't possible to know the tx Id before broadcasting the transaction, there is still the possibility to keep RBFing it til you get the desired result.

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May 26, 2024, 05:44:32 PM
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I'm really shocked that there are already three pages of replies and no one've noticed this flaw until stompix pointed it out!
Because, not all bitcoiners are aware of what is entropy and how it works. Unfortunately, most crypto gamblers do not know how to cross verify their games even after they are playing in a provably fair environment. Gamblers these days are too lazy to educate themselves on these kind of basics or too busy on social media these days. Honestly even I am aware of all such technical things and how to use them for a gambling, I will never test with mu hard earned bitcoin. I am sure that most people here who discussed on this games definitely might have not spent anything on this scam attempt.

This could be another classic example on "not rushing to a new gambling house". I usually look for free credits before testing a new casino or even new games on my favourite houses. I expect the same from all other gamblers who visited this topic as well.

Anyhow, this seems exactly similar to what we had some 10 years back in the name of doubling. Honestly I never tried them even I did get regular promotions on them whenever I was visiting famous faucets. I wonder how I was able to restrict myself from testing them when 0.001 BTC was trading less than 1 dollar.

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I am sure that most people here who discussed on this games definitely might have not spent anything on this scam attempt.
I just looked up the address on a block explorer and it shows that the address didn't receive any transaction. So, you are right, no one has fallen for this.
As it was explained above, even if OP's intention wasn't to scam, the game itself is flawed: just wait for someone to deposit then generate a transaction hash starting with 2 and you'll be the winner. This is why no one should play this game even if he trusts the OP.

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May 27, 2024, 04:16:41 AM
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^^
I'm really shocked that there are already three pages of replies and no one've noticed this flaw until stompix pointed it out!

Probably because we knew it was a garbage gambling offer and that's why we didn't even stop to analyze how it works. Although, in view of stompix's explanation, it is not that much analysis was needed. I'm pretty sure that the OP is unlimitermoneyscammer. He doesn't post since the same day as him.

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May 27, 2024, 08:07:36 AM
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Probably because we knew it was a garbage gambling offer and that's why we didn't even stop to analyze how it works. Although, in view of stompix's explanation, it is not that much analysis was needed. I'm pretty sure that the OP is unlimitermoneyscammer. He doesn't post since the same day as him.
Agreed. I don't really know much about that technical stuff to be honest, but it's unnecessary in this context since it's pretty damn evident that op is just using fancy words to try and scam forum members.

Another dead giveaway of this being a scam is the word 'System' being used. Hilarious watching people still trying to scam members within this forum in this manner.

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May 27, 2024, 02:58:46 PM
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Nobody making a bet is a proof that bettors in Gambling ate low IQ.
Insulting people for not blindly trusting newbie anon is only red flag anyone would need. I've seen only scammers using this type of tactic, and funny enough, oddly defensive insulting before anyone has even said anything is either a sign of not a very bright scammer, or a sign of insecurity. In both cases, i will just roll my eyes for replies like this

You see this kind of negging tactics in dating sites done by sociopathic incels, so i guess it would work for someone who desperately needs respect from anon in the internet.

And stop spamming this thread several times per day. You can fit several answers to one message. Pumping this thread by yourself many times per day, like you did in May 23-24. That's against forum rules.

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Today at 12:26:57 AM
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0.001 BTC Reward 0.002 BTC - minus fees
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0.1 BTC Reward 0.2 BTC - minus fees
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Exemple:
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Now we have 2 senders and one will get all the balance using BTC entropy to select the winner.

How Bitcoin entropy selects the winner?
When sender 2 sends the amount will be created a transaction ID hash in the blockchain, if number 1 apears first in the transaction ID, the first depositor win the funds if number 2 apears first in the transaction ID hash the second depositor win the funds.


Exemple of first sender winner
Trasaction ID: 876be4406bdecad9a0b15f7506a2215b1a49ad91da3a24a21f9b4af58f84473d on this transaction ID number 1 apears first so the winner is sender one. 876be4406bdecad9a0b -1- 5f7506a2215b1a49ad91da3a24a21f9b4af58f84473d



Exemple of second sender winner
Trasaction ID: eaab3c2c8b173ece44cad0eb3d51cdccb523e7ef04e917a7ce5c3a949e6f084b on this transaction ID number 2 apears first so the winner is sender two. eaab3c -2- c8b173ece44cad0eb3d51cdccb523e7ef04e917a7ce5c3a949e6f084b.



*Only transactions with at least 1 confirmation are valid
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Bet in the Bitcoin entropy and compute the entropy of it!

Winner gets paid in the address used to send the bet
If you have enough IQ to understand the better odds that is this system than algorithms in gamble sites than-
 Lets make Gambex the top game here, try some inputs in this system and share you entropy on your inputs










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Today at 01:27:19 AM
 #54

- Gamblex -
Bitcoin Entropy Betting System

Double your money by just by sending BTC and let BTC entropy decide the winner
1GAMBLEXcvxj2jrGVVTbyLr5CCjo2x5hRn


Bet Sizes

0.0005 BTC Reward 0.001 BTC - minus fees
0.001 BTC Reward 0.002 BTC - minus fees
0.005 BTC Reward 0.010 BTC - minus fees
0.01 BTC Reward 0.02 BTC - minus fees
0.1 BTC Reward 0.2 BTC - minus fees
1 BTC Reward 2 BTC - minus fees



Exemple:
you send 0.001BTC to 1GAMBLEXcvxj2jrGVVTbyLr5CCjo2x5hRn than another sender sends 0.001BTC to 1GAMBLEXcvxj2jrGVVTbyLr5CCjo2x5hRn.
Now we have 2 senders and one will get all the balance using BTC entropy to select the winner.

How Bitcoin entropy selects the winner?
When sender 2 sends the amount will be created a transaction ID hash in the blockchain, if number 1 apears first in the transaction ID, the first depositor win the funds if number 2 apears first in the transaction ID hash the second depositor win the funds.


Exemple of first sender winner
Trasaction ID: 876be4406bdecad9a0b15f7506a2215b1a49ad91da3a24a21f9b4af58f84473d on this transaction ID number 1 apears first so the winner is sender one. 876be4406bdecad9a0b -1- 5f7506a2215b1a49ad91da3a24a21f9b4af58f84473d



Exemple of second sender winner
Trasaction ID: eaab3c2c8b173ece44cad0eb3d51cdccb523e7ef04e917a7ce5c3a949e6f084b on this transaction ID number 2 apears first so the winner is sender two. eaab3c -2- c8b173ece44cad0eb3d51cdccb523e7ef04e917a7ce5c3a949e6f084b.



*Only transactions with at least 1 confirmation are valid
*5% fee + Bitcoin network cost

All transactions can be audited on 1GAMBLEXcvxj2jrGVVTbyLr5CCjo2x5hRn via blockchain, all winners and transactions IDs will be updated here as proof concept.

Bet in the Bitcoin entropy and compute the entropy of it!

Winner gets paid in the address used to send the bet
If you have enough IQ to understand the better odds that is this system than algorithms in gamble sites than-
 Lets make Gambex the top game here, try some inputs in this system and share you entropy on your inputs


Low IQs

What happens if the numbers are in the same position? for example:

User 1 sends the transaction: 176be4406bdecad9a0b15f7506a2215b1a49ad91da3a24a21f9b4af58f84473d

User 2 sends the transaction: 2aab3c2c8b173ece44cad0eb3d51cdccb523e7ef04e917a7ce5c3a949e6f084b

Both transaction has the desired number in the same position, so, who wins the bet?

By the way, when you create a bitcoin transaction you can know the transaction id before broadcasting the transaction, if it doesn't have the number in the position you can create a new transaction for free until get the desired hash.

And one last question.

How can we trust in your betting engine? it would be easy for you to not pay the bets and walk away with the money.


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Today at 01:53:30 AM
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^^
I'm really shocked that there are already three pages of replies and no one've noticed this flaw until stompix pointed it out!

Probably because we knew it was a garbage gambling offer and that's why we didn't even stop to analyze how it works. Although, in view of stompix's explanation, it is not that much analysis was needed. I'm pretty sure that the OP is unlimitermoneyscammer. He doesn't post since the same day as him.

Poker Player, even if the OP is a scam.

He is correct about one thing,

Large low IQ, population.

This is Unlimited Money Generator's Alt

No need to even call me a scammer anymore, or associate me with any other accounts.

You will never see UMG, on bitcointalk forum, most users are not even smart enough to conceptualize it.

Poker Player stop associating me with accounts, you will know if it is me.

Likewise, no need to use this scammer word, because I am not selling anything on this forum anymore.

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