Big instutions and Banks have invested too much in Europe

[crwth]

From what I understand, your post is that the investments towards the EU are just driving the political decisions of different places. Pressuring countries that might have future conflicts if they have contact with each other or something. I do hope that somehow it would be transparent and be held accountable on what happens on the investments.

[iBaba]

For peace to reign both parties need to put up an argument or what they want and not just that they should also be ready to accept each others opinions and be willing to be live by some point made by the other country even if it is against what they believe in.

Peace is not the absence of grievance or faults but the ability to see through them and accept one another.

I think peace is still very possible but the support game should be dropped and rather in the interest of the world we all try to put peace between both countries.

I almost agree with your opinion, although it's challenging to achieve, given the intricacies involved. Based on my study of the scenario, I believe Vladimir Putin would never agree to NATO's establishment in Ukraine. He perceives NATO as spies infiltrating the country, which is why he's seemingly against it.

In my view, Ukraine should refrain from arming itself and realize that international support, even from NATO members, may wane, leaving each country to fend for itself. The countries involved in the conflict have their own national interests at heart, rather than a genuine concern for Ukraine's peace.

Therefore, Ukraine must make diplomatic decisions and avoid escalating tensions, as resorting to arms will only worsen the situation. Ukraine being able to win over Russia would be akin to the David and Goliath story.

[Argoo]

both are attacking each other, Moscow was even hit. they are at war.
we are talking about after the war started. after the war started, it's not up to Putin anymore. this is not stopping anymore until Ukraine has no weapons as they call it demilitarization.  when the war hasn't started yet they can negotiate and stop the war. all Putin asked for was No NATO membership.

Ukraine did not shell Russian territory until the full-scale attack on it in February 2022 and even in the first year of this war. But the Russian occupation forces cannot be stopped unless Ukraine destroys military factories, military units, airfields from which bombers take off and fly to Ukraine, oil refineries that supply troops with fuel and everything that helps Putin’s Russia attack Ukraine. Therefore, having established its own production of drones, Ukraine is now also actively destroying military installations on the territory of Russia itself.

Negotiate with Putin and his entourage, who have already included four Ukrainian regions and the Crimean peninsula as territories in their Constitution. which are part of Russia is meaningless. And even if Ukraine makes these territorial concessions, the war will not stop and there will still be no peace. Putin is accustomed to regard any concessions as a sign of weakness, and therefore he will want to seize all of Ukraine. Therefore, in Ukraine there is no other way than to defend our freedom and independence with arms in hand.

Anyone who wants peace in Ukraine through its territorial concessions to Russia can offer Putin the territory of their country. I think Putin will not refuse this. But whether he will stop after this is the second question. You can take his word for it, but he never kept his promises. This is evidenced by the experience of the ten-year war in Ukraine.

[Ozero]

I almost agree with your opinion, although it's challenging to achieve, given the intricacies involved. Based on my study of the scenario, I believe Vladimir Putin would never agree to NATO's establishment in Ukraine. He perceives NATO as spies infiltrating the country, which is why he's seemingly against it.

In my view, Ukraine should refrain from arming itself and realize that international support, even from NATO members, may wane, leaving each country to fend for itself. The countries involved in the conflict have their own national interests at heart, rather than a genuine concern for Ukraine's peace.

Therefore, Ukraine must make diplomatic decisions and avoid escalating tensions, as resorting to arms will only worsen the situation. Ukraine being able to win over Russia would be akin to the David and Goliath story.

Why should Ukraine, when choosing its foreign policy course and global security system, take into account the opinion of Putin or another ruler of Russia? Ukraine's mistake was that it was too trusting. Under guarantees from Russia and other countries of non-aggression and assistance, Ukraine abandoned the world's third most powerful nuclear weapon, and even transferred its military aircraft, missiles and other weapons to the same Russia. The production capacity in Ukraine is sufficient to produce any weapons ourselves and not ask for them from others, as now, when Ukraine was deceived by the same Russia.

To refrain from resisting with weapons means complete capitulation and the cessation of existence as an independent state and Ukrainians as a nation. And this also means harsh terror in the occupied territories with further massive and constant killings of Ukrainians using various methods. No thanks. Ukraine will continue to resist with or without the help of the United States and other states.