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January 25, 2024, 07:05:14 PM
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Talking with someone that is Muslim yesterday, it was suggested to me that many Muslims 
I think custom and traditionals speaks more often compared to religion. Like in some countries, a lot of traditions dislike the idea of gambling as it seems to them as irresponsible acts that can disrupt their way of life. If speaking from the side of religion, you will find out that most religious persons don't even obey such rules any more. Both Christians and Muslims laws are against gambling but percentage of people found gambling are of both religions. It all depends on the persons own belief. If he thinks that he's going against his religious beliefs then he will stay away but if he feels that it's not a sin then he will gamble without thinking twice. Gambling shouldn't be something we debate on weather religion or not. If we take it as it was define, that is as a means of having fun. I see no reason why we shouldn't gamble.

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January 25, 2024, 10:52:24 PM
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So what do you think about this? Does gambling with crypto mean that laws about gambling being Haram don't apply all the time?
I was thinking that of crypto is earned outside of one's regular job, for example as a reward for activities such as bounties or sweepstakes, then maybe gambling with these earnings insta Haram?

There will be no proper argument about that. Aside from that topic being unethical to talk about or discuss, especially between gambling and religion, the cycle of repeated arguments will never end since the source of all responses will based on people's respective religions.

To make it short, just follow our religion's view towards gambling be it as an official law or a traditional approach. If planning to do something that is against the religion's book, then just make sure to be ready for consequences. In today's generation of gambling, we will notice gamblers from different religions regardless if gambling is prohibited or not based on their respective religions.
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January 25, 2024, 11:05:54 PM
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I think custom and traditionals speaks more often compared to religion. Like in some countries, a lot of traditions dislike the idea of gambling as it seems to them as irresponsible acts that can disrupt their way of life. If speaking from the side of religion, you will find out that most religious persons don't even obey such rules any more. Both Christians and Muslims laws are against gambling but percentage of people found gambling are of both religions. It all depends on the persons own belief. If he thinks that he's going against his religious beliefs then he will stay away but if he feels that it's not a sin then he will gamble without thinking twice. Gambling shouldn't be something we debate on weather religion or not. If we take it as it was define, that is as a means of having fun. I see no reason why we shouldn't gamble.

The gambler who had huge interest towards the gambling will not consider about the religion and they never say no based on the religion.In the Islamic community it’s hard to accept the gambling.Still some of the people from Islamic also do the gambling without the knowledge of their friends in secret.The most devoted religious person of the Muslim community will follow the rules of their religion,but I had come across some of the Muslim even lend the money for the interest.Interest also against the religion belief,So gambling also against the religious beliefs.The playing gambling was based on the individual mindset.
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January 26, 2024, 01:14:35 AM
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The gambler who had huge interest towards the gambling will not consider about the religion and they never say no based on the religion.In the Islamic community it’s hard to accept the gambling.Still some of the people from Islamic also do the gambling without the knowledge of their friends in secret.The most devoted religious person of the Muslim community will follow the rules of their religion,but I had come across some of the Muslim even lend the money for the interest.Interest also against the religion belief,So gambling also against the religious beliefs.The playing gambling was based on the individual mindset.
From this I guess religion can't hold someone from gambling. That's obvious because we cannot say now that religious people don't gamble. Because like I said before, percentage of people who gamble are religious and if religion is to restrict people from gambling, then maybe there will be a few gamblers, which I don't think will be possible.
All that matters is how you see and think about it. If I don't have a belief that what I'm doing is wrong then that's for me as it won't be a sin. I've seen some Muslim friends who goes out together to play on some bet store. Although, their religious leader will not be able to tell if they are into such act but if these persons had seen it as a sin then maybe they might have never started gambling in first place.

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January 26, 2024, 01:56:36 AM
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Even though a gambler knows that he has carried out activities that are contrary to religion by entering the world of gambling, if someone is already addicted or has a hobby of gambling, in my opinion such reasons cannot stop his gambling activities and it is possible that he will continue to do it until he feels bored and tired.
Because if a gambler is happy and comfortable with his activities then whatever the reason or whatever the reason is, he cannot make him aware or stop him unless he truly understands the impact of risks and deviations in religion.

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January 26, 2024, 07:43:29 AM
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It is interesting and hard to understand where religion, gambling, and cryptocurrencies all come together. Muslim countries have strict rules about gambling or don't allow it at all. However, people may be able to gamble secretly with cryptocurrency.

In Islamic banking, you can't gamble or charge interest. Some people, even experts, might have different thoughts on what these ideas mean. Since cryptocurrency activities are private, it is hard to keep track of and regulate them without a central authority. Persons could gamble this way without drawing attention to themselves or going against their faith beliefs.

It may be against Islamic Sharia to use cryptocurrency for gaming in some ways. We could closely examine where the money comes from and what people do to win Bitcoin in games or bounty hunts.

Muslims may have different ideas about these things, and some may not like Bitcoin games. As communities change, people fight about how well money, technology, and faith can all work together.

How people of different religions deal with gambling issues shows how they mix faith with modern life, which is different from some Christian communities.
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January 26, 2024, 01:10:41 PM
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It is interesting and hard to understand where religion, gambling, and cryptocurrencies all come together. Muslim countries have strict rules about gambling or don't allow it at all. However, people may be able to gamble secretly with cryptocurrency.

In Islamic banking, you can't gamble or charge interest. Some people, even experts, might have different thoughts on what these ideas mean. Since cryptocurrency activities are private, it is hard to keep track of and regulate them without a central authority. Persons could gamble this way without drawing attention to themselves or going against their faith beliefs.

It may be against Islamic Sharia to use cryptocurrency for gaming in some ways. We could closely examine where the money comes from and what people do to win Bitcoin in games or bounty hunts.

Muslims may have different ideas about these things, and some may not like Bitcoin games. As communities change, people fight about how well money, technology, and faith can all work together.

How people of different religions deal with gambling issues shows how they mix faith with modern life, which is different from some Christian communities.
The Islamic religion itself prohibits drinking and gambling. gambling here in the sense of activity. So any form that leads to gambling is definitely prohibited. Whether you use fiat or crypto, it's still gambling. Even banks now have sharia banks that prioritize Islamic sharia systems. and it is actually intended for Muslims, but even if you are not Muslim, you can still use it.

So the point is that it is not just gambling in fiat that is prohibited, but all activities that involve gambling. In this case it depends on each individual. want to follow the directions of the Islamic religion or deviate from its teachings.

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January 26, 2024, 06:28:53 PM
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It is interesting and hard to understand where religion, gambling, and cryptocurrencies all come together. Muslim countries have strict rules about gambling or don't allow it at all. However, people may be able to gamble secretly with cryptocurrency.

In Islamic banking, you can't gamble or charge interest. Some people, even experts, might have different thoughts on what these ideas mean. Since cryptocurrency activities are private, it is hard to keep track of and regulate them without a central authority. Persons could gamble this way without drawing attention to themselves or going against their faith beliefs.

It may be against Islamic Sharia to use cryptocurrency for gaming in some ways. We could closely examine where the money comes from and what people do to win Bitcoin in games or bounty hunts.

Muslims may have different ideas about these things, and some may not like Bitcoin games. As communities change, people fight about how well money, technology, and faith can all work together.

How people of different religions deal with gambling issues shows how they mix faith with modern life, which is different from some Christian communities.
The contrast is stark: Islamic banking emphasises ethics over profit and bans gambling and interest. The rising world of cryptocurrency offers a maze of options, including gambling, challenging these old norms

Gambling can coexist with a healthy, balanced lifestyle if done carefully and within fair limitations. Self-control and moderation are important. Blockchain-based gambling allows people to gamble without social stigma or religious conflict. Instead of breaking religious rules, we're integrating new technologies into our lives while respecting culture. We must be open to debates about how faith, finance, and technology may coexist in an ever-changing world to create a healthy balance that respects both historical and modern perspectives

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 Islamic religion is highly respected worldwide, much like Christianity. Among adherents, Muslims are particularly known for their commitment to their faith. In today's rapidly changing world, technology has become pervasive, transforming many aspects of our lives from physical to digital.

If a religion prohibits gambling but its followers are technologically savvy and enjoy exploring new methods, it may be challenging to prevent them from doing so. Ultimately, the extent to which individuals adhere to religious teachings depends on their reverence for their religious leaders and their commitment to following commandments.

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Even though a gambler knows that he has carried out activities that are contrary to religion by entering the world of gambling, if someone is already addicted or has a hobby of gambling, in my opinion such reasons cannot stop his gambling activities and it is possible that he will continue to do it until he feels bored and tired.
Because if a gambler is happy and comfortable with his activities then whatever the reason or whatever the reason is, he cannot make him aware or stop him unless he truly understands the impact of risks and deviations in religion.
Understand the system, and do everything to cope with the system at all cost. We become who we are today because we have quite different targets to meet up in life, we don't have the tendency to explore more than our limits, we're in existence for survival. An addicted gambler knows what he's doing, he goes into the system with his full chest and at the end of the day, he ends up either in massive profits or heavy losses. Gambling is not for everyone, we know how this space operates, always favors those that are steadily wagering on the game and patient enough for their time.

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Islamic religion is highly respected worldwide, much like Christianity. Among adherents, Muslims are particularly known for their commitment to their faith. In today's rapidly changing world, technology has become pervasive, transforming many aspects of our lives from physical to digital.

If a religion prohibits gambling but its followers are technologically savvy and enjoy exploring new methods, it may be challenging to prevent them from doing so. Ultimately, the extent to which individuals adhere to religious teachings depends on their reverence for their religious leaders and their commitment to following commandments.
With current technological developments, everyone can maintain the privacy of their gambling as long as they do it online, not by going to a gambling place, because online gambling, everyone can play as long as they don't play in public places, of course people won't know about it and whatever their religious background, no one will know about it. However, for those who are committed to the rules of their respective religions, they will certainly obey the rules in their religion and for those who think this is normal as long as we can still control ourselves, gambling will continue to play and they will set limits. themselves depending on their beliefs in their respective religions.

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It's very difficult to explain when you enter the realm of religion, because this is very sensitive for certain groups of people. As far as I know about Islamic law, gambling is haram. If someone who adheres to Islam still gambles regularly, that is a matter between him and his God. Crypto is a tool, just like fiat money. As long as it is not used for activities that conflict with religious teachings, it is permitted. But if it is used in a place that is contrary to religious teachings, it is not permitted.

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Yes, that's what people do when they want to gamble, where they will only check the regulations of their country even though it is clear in their religion that gambling is clearly prohibited and should not be done. But these people don't care about it and instead gamble more and more often. We also cannot blame those who gamble and violate religious prohibitions because that will be each person's responsibility. If they could realize this, there might be a drastic reduction in the number of gamblers who frequently gamble because many of them decided to stop gambling because they felt they had violated the rules of their religion. But that might be less likely because people who are already gambling have found pleasure in gambling so they will continue to gamble. And when times progress further, perhaps more people will not pay attention to this because they can get entertainment from gambling games.

And only a wise attitude that each person needs to have so that they can know what they have to do. If they still want to gamble, they will continue, but if they feel uncomfortable gambling, they will decide to stop gambling. It will depend on each person to decide. Meanwhile, we cannot force them to stop their gambling activities.
Government regulations will be much more real and can be felt if they are violated because the laws that will apply will also be in accordance with the provisions in the law, this will be very different from laws or prohibitions in religion.
Moreover, many people will continue to violate it because in reality prohibition or rule is made to be broken and no one can avoid it.
In government regulations that clearly have real punishments, there are still many people who are negligent and violate them, especially regarding religious laws that will only be given consequences based on their respective beliefs.
In the country I live in and even in several other countries, gambling is an activity that is prohibited and has many quite strict rules, but in reality there are still many of us who are gambling fans and we can still freely access gambling sites because there are several individuals who receive special taxes for gambling.
The prohibition on gambling is just written prohibition and all of this will continue to happen forever so that gambling becomes an activity that cannot be completely avoided by everyone in all countries.

Gambling will not always be detrimental and will not always make other people feel the impact because it all depends on the attitude have in implementing gambling.
Whether it good or bad depends on the mindset and how the gambler himself has sense of responsibility and care for himself.

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January 30, 2024, 06:51:49 AM
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I think custom and traditionals speaks more often compared to religion. Like in some countries, a lot of traditions dislike the idea of gambling as it seems to them as irresponsible acts that can disrupt their way of life. If speaking from the side of religion, you will find out that most religious persons don't even obey such rules any more. Both Christians and Muslims laws are against gambling but percentage of people found gambling are of both religions. It all depends on the persons own belief. If he thinks that he's going against his religious beliefs then he will stay away but if he feels that it's not a sin then he will gamble without thinking twice. Gambling shouldn't be something we debate on weather religion or not. If we take it as it was define, that is as a means of having fun. I see no reason why we shouldn't gamble.
Religion doesn't say much about gambling and, I will continue to say this I don't see anything wrong with gambling does that think gambling is bad is not even by force it is a matter of choice you don't want to gamble then don't gamble. and continents like Asia and many more gamble a lot and sometimes not even about the money but sometimes for the fun of it you see families everyone gathered and gambling. and some people will make funny topics about how gambling is bad and nobody should gamble. and what if I win a jackpot from gambling and I decide to give them money let's see if they will collect or they will reject it. there is nothing in the law that says you should not gamble. and fun plus money because just trying to predict a game to win money does not look like a sin to me.

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January 30, 2024, 06:55:44 AM
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It's very difficult to explain when you enter the realm of religion, because this is very sensitive for certain groups of people. As far as I know about Islamic law, gambling is haram. If someone who adheres to Islam still gambles regularly, that is a matter between him and his God. Crypto is a tool, just like fiat money. As long as it is not used for activities that conflict with religious teachings, it is permitted. But if it is used in a place that is contrary to religious teachings, it is not permitted.
that's right as you said. Even in Islam it's not the money that matters. Whether you use money that is legal in that country or use crypto, gambling is still illegal. If someone has a religion, especially Islam, it is their own personal matter and their sins are also their own responsibility. What is clear is that religion prohibits this.

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Government regulations will be much more real and can be felt if they are violated because the laws that will apply will also be in accordance with the provisions in the law, this will be very different from laws or prohibitions in religion.
Moreover, many people will continue to violate it because in reality prohibition or rule is made to be broken and no one can avoid it.
In government regulations that clearly have real punishments, there are still many people who are negligent and violate them, especially regarding religious laws that will only be given consequences based on their respective beliefs.
In the country I live in and even in several other countries, gambling is an activity that is prohibited and has many quite strict rules, but in reality there are still many of us who are gambling fans and we can still freely access gambling sites because there are several individuals who receive special taxes for gambling.
The prohibition on gambling is just written prohibition and all of this will continue to happen forever so that gambling becomes an activity that cannot be completely avoided by everyone in all countries.

Gambling will not always be detrimental and will not always make other people feel the impact because it all depends on the attitude have in implementing gambling.
Whether it good or bad depends on the mindset and how the gambler himself has sense of responsibility and care for himself.
That is why the government tries to tighten its regulations if the government is a country that prohibits gambling so that people don't play. But even though there is a ban, it doesn't stop people from continuing to gamble, especially those who are used to gambling, who will look for underground casinos. And this underground casino will always be busy with people who want to gamble secretly. They are not afraid of the ban and still visit the casino because they are very used to gambling at the casino. And there is some protection from corrupt authorities to protect casinos from being tracked by authorities in their efforts to enforce regulations and laws. And the existence of physical casinos makes it even easier for gamblers to gamble because they can play from home without anyone knowing, so the ban is just a ban that doesn't mean anything to them because they don't visit physical casinos either.

As long as people can use gambling as entertainment, they will not experience any problems or impacts. But what happens is that people think about making money from gambling so that's what gets a lot of people into trouble. And the number of people will increase if they do not have self-control and a sense of responsibility towards themselves.

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If a religion prohibits gambling but its followers are technologically savvy and enjoy exploring new methods, it may be challenging to prevent them from doing so. Ultimately, the extent to which individuals adhere to religious teachings depends on their reverence for their religious leaders and their commitment to following commandments.
It is a choice of the person doing so, religion attempted to stop people from following a wrong path before scientific reasons could be found. Today it will known that addiction in gambling is a pathological condition and needs treatment and hence the religious words of gambling being a sin is still correct. It does not mean that religion is always correct but in this case it definitely was.

Now to follow it or not is the choice of the gambler. If someone tries to restrict them, and the gambler wants to play, nobody can stop the latter in this world of technology.

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These concepts are interesting to me because most Christian people like me, while having our religion dictate that gambling is a very serious sin, most do it anyway. Basically most christians aren't very pious at all and don't follow religion rules at least in my experience. So using loopholes to circumvent religious rules when your country even endorsed certain casinos isn't needed that much. So it's interesting to observe these differences.
According to religious doctrine expecially Christianity, they believe that gambling is a sin. And the reason I see why they called it a sin is that gambling always come with a force that drives you crazy as to do unthinkable things. Emagine people who are addicted to gambling always find it difficult to pull themself out. Because it's like being possessed with something that makes you not to act normal is like a spiritual force. So not actually that al Gamblers are possessed but why they don't like it is that it is always a gradual process which you don't know where the end will lead you to.

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