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May 15, 2024, 12:11:01 PM
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The reason why people can not defend themselfes and often let manipulate them because they don't act Independent ways they always wait for advice from some one else someone higher someone better.
The elite don't want to mess with Independent thinkers so they avoid with all Cost because it can hurt their own back in real life.
That's why slave owners put those people in high positions and in wealthy positions even If they got no enough skills but they might be brutal enough so it's better to make sure they do well in life.
Because when you attack soft people they not gona search you but the wrong people they might even visit you while are with your family so that's why elite want to be sure society cruel and and stronger ones will survive so the stronger ones and who really can step up against justice Will be busy making a lot money.
That's why they let the homeless people in USA  to be on the Streets to show society that only strong will survive and any weakness will make end up with nothing
So that's why the society need to be not about caring but fighting over money and jobs Because If society will be little more soft the stronger ones might start to protect weaker ones but If everybody will be busy of survive then the top slave owners don't need to worry about.
Society can be saved only by stronger ones and elite must assure stronger ones often criminals Will do well and they don't want to ask questions.
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May 15, 2024, 02:39:08 PM
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I have another situation that reflects some of the similarities in epidemics like before the advent of anti-disease drugs, before that our lives had to be through illness to the point where we couldn't bear it stand up and find a way to fix it. And I also know that sooner or later, diseases like cancer will find a cure. Returning to the social problem of oppression, tolerance will also reach its limits, some lessons from the struggles against evil in society to achieve peace and independence, but before still having to go through oppression.
It is a common sense that balance exists just that each different moment in society shows us the perspective in which we live.









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May 15, 2024, 03:10:23 PM
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If you read the history of human, they always lived as a group for example let's take a tribe there will be someone who will be in the charge of every decision making and the same mentality still persist but in completely different form.

And I don't agree with strong and weak, the only difference is rich and poor and the survival majorly depends on the financial status not the mental status.









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May 16, 2024, 05:28:51 PM
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For me they get manipulated because of two reason, it is either they are ignorant or they are afraid of the power so even if they know that they are being manipulated they wouldn't do anything.
We also have those people who couldn't decide on their own so they let other people dictates them, or be easily swayed by the people around them, those people would act or think depending on who are around them.



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May 16, 2024, 06:04:06 PM
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No one will come out boldly in saying that he does not understand the difference between good or bad, the problem that is involved here is the issue with money, as long as money is involved, people are unpredictable, they can tend to go to any extent in achieving a purpose not minding whether good or bad or having another thought on the implication of doing such thing, all these are part of the reasons why some believed money to be the root of all evil.



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May 16, 2024, 08:31:56 PM
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Well you can not say they allow their leaders manipulate them but it's the way our society is structured so the poor masses can't do anything to defend themselves but only with the high and mighty in society so they can use it to gain some point and popularity in society
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May 16, 2024, 08:50:59 PM
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No one will come out boldly in saying that he does not understand the difference between good or bad, the problem that is involved here is the issue with money, as long as money is involved, people are unpredictable, they can tend to go to any extent in achieving a purpose not minding whether good or bad or having another thought on the implication of doing such thing, all these are part of the reasons why some believed money to be the root of all evil.
Money and power is the two determinant factors that drive individual perception of life, and sometimes we may fine ourselves at a crossroads between choosing to do what is right and fair to others or fulfilling our lost for ego pride and self centredness, this are major factors that determine what exist in the society.

Above that the high rate of corruption and how deep it has eaten into our society, individuals and system, it make it hard to have a just and fair society even within the family which should have been a small cycle.

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May 16, 2024, 09:57:38 PM
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Well you can not say they allow their leaders manipulate them but it's the way our society is structured so the poor masses can't do anything to defend themselves but only with the high and mighty in society so they can use it to gain some point and popularity in society
people in the society actually make use of their people to manipulate whatever thing they want in politics so it must be a follower before you can be a leader in politics and that is mentality of people or do participate in politics so your leader must to manipulate you and you must be loyal at least 100% for you achieve what you want in politics
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We as employees are the modern slaves, they buy our times and services in exchange of the salaries that we're receiving. And for us not to leave them because we generate money for them, they give incentives, bonuses and promotions. As they say, you've got job security and probably will be set for life for being employed. But you will miss the lot of joy and gatherings and memories with your loved ones.

But this is the reality of life that we have to sacrifice for those memorable times if you can't keep it up. There are leaders political and private companies that do give the honor to the simple people and employees like us as they appreciate our hardwork. It all depends to the leaders that we're having and I am out with the hopes of relying to the leaders although they're the actual driver of our economies.

That's why I have set it on my mind that I have to work for myself, and not for the leaders so that my family will be with me wherever I go. Although indirectly, I have the contribution to whether the leader is good or not. That's another reality that we can't remove because in political systems that we're living in, we cannot change it anymore on what's with the system that we've used to have.

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I believe you are talking about social darwinism and you are also adding some elements of how power alledgely works within the structure of social darwinism.
Though, even though there are people who indeed believe social darwinism exists and it is a desirable trait of society to keep things going along with the status quo, others will instead give their negative opinion on the establishment of a society based on the survival of the fittest.
Would be suitable to use a theory which is mostly applied to animal societies to us, who are human beings? I don't think so. Animals are only driven by their instinct and their pushing for survival, while we are also pushed by our survival instinct, but we also have a developed mind and sense of self-awareness. The structure of social darwinism is also incompatible with many of the political views associated with the left wing.

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I believe you are talking about social darwinism and you are also adding some elements of how power alledgely works within the structure of social darwinism.
Though, even though there are people who indeed believe social darwinism exists and it is a desirable trait of society to keep things going along with the status quo, others will instead give their negative opinion on the establishment of a society based on the survival of the fittest.
Would be suitable to use a theory which is mostly applied to animal societies to us, who are human beings? I don't think so. Animals are only driven by their instinct and their pushing for survival, while we are also pushed by our survival instinct, but we also have a developed mind and sense of self-awareness. The structure of social darwinism is also incompatible with many of the political views associated with the left wing.

Yes your are right, The fact that most people help leaders to do wrong means that, most people want them to enjoy unfair benefits from their leaders which in fact most of the time people get from leaders. It seems to me that these are the social policies of every country, even if people say good things socially, they do them again.

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For me they get manipulated because of two reason, it is either they are ignorant or they are afraid of the power so even if they know that they are being manipulated they wouldn't do anything.
We also have those people who couldn't decide on their own so they let other people dictates them, or be easily swayed by the people around them, those people would act or think depending on who are around them.

Lol... This is funny but actually true, most people are volunteering manipulated too because everyone one has a choice of what to do and this set of people literally do everything they are being told, maybe because the are being bribe or they want to be seen as a good person or wants to gain favour in their sight.

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I don't think that people will ordinarily allow others to manipulate them, it's either that they're brainwashed or they're forced to accept what the manipulators wants. People in countries where they have dictators as leaders or where elections are rigged and people who are not voted for entering power, it's not that the people don't know their rights, it's because they don't have the powers to confront and oppose these bad leaders. Who can blame people in these backward countries, if you oppose the government, bad things can happen to you, you can be jailed or executed. Until every country in this world begins to practice true democracy, oppression and corruption will still continue.

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The reason why people can not defend themselfes and often let manipulate them because they don't act Independent ways they always wait for advice from some one else someone higher someone better.
People tend to think that those in higher position are untouchable and flawless. They think that they don’t make mistakes because they idolize them too much. They have to realize that these people in higher positions do in fact make mistakes from time to time and sometimes even with a lower position, you can correct someone with a higher position.

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Talking about stronger ones and soft ones, I want to mention that the strength isn’t just about physical strength. The strength involves mental resilience and persistence. Many people give up too easily. Just a little hurdle and they quit. Many poor people are people who gave up because I believe that life tries to throw opportunities and when you don’t see it coming, you go get it.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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I would like to give example of India which is considered as world's largest democracy wherein the prime minister's hand is blood soaked as he has killed thousands of Muslims and openly gives speech against Muslims and always tries creating communal roit by saying the majority population Hindus are in danger in order to remain in power and people knows that he is not good for nation but still votes for Hindu in fear that if he loses then Hindus will be in dangers and that's how leaders manipulate people by creating sense of fear.









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