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June 02, 2024, 05:56:08 AM
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Have anyone ever had confidence in any match that he was willing to be huge amounts to back up the confidence in a match that features his club. A friend of mine recently shocked me with how much passion and confidence he had in his club, man u vs liverpool  that happened on Sunday I guess was a very hard match cause Liverpool was already stomping 0:2 to man United but my friend was telling that man United won't lose the match, so I told him that if he has much confidence that he should stake life, shocking to me he went on and staked 5k on man United win to qualify which was about 7 odds at that time, and yeah it turned out right for him. Can any one do this or was it a foolish move?
I think I can, under certain circumstances that is.

The thing is It's easy to be so confident to your team that you're just willing to bet on them even when you know they are going to lose, to me that's not how things go and matter of fact, a loser's way of dealing with things. A true fan knows his team's strengths and weaknesses, including which teams' his club is stronger, or which ones they are more likely to kick the dirt and weep. I can make a bet with them in full confidence if I know just how strong they are, similar to how your friend right there made the bet, he knew that there's no way his team is going to lose despite the overwhelming odds, he made bank on this information and he profited off of it. Similarly, if I have sufficient knowledge of what my team is capable of, I might be able to do something similar as well.

I have made bets on certain eSports games where the situations are dire, last year I made a bet on T1 winning the League of Legends Championship series despite the fact that they started from the bottom of the ladder, and every other team is losing against this one Chinese powerhouse. Since I know this year's been their strongest, and they never lose against Chinese teams, at least during the competition proper, I made a solid bet.

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June 02, 2024, 06:05:07 AM
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Can any one do this or was it a foolish move?
Though I can't really call it foolish move because gambling is a risk which you either win or lose. Whosoever that is not a risk taker can never gamble, though it was a more risky game because from your explanation man united was already losing 0:2 to Liverpool that is why it was possible for the man united odd to have increased to 7odd otherwise it will have reduced to maybe 1.10 odd if man united was wining. So the higher the risk the higher the amount in return.
Yes, gambling is just a game of winning or losing at your favorite club. For some people, there are still a lot of people who are confident about betting on their favorite team, especially if they have a match or their opponent is below them in the standings. Who statistically perform far above their team, of course they are very optimistic and confident enough to bet their money that their team will win against their opponent. The opportunity to win will always be there for anyone, but in a football game anything can happen and no one can predict who the winner will be.
Every football fan will definitely do the same thing, especially if they are fans of strong team and always dominate the competition, of course courage will always appear in betting on their proud team.
It just that for me personally I won't bet everything I have on the favorite team, there will be lot of consideration and also looking at the chances of getting the right odds because not everything will go as expected.
Moreover, betting on clear favorite team with superior performance can give full confidence in achieving victory, this can give you confidence in the courage to bet more.

But unfortunately for this season there have been some very annoying incidents where for certain competitions there were team that were favorites and clearly had much better performance getting results that were not suitable, they suffered defeats to team with lower performance.

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June 02, 2024, 06:12:38 AM
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You friend was just lucky. But what I can deduce from this is that he is an amateur gambler and if he continues in this part he is going to lose a lot of money in the long run.

It looks like he gambles on the whim. No proper analysis, no risk management strategies and all. I am not happy that he won because if he had lost he would have lost a valuable lesson. There is no lesson in winning rather it is going to motivate him to do it again. And lead him eventually to chasing losses.

Tell him to gamble responsibly.

It wasn't over confidence it was reckless.

If there is any other words I would have used than this your recklessness I won't hesitate, the guy is gambling on ignorance and such gambler is always a failure, this games is not one which over confidence on its foolishness and unwise taken such risk show high level of immature, those who runs into addiction is not far from this lifestyle of gambling this is the root of it when your playing without calculating or managing risk to the exist of life very unfortunate. What courses many losses of gamblers is so much confidence they one focus on wining and forget about the losses involved the guy need adjustment on such confidence because it can backfired.

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June 02, 2024, 06:40:09 AM
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Have anyone ever had confidence in any match that he was willing to be huge amounts to back up the confidence in a match that features his club. A friend of mine recently shocked me with how much passion and confidence he had in his club, man u vs liverpool  that happened on Sunday I guess was a very hard match cause Liverpool was already stomping 0:2 to man United but my friend was telling that man United won't lose the match, so I told him that if he has much confidence that he should stake life, shocking to me he went on and staked 5k on man United win to qualify which was about 7 odds at that time, and yeah it turned out right for him. Can any one do this or was it a foolish move?

To me I won't encourage such act , because that's sign of gambling irresponsibly,  going all in with your money is a really high risk and big sign of gambling irresponsibly. Is not bad to have confidence on your team , but still follow the principles of gambling what you can afford because anything can happen .

What if for instance he endup losing that money , that will be a huge set back for him now he will be thinking on how to get that amount back, but still he was lucky that the game actually went his way . The reason why gambling with what you can afford to lose is really important, is because no matter the way the gamble turn out to be , it won't be a big deal or it won't bother you much because if you endup losing, the money you lose is something you can afford to lose.

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June 02, 2024, 07:01:05 AM
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I'm not really a big fan of many clubs so I can't really say if I would be able to put an all in my bets on one of them because most of the time, not all fans make it big if they blindly bet on their favorite team or club if the opposing them is a real powerhouse. Maybe if I'm a diehard fan, I would probably put an all in bet on my favorite team knowing that there's a possibility that I might lose, it's just my way of supporting them after all, I think that it will be a form of betrayal to the team that I'm supporting. I really can't say much what I'd do, that stuff that I've just said is something that I've observed from my friends that are a big fan of a certain basketball team, even when the current standing is in favor with the opposing team, they're still putting in bets in the hopes that their favorite team will win.

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June 02, 2024, 08:54:26 AM
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Trusting your team is great. That has nothing to do with sensible betting. Remember that die-hard fans don't always win.  The beauty of games is that anything can happen. Being a "wise gambler," as you say, goes beyond identifying winners. Risk management, like a smart investor. You wouldn't invest your life money in one stock, right? Same with betting. Bet on numerous games and sorts of bets. That way, if one fails, you're not completely out.

Everyone's human. The thrill consumes us. Thus, setting boundaries before betting is essential. Treat it like an entertainment budget; determine your loss tolerance. Gamble for fun, not retirement.
That's why we don't have to bet with too much money because we knows that the results will not always wins. Even if we believes that our favorite team is one of the strong teams, we don't have to uses much money when placing the bet because the outcomes will be uncertainties. Becomes a wise gambler is something that we must do to avoids the problems that can occurs in gambling so we knows what we must do in gambling. When we can manages the risks behind of gambling, we will trying to prevents the big lose because once our money is lose, that will not be easy to gets it back. We must prevents the temptations from gambling so we don't gets deeper in gambling and we can only enjoy the gambling games as it was. We must considers to use gambling as an entertainment and not for a place to makes money.

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June 02, 2024, 09:04:31 AM
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I think your friend was having good luck that day, even though as we know, if we want to bet on sports betting, we have to pay attention to the odds and also the match statistics, whether they are good or not, indeed if someone loves their club too much they become blind and it is as if they are convinced that the club can win without looking at the match history so far, this is indeed an attitude of loyalty towards your favorite club. But if you risk everything, in my opinion, it is not a good thing because you can lose the money you have by just betting on a club that does not provide any benefits even if you win or lose because it is the one who loses also the club itself while we have to bear the losses caused by betting on them.

I think your friend's luck will not keep repeating itself and luck comes only at the right time and we don't expect it, so it's better if we just bet enough on our favorite club and don't need to risk everything even though you believe in your beliefs because we also we need to think about the risks we will bear if we risk it all.

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June 02, 2024, 09:07:25 AM
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To me I won't encourage such act , because that's sign of gambling irresponsibly,  going all in with your money is a really high risk and big sign of gambling irresponsibly. Is not bad to have confidence on your team , but still follow the principles of gambling what you can afford because anything can happen .

What if for instance he endup losing that money , that will be a huge set back for him now he will be thinking on how to get that amount back, but still he was lucky that the game actually went his way . The reason why gambling with what you can afford to lose is really important, is because no matter the way the gamble turn out to be , it won't be a big deal or it won't bother you much because if you endup losing, the money you lose is something you can afford to lose.
Going all in is also a part of gambling, but a risky one. It doesn't happen always and we don't see players who do it all the time. But, that's not the best form of gambling. Because, as you said a gambler can lose out lots of money in the process. Hence, doing it all the times is very risky. The few moments I've gone all in, wasn't as I expected. Yet, I could recall winning big out of spending all my bankroll on a single prediction. Still, I would point out that going all in is not all that right.

As it's a very addictive type of gambling. Most players who have gotten addicted to wagering all their bank roll always find themselves in a very critical type of gambling addiction. Players are supposed to be careful about this, not just because of their best club. I see gamblers make similar mistakes of picking their clubs despite knowing they'll lose the game and wager on them. Op's friend made a risky move, especially gambling on a losing team. On the long run, he was lucky, but I don't think he should make such moves next time. He could lose on the game.

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 I personally don't have the guts to stake huge amount of money into gambling just because I feel lucky that day. That is way too risky given that his friend might be just pressured and need to try to prove it and luckily he got lucky. That was actually a one time luck and I don't think he can do that again one tap.



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I absolutely agree with you. I am not that rich to bet even $1000 on one match, even if I am 70-80% sure that my bet will play. For me personally, $5000 is a lot of money, for which I need to work hard for more than one month. Therefore, no matter how big the probability of winning is, losing such money in one day seems very risky to me. $100-200 is enough for me to tickle my nerves in betting. Sometimes even after losing $100 I have doubts about the correctness of my decisions, but fortunately bad things are quickly forgotten.

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Have anyone ever had confidence in any match that he was willing to be huge amounts to back up the confidence in a match that features his club. A friend of mine recently shocked me with how much passion and confidence he had in his club, man u vs liverpool  that happened on Sunday I guess was a very hard match cause Liverpool was already stomping 0:2 to man United but my friend was telling that man United won't lose the match, so I told him that if he has much confidence that he should stake life, shocking to me he went on and staked 5k on man United win to qualify which was about 7 odds at that time, and yeah it turned out right for him. Can any one do this or was it a foolish move?
Your narration is not clear to me, was it Liverpool that was leading or Man U, to have warranted it to be deemed a tough bet since the Liverpool 0:2 Man U narration doesn't seem to be in coherence with what you later explained? I can't also recall watching this particular match with the way you explained it to have bailed myself out. Notwithstanding, I think I have the idea of the gist from the topic and some of what you wrote so let me reply to it directly. No one knows it all and my experience in risky activities has wisely hinted to me that we are never perfect, so even as confidence is good "Over"confidence is very bad, and we should steer clear of it.

Good, your friend made it this time, congratulations to him, but I tell you, he will fail many more times if he continues like this. Gambling has to be reasonably risked, and if at all he has so much confidence in his team or due to the love and support for the team, he could still gamble if he wanted, but it should have been with a very small amount of money to lessen the possible negative effect of the unreasonable risk. In my gambling escapades, I have never reached for the odd that is more than 3.0 to increase my chance of winning, and even seeing the odds that is 7.00 should speak volumes that Man U is at a disadvantage condition and would have automatically discouraged me.

Above all, let us gamble reasonably and responsibly, we should never allow our emotions or gut feelings to rule us whatsoever.


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June 02, 2024, 02:43:42 PM
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I personally don't have the guts to stake huge amount of money into gambling just because I feel lucky that day. That is way too risky given that his friend might be just pressured and need to try to prove it and luckily he got lucky. That was actually a one time luck and I don't think he can do that again one tap.
You know one thing, luck makes people feel as of they made the right decision, and it was because of the confidence that they had that made the bet to favor them, unknown to them that they were just lucky.

Like you said, I don't see gambling as something anyone need to have confidence on because it is not by our doings or skills but only luck, and this is why I don't gamble with huge amount of money so that I don't upset when I cannot control my emotions. If my club is weak and playing against a stronger club, I will bet against my club because I want to be a winner. Nobody will see something bad and go for it.

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I completely disagree with you about the fact that the skills of a gambler do not affect the outcome of gambling. Of course, if we talk about slots, it is enough to know only the principle of the game and rely on luck, but when playing poker or betting on sporting events depends on the skill of the gambler.

If this were not the case, then we would never have lists of the best gamblers of various tournaments. Instead, there would be lists of lucky gamblers who managed to win through luck. I think no one needs to explain that to get on such a list twice would be an almost impossible task.

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June 02, 2024, 07:04:46 PM
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A friend of mine recently shocked me with how much passion and confidence he had in his club, man u vs liverpool  that happened on Sunday I guess was a very hard match cause Liverpool was already stomping 0:2 to man United but my friend was telling that man United won't lose the match, so I told him that if he has much confidence that he should stake life, shocking to me he went on and staked 5k on man United win to qualify which was about 7 odds at that time, and yeah it turned out right for him. Can any one do this or was it a foolish move?
For the fact that he staked on his team to win even though the opposition was leading with 2 goals is wild, but that isn't a guarantee that he had too much trust. Atleast 60% of wins from sport games aren't always expected; that means you shouldn't base off your speculations on how well you understand the team's performance, but you should always try to play outside the box

I wouldn't also call it a foolish move as it delivered 100%. He just had the nerves to that most gamblers wouldn't have, and it worked for him. Personally, I would have played on the handicap/over goals options in that situation..

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June 02, 2024, 08:05:20 PM
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Yes I have realized that so many persons are so much confident on the match they have already stake, they always believe that they will win and sometimes it turns out the best for them, it really happens and they do take the action of taking all the risk to wait even some do see cash out in their game and they will because of the faith they have with the club and the energy they put into the club and they always make sure it turns out for good, sometimes it is really good to work with your mind and don’t put hope in other people.
Yes some persons are very confident when they make stakes or place bets. However the fact is that as long as it's gambling there is always a chance of winning or losing and that now depends on the things like the gambler's ability to analyze, his level of experience and even. How much luck he has on his side . I have come across some gamblers that can't bet against their team. They will rather wait for the time the feel their team will win before they place a bet rather than them to bet that their team will lose a bet.
The fact is that every gambler has their individual principles and level of discipline they put in concerning gambling activities. I t should not be much of a big deal as long as the gambler is not doing things that could drive him into addiction.

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June 02, 2024, 09:00:23 PM
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Yes I have realized that so many persons are so much confident on the match they have already stake, they always believe that they will win and sometimes it turns out the best for them, it really happens and they do take the action of taking all the risk to wait even some do see cash out in their game and they will because of the faith they have with the club and the energy they put into the club and they always make sure it turns out for good, sometimes it is really good to work with your mind and don’t put hope in other people.
Yes some persons are very confident when they make stakes or place bets. However the fact is that as long as it's gambling there is always a chance of winning or losing and that now depends on the things like the gambler's ability to analyze, his level of experience and even. How much luck he has on his side . I have come across some gamblers that can't bet against their team. They will rather wait for the time the feel their team will win before they place a bet rather than them to bet that their team will lose a bet.
The fact is that every gambler has their individual principles and level of discipline they put in concerning gambling activities. I t should not be much of a big deal as long as the gambler is not doing things that could drive him into addiction.

It is clear that gambling will never escape defeat or the possibility of losing, but when we have good enough skills and knowledge, especially about the world of sports, then yes we can increase our chances of winning, but there is still no certainty that you will be right. - really win because no matter what the possibility of losing is always there, or simply put, when you have skill the odds are 70: 30, and the 30$ is part of luck, in the sense that if luck doesn't help you in carrying out the betting session then of course the possibility of losing is still attached there, meaning that skill is something that can increase opportunities but cannot be used as a benchmark to ensure victory.

Basically anything can happen on the field, even though you are very sure that your favorite team has a greater chance of winning, and these unexpected things often happen in several ongoing competitions, especially football. In conclusion, even though for example you feel that you have good skills and also even though you feel that your favorite team is far superior to the opposing team, there are still issues regarding betting limits and also limiting expectations of winning that must still be applied during the session, because This is useful for minimizing the loss of significant amounts of money and also minimizing the possibility of regret.

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Last edit: June 02, 2024, 10:13:32 PM by Zadicar
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Yes I have realized that so many persons are so much confident on the match they have already stake, they always believe that they will win and sometimes it turns out the best for them, it really happens and they do take the action of taking all the risk to wait even some do see cash out in their game and they will because of the faith they have with the club and the energy they put into the club and they always make sure it turns out for good, sometimes it is really good to work with your mind and don’t put hope in other people.
Yes some persons are very confident when they make stakes or place bets. However the fact is that as long as it's gambling there is always a chance of winning or losing and that now depends on the things like the gambler's ability to analyze, his level of experience and even. How much luck he has on his side . I have come across some gamblers that can't bet against their team. They will rather wait for the time the feel their team will win before they place a bet rather than them to bet that their team will lose a bet.
The fact is that every gambler has their individual principles and level of discipline they put in concerning gambling activities. I t should not be much of a big deal as long as the gambler is not doing things that could drive him into addiction.
Sticking with your club or not, chance of losing would really be there. Sometimes there are really that bettors who are really that attaching their emotions and this is why they would really be that ending up on betting into their favorites despite of that disadvantage because they are really that wanting on doing so. Well, its not bad to choose up on what you do like but when it comes to gambling then
analysis and knowledge would really be always relevant. If you are willing to lose up money without minding it as long you do bet with your favorite club then it would really be your choice but if you are really that aiming for making profits or wanting to have money then you should really be wise on taking up a bet which is really that according into your analysis.

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June 04, 2024, 02:28:03 PM
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Maybe if I'm a diehard fan, I would probably put an all in bet on my favorite team knowing that there's a possibility that I might lose, it's just my way of supporting them after all, I think that it will be a form of betrayal to the team that I'm supporting. I really can't say much what I'd do, that stuff that I've just said is something that I've observed from my friends that are a big fan of a certain basketball team, even when the current standing is in favor with the opposing team, they're still putting in bets in the hopes that their favorite team will win.
That doesn't make much sense to me. How would your betting on your favourite team support them in any way? Do you think that clubs, their players, and their representatives go and check stats in sportsbooks whether their team has been picked by fans or not? The only support you can show to your team is the physical support that you show either by going to the stadium or doing it wherever you are, making bets on them wouldn't give them any support.

I have seen a lot of people saying and doing this but I don't understand why. It's not wise to make bets with unreasonable amounts of money on your favourite club only because you want to support them when you know that the chances of them winning are very low. If you can't bet against them, don't do it, but don't waste your money like that.

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June 05, 2024, 01:41:29 AM
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Maybe if I'm a diehard fan, I would probably put an all in bet on my favorite team knowing that there's a possibility that I might lose, it's just my way of supporting them after all, I think that it will be a form of betrayal to the team that I'm supporting. I really can't say much what I'd do, that stuff that I've just said is something that I've observed from my friends that are a big fan of a certain basketball team, even when the current standing is in favor with the opposing team, they're still putting in bets in the hopes that their favorite team will win.
That doesn't make much sense to me. How would your betting on your favourite team support them in any way? Do you think that clubs, their players, and their representatives go and check stats in sportsbooks whether their team has been picked by fans or not? The only support you can show to your team is the physical support that you show either by going to the stadium or doing it wherever you are, making bets on them wouldn't give them any support.

I have seen a lot of people saying and doing this but I don't understand why. It's not wise to make bets with unreasonable amounts of money on your favourite club only because you want to support them when you know that the chances of them winning are very low. If you can't bet against them, don't do it, but don't waste your money like that.

Well said. Exactly what I do say, I cannot support my team to the point of risking money on them when I know that they are underperforming and the possibility of them winning is very low, wether I win or loss it does not affect them because the players, team managers and officials will still get paid neither are they aware I placed a bet on them, I see it as a dumb attitude. My point though, everyone is entitled to there opinion.
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June 05, 2024, 05:25:23 AM
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I think that your friend must be a good focaster, that is why is always necessary as a gambler you are supposed to do some research before you placing a bet because if not that he do research on that game he would have not take that Risk even me self I also won with the game because he was among in My forecast that day so I single it with 2k so that's why always good as a gambler always do your research very well before you conclude.

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