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June 13, 2024, 08:26:40 PM
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Hansi Flick must currently feel a bit light with the tasks given by Barcelona management, but we have to know that Barcelona management will definitely put very high pressure on Hansi Flick. just like they did to Xavi when he was still coach of Barcelona. The strategy that Hansi Flick will use is still very much a secret and maybe we will only find out during the La Liga matches next season.
I don't think it's too easy because management will definitely demand that Handy Flick provide the best results for Barcelona.
With financial conditions that are not yet very stable and using the strengths of existing players, it will make it difficult for him to compete with rivals. Moreover, currently Real Madrid has extraordinary strength with the arrival of Mbappe into the squad next season. Handy Flick's task of bringing Barcelona to the pinnacle of glory is not easy because now there are many other teams who are building strength for next season.
Yes, that is the wish of every managements seeing their team winning and it is the responsibility of the manager to provide a good result for the management to see and confirm that they have potential manager, who can take the team to her next level which is what Barcelona managements are expecting from their manager next season. I don't think, Barcelona performance in this season is poor,  because they tried their best to make sure they corrected the errors that occurred in the half of the tournament to became second position at the end of the la Liga league tournament, and it make many people to believed that Barcelona will perform better next season. I think, Barcelona will going to prepare well like Real Madrid, if their managements can allow the manager to bring in new players that can strengthen the team to make sure what happened last season that made Barcelona to win the title happen next season.

I wouldn't say that Barcelona's performance was good last season. Only Barcelona and Real Madrid compete for the La Liga title. Other groups lag far behind these two groups. However, Girona's excellent performance last season surprised us all.

However, Barcelona need a stronger squad if they want to dominate La Liga next season. Currently, if you compare the teams between Madrid and Barca, Barcelona will be far behind. I look forward to seeing what steps Flick takes to strengthen this team. Hansi Flick is a very experienced coach.
No other step would Hansi Flick bring into the Barcelona team than asking the management board to help him and sign new players if really they want the Barcelona team to have a fantastic season, lift a trophy or appear at the top of the Laliga table at the end of each season, and be able to compete with Real Madrid in terms of having good performance because only a coach can't make that happen without the backing of solid team players.

Barcelona's current squad is okay but it is not to be compared with Real Madrid's squad. I believe that Barcelona management would do the needful to support and give Flick the needed time to build Barcelona's squad in a way that will bring out their best performance to either lift the Laliga trophy or qualify for the Champions League every season.

The first good news for Flick is about the injured superstar player of Barcelona Gavi.
Gavi was having good days in Barcelona and he had good performances in the games for this team and considering his age, he couldn't have a shining future in Barcelona. But sadly he got injured hardly while he was playing for Spain during the last November, Just after that there was much news about his situation and he had to stay out for 8 to 10 months to get back in the good form again.
While now we have seen some pictures from Gavi training in the field which can show this player can get back to the field and play for Barcelona again.




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June 13, 2024, 08:39:29 PM
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The first good news for Flick is about the injured superstar player of Barcelona Gavi.
Gavi was having good days in Barcelona and he had good performances in the games for this team and considering his age, he couldn't have a shining future in Barcelona. But sadly he got injured hardly while he was playing for Spain during the last November, Just after that there was much news about his situation and he had to stay out for 8 to 10 months to get back in the good form again.
While now we have seen some pictures from Gavi training in the field which can show this player can get back to the field and play for Barcelona again.




The main issue wrong with Barcelona is mainly severe long-term injuries. We have come to realized how tough the season have become and we've watched them struggle this season and previous. The board worked hand in hand to ensure they're making one of the top good decision, appointing Hansi Flick as headcoach is probably good decision.

Gavi is an important player for Barcelona, he comprises on main stats which is very essential for the growth of Barcelona. Hansi Flick is tough coach and will always worked for extreme goals because he's normally this type of coach that doesn't dissapoints but always focused on top goals.

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June 13, 2024, 08:47:45 PM
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The first good news for Flick is about the injured superstar player of Barcelona Gavi.
Gavi was having good days in Barcelona and he had good performances in the games for this team and considering his age, he couldn't have a shining future in Barcelona. But sadly he got injured hardly while he was playing for Spain during the last November, Just after that there was much news about his situation and he had to stay out for 8 to 10 months to get back in the good form again.
While now we have seen some pictures from Gavi training in the field which can show this player can get back to the field and play for Barcelona again.
Gavi is a good player for Barcelona and his return from injury is what I have been waiting for. I know he's not better than other players in his position sometimes, but he's got a strong mentality and a unique style of play. This identity is what makes me happy to see him always playing, but the long injury he suffered last season will probably make him lose his best form.

Hansi Flick must see Gavi as a good player to have in Barcelona's main line-up next season. Romeo, Ilkay Gundogan and Roberto certainly have more experience than Gavi, but in terms of energy I think Gavi is still quite good compared to them. Gavi can sometimes be decisive, it has developed well under Xavi for several seasons.

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June 13, 2024, 08:50:42 PM
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But in the transfer market last summer, Barcelona was not that aggressive in the transfer market. And maybe something similar will happen in the transfer market this time. Because with the current financial conditions, Barcelona just has to be clever at making the most of what they have. or if they want to bring in players then they just need to add a few potential players who haven't been looked at by many other clubs and whose prices certainly won't be too high.

Barcelona will definitely need to strengthen their squad if they want to build a title-worthy squad. This season we don't see the expected performance from this Barcelona squad. If you want to win the title, you need more consistency of performance. Real Madrid have strengthened their squad by adding Mbappe to the squad. Barcelona also need to add experienced players to the squad.

Joan Laporta must raise funds. FLick will not be able to strengthen this squad without raising funds. FLick is an experienced coach. If Barcelona can stabilize this squad, I have no doubt that Barcelona can occupy the second place in the table. However, if we want to win the title, we definitely need a stronger squad.

Barcelona performance needs a special focus in order to enhance their strength. That is the best fact. Joan Laporta and the Barcelona management need to focus more on raising funds for Xavi (not Flick, because I take it as an error, which maybe you meant Xavi) in order for him to be able to bring more talented players because still maintaining the second position will not make any sense. Even in this season, Real Madrid gave them a point gap of 10 points, so facing that will not be a small battle. 

Although Real Madrid has now added mbappe to their squad, who will make them stronger, if Barcelona doesn’t add more effort to get more talented players that will face the performance of Real Madrid, I think they will definitely maintain that second position, which means winning the title might be so hard, but let's see how the transfer market will be before the season. 

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June 13, 2024, 08:54:55 PM
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We all know the main problem with Barcelona is not a coach; Barcelona's financial problems are the reason why Xavi couldn't function as well as expected. So I disagree with you that Xavi was relieved of his duty as Barcelona's head coach because he was incompetent. Barcelona played with most of their young players this season, which didn't give Xavi a choice but to work with them because Barcelona was not financially stable enough to buy good players. With the addition of Mbappe to the Real Madrid squad, Barcelona are likely not to win the La Liga title because they don't have a squad that can rival Real Madrid for the La Liga title when the new season starts.
Even with all the challenges, xavi in my contest did so well and is deserving of an accolade because all that he has ever done was to get the team to getting the best they can even with the available team he's got because he was unable to get more players who could help him get the desired results he wishes to get as the team wasn't in in their financial strength to get that done as they should. Xavi wasn't incompetent rather Barcelona was incapacitated to financially strengthen the team well enough and this cannot be blamed on xavi as almost every coach would have done almost same thing bas he did.

It's even possible if xavi gets the opportunity ad is hired by a team who has got the financial strength, and are able to get the kind of players he desire to work with and get their team strengthened enough, I believe he is going to do much better than he has done at Barcelona and with t he experience he has gotten from Barcelona, he will be able to manage a team even in their worse form without having to stress the teams purse, as he was able to do same at Barcelona such that with the young available players the team maintained a decent position on the table even after a series of falls.

I have another opinion, clearly for the 2023-24 season the coach has a big hand in what happens to Barcelona and so do the players. yeah, regardless of the team's unhealthy financial condition. a coach, knows the situation and conditions of a team he handles. The question is, how can the coach, with all the club's current limitations, try as hard as possible to keep the team playing competitively. Regarding Xavi Hernandez, as a Barcelona fan I liked Xavi, especially when he was still a player. However, this season, apart from the tactics and strategy which are not working well, Barcelona has been hit by a storm of injuries to several of its core players. plus, the decline in the performance of Barcelona's defense line. There were several factors that caused Barcelona to be inconsistent last season, especially the decline in the quality of play both in the front line and defense sectors. Plus, several midfielders who were mainstays were injured. This condition worsened Xavi's performance in building a more competitive squad, especially in the competition for trophies.

But that doesn't mean the problem lies with Xavi. As a Barcelona fan, there are several Xavi policies that I criticize when implementing his players and rotating them. Sometimes, I wonder why Xavi makes rotations that are not ideal in some of his squad's matches. However, it does not rule out the possibility that Barcelona is in a financially healthy condition. It's possible, but it doesn't rule out the possibility that they will bring in more reliable players as the team needs. However, that is the coach's job regardless of the condition of the club they are working with.
But, as a Barcelona supporter, I appreciate Xavi for giving us trophies, especially La Liga. However, currently Barcelona's coaching chair has changed, Hansi Flick is currently trusted to manage Barcelona. the journey will not be easy, in fact I have discussed it before. But, we haven't seen their actual performance in the new season. after all, things haven't started yet. So, let's just follow along when it's time for a new competition to be rolled out.


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June 13, 2024, 09:00:16 PM
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We all know the main problem with Barcelona is not a coach; Barcelona's financial problems are the reason why Xavi couldn't function as well as expected. So I disagree with you that Xavi was relieved of his duty as Barcelona's head coach because he was incompetent. Barcelona played with most of their young players this season, which didn't give Xavi a choice but to work with them because Barcelona was not financially stable enough to buy good players. With the addition of Mbappe to the Real Madrid squad, Barcelona are likely not to win the La Liga title because they don't have a squad that can rival Real Madrid for the La Liga title when the new season starts.
We are aware of it, but it seems like Barcelona is not aware of that at all. They keep trying to put some managerial changes when in fact the problem is with the financial situation.

Koeman, Xavi, Flick none of them could do anything about this team because they lack the finances to make this team better, Xavi winning the title was a huge shock and they should have kept him for that reason, but even with Xavi, or any other manager in the world, they are not going to get better. Hell, Real Madrid just got Mbappe for free, can you imagine how great you have to be in order get him for free? Who did Barcelona get for free? Ilkay? I am sorry but Barcelona doesn't have a manager problem, it has a money problem and that's not going away anytime soon.
I agree with you that Barcelona management should have allowed Xavi to remain as their head coach since he managed to win the La Liga title in his second year at Barcelona. Barcelona is a good club that is known for winning trophies, but since their financial situation changed, Barcelona has found it difficult to play competitively and win trophies. A coach can perform well at Barcelona only when they fix their financial problems so that the coach can be able to buy the players he needs in his squad. Flick will not turn things around at Barcelona because Barcelona needs money to overhaul their squad.



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June 13, 2024, 09:05:07 PM
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But in the transfer market last summer, Barcelona was not that aggressive in the transfer market. And maybe something similar will happen in the transfer market this time. Because with the current financial conditions, Barcelona just has to be clever at making the most of what they have. or if they want to bring in players then they just need to add a few potential players who haven't been looked at by many other clubs and whose prices certainly won't be too high.

Barcelona will definitely need to strengthen their squad if they want to build a title-worthy squad. This season we don't see the expected performance from this Barcelona squad. If you want to win the title, you need more consistency of performance. Real Madrid have strengthened their squad by adding Mbappe to the squad. Barcelona also need to add experienced players to the squad.

Joan Laporta must raise funds. FLick will not be able to strengthen this squad without raising funds. FLick is an experienced coach. If Barcelona can stabilize this squad, I have no doubt that Barcelona can occupy the second place in the table. However, if we want to win the title, we definitely need a stronger squad.

Barcelona performance needs a special focus in order to enhance their strength. That is the best fact. Joan Laporta and the Barcelona management need to focus more on raising funds for Xavi (not Flick, because I take it as an error, which maybe you meant Xavi) in order for him to be able to bring more talented players because still maintaining the second position will not make any sense. Even in this season, Real Madrid gave them a point gap of 10 points, so facing that will not be a small battle. 

Although Real Madrid has now added mbappe to their squad, who will make them stronger, if Barcelona doesn’t add more effort to get more talented players that will face the performance of Real Madrid, I think they will definitely maintain that second position, which means winning the title might be so hard, but let's see how the transfer market will be before the season. 


That Barcelona team really needs some serious hardwork and for now they are no way going to be in the standards of real Madrid because Real Madrid gotten everything covered from talents to skills and all are of the right age @ young and vibrant. Barcelona needs serious back up and players in that squad before they can seem to get things working because if they start the new season like this they are no way going to make it to the battle the league with Real Madrid.

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June 13, 2024, 09:09:40 PM
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Although Real Madrid has now added mbappe to their squad, who will make them stronger, if Barcelona doesn’t add more effort to get more talented players that will face the performance of Real Madrid, I think they will definitely maintain that second position, which means winning the title might be so hard, but let's see how the transfer market will be before the season. 


What you said is the reality. What Barcelona needs to do is to focus on enriching its squad depth to be prepared for the next season which is obviously going to be a tough one as upcoming clubs are warming up to take the space, clubs like Girona and Leverkusen did well in their own table leagues while other elite clubs are already gingered to work harder next season hence the change in managers currently happening across the clubs and the reformation some of those clubs making right now. So Barcelona must join the train to and make some tactical decisions concerning their squad depth to make them more fierce.

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June 13, 2024, 09:13:20 PM
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Yes, it definitely won't be easy for Flick to make Barcelona that strong again. Because, no matter how great a coach is, how will the club perform without good players? Yes, Barcelona still has other players who are actually quite talented. However, if they want to compete even more closely with Real Madrid and other strong teams in the UCL, Barcelona must try extra hard to make this happen. Because usually, Barcelona is known as the giant Real Madrid and continues to want to compete with that club. Their rivalry is really high. Yes, however, Flick needs a more precise strategy to make Barcelona at least as good as it is with the current squad. And how he can immediately optimize ways to make Barcelona even stronger.
Honestly, no matter how good the coach's reach and club's lack of good players, it still nothing because the coach cannot join them playing the game during match day. The only work of the coach is for him to provide the good players and make sure his players always perform better in every match. Barcelona performance is a little low at the end of this. In this case, we cannot compare their performance with real Madrid performance because real Madrid is far stronger than Barcelona if their coach can look over them and do screening against some players so that he can sign better players that will make the team stronger back.
This is already a different thing. When on the field, a coach will not be in the middle of playing. However, the coach will definitely always accompany them on the edge of the field, observe the course of the match, the performance of the players, and how the moves made by him are carried out by the players, then also formulate various tactics and strategies that are most suitable for the opponent at that time. And moreover, a coach also determines how the players are structured, the tactics used, and the player's goals. It may not be visible directly to kick the ball, but the coach can observe this directly and make decisions if the players do not heed the tactics or directions given by the coach.

The first good news for Flick is about the injured superstar player of Barcelona Gavi.
Gavi was having good days in Barcelona and he had good performances in the games for this team and considering his age, he couldn't have a shining future in Barcelona. But sadly he got injured hardly while he was playing for Spain during the last November, Just after that there was much news about his situation and he had to stay out for 8 to 10 months to get back in the good form again.
While now we have seen some pictures from Gavi training in the field which can show this player can get back to the field and play for Barcelona again.
Yes, at least this is good news for Barcelona. This is one of the long injuries to a Barcelona player. Gavi got injury since November and now he is getting more recovered. After his post-injury training round, it was certain that he could really strengthen the squad next season. but whether it will slightly disturb his performance as before or not. We can see it later. But at least, that Barcelona midfielder is back again.

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June 13, 2024, 09:40:06 PM
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Although Real Madrid has now added mbappe to their squad, who will make them stronger, if Barcelona doesn’t add more effort to get more talented players that will face the performance of Real Madrid, I think they will definitely maintain that second position, which means winning the title might be so hard, but let's see how the transfer market will be before the season. 


What you said is the reality. What Barcelona needs to do is to focus on enriching its squad depth to be prepared for the next season which is obviously going to be a tough one as upcoming clubs are warming up to take the space, clubs like Girona and Leverkusen did well in their own table leagues while other elite clubs are already gingered to work harder next season hence the change in managers currently happening across the clubs and the reformation some of those clubs making right now. So Barcelona must join the train to and make some tactical decisions concerning their squad depth to make them more fierce.
Barcelona spends more on defence while xavi was still around let's see what the new coach decision will be and they need to stop holding alot of players what're not contributing like they used to do, I think it's pretty much reduced ...
Now competing with Real Madrid can't be really decide at the moment but viewing it logically we might say they can't compete with Realmadrid  currently with their squad , a squad is just a team of good players and a player doesn't have to be known world wide before you can determine he's a good player depending on his performance... however,getting their current  team to perform even  better could yield  a good result and no doubt that the squad is weak truly

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June 13, 2024, 09:44:21 PM
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The first good news for Flick is about the injured superstar player of Barcelona Gavi.
Gavi was having good days in Barcelona and he had good performances in the games for this team and considering his age, he couldn't have a shining future in Barcelona. But sadly he got injured hardly while he was playing for Spain during the last November, Just after that there was much news about his situation and he had to stay out for 8 to 10 months to get back in the good form again.
While now we have seen some pictures from Gavi training in the field which can show this player can get back to the field and play for Barcelona again.


But for now there are some oblique rumors about several players including for Gavi and Pedri who are rumored to be players on the sales list for Barcelona this season. Although this news is still confusing, but there are already several major media reporting this so we also cannot know how the clarity about Gavi's future will be.

It's just that looking at the current situation selling Pedri and Gavi could be a risky situation for Barcelona because after all these two young players are rising stars at Barcelona and we know how good their performance was before getting injured.

Not to mention there is the name Ferran who is starting to be lured by Newcastle at this time so it is important for Barcelona that they are careful in making decisions for the continuity of next season to run well and in accordance with expectations.

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June 13, 2024, 09:53:15 PM
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We are aware of it, but it seems like Barcelona is not aware of that at all. They keep trying to put some managerial changes when in fact the problem is with the financial situation.

Koeman, Xavi, Flick none of them could do anything about this team because they lack the finances to make this team better, Xavi winning the title was a huge shock and they should have kept him for that reason, but even with Xavi, or any other manager in the world, they are not going to get better. Hell, Real Madrid just got Mbappe for free, can you imagine how great you have to be in order get him for free? Who did Barcelona get for free? Ilkay? I am sorry but Barcelona doesn't have a manager problem, it has a money problem and that's not going away anytime soon.
I agree with you that Barcelona management should have allowed Xavi to remain as their head coach since he managed to win the La Liga title in his second year at Barcelona. Barcelona is a good club that is known for winning trophies, but since their financial situation changed, Barcelona has found it difficult to play competitively and win trophies. A coach can perform well at Barcelona only when they fix their financial problems so that the coach can be able to buy the players he needs in his squad. Flick will not turn things around at Barcelona because Barcelona needs money to overhaul their squad.
Barcelona's management has been very problematic lately and has been too hasty in making decisions. Many were disappointed with Xavi's dismissal, because at least Barcelona did not perform badly throughout the season, even in the previous season they managed to present the Laliga Trophy to Barcelona because the defense that Xavi had built recently showed very good development. It's just that they have a lot of injured players like Gavi which means they can't compete well in Laliga this season. Apart from that, Real Madrid is in good condition so it is natural that Real Madrid won the Laliga Trophy.

In the hands of new coach Flick, hopefully the chemistry of the Barcelona players will remain intact and we hope that Xavi's dismissal is not a blunder on the part of the management. Flick is of course very happy because Barcelona's defense has not changed much, he only focuses on the midfield and attackers to be able to play effectively in scoring goals. Flick is known to be good at polishing young players, so that even if he doesn't buy new players, he can take advantage of existing players. Maybe that's why Barcelona management recruited him, but I doubt that next season he can compete with Real Madrid in the race for the La Liga trophy.

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June 13, 2024, 09:57:06 PM
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Gavi is a good player for Barcelona and his return from injury is what I have been waiting for. I know he's not better than other players in his position sometimes, but he's got a strong mentality and a unique style of play. This identity is what makes me happy to see him always playing, but the long injury he suffered last season will probably make him lose his best form.

Hansi Flick must see Gavi as a good player to have in Barcelona's main line-up next season. Romeo, Ilkay Gundogan and Roberto certainly have more experience than Gavi, but in terms of energy I think Gavi is still quite good compared to them. Gavi can sometimes be decisive, it has developed well under Xavi for several seasons.
This season has not been very good for Gavi because he had to give up hopes of being in the Olympics and Euros of course because of the healing he had to do and if you look at the beginning of his ACL at least it is possible a few weeks after the season rolls around he will be fully declared healed even though he will definitely have to re-adapt because it's been a long time since he grazed and played soccer.

It's definitely a complicated situation actually although Gavi is a very good young player but indeed after the ACL there will definitely be some changes that occur and he could lose his momentum and this is what needs to be worried about.
We've seen some players who have the same history like Chiesa or Zaniolo who ultimately didn't rediscover their form after the injury and hopefully Gavi isn't like that and can continue to play well after recovering.
 

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June 13, 2024, 11:59:14 PM
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The first good news for Flick is about the injured superstar player of Barcelona Gavi.
Gavi was having good days in Barcelona and he had good performances in the games for this team and considering his age, he couldn't have a shining future in Barcelona. But sadly he got injured hardly while he was playing for Spain during the last November, Just after that there was much news about his situation and he had to stay out for 8 to 10 months to get back in the good form again.
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Gavi will recover soon. He is expected to return in June, 30.
I think there is no something worrying about him because it looks fine. He also has a long contract (until 2026) with Barcelona. So Flick mustn't be afraid about him because he will stay in Barcelona for the next season.

There are also other injured players who must get attention, they are Lewandowski and Frenkie de Jong. Lewandowski will return from the injury in June, 20. Meanwhile Frenkie de Jong got a worse injury, his return isn't unknown. It is bad for Barcelona if they will have an important match in the near future because Frenkie de Jong has a big role in the midfield line of Barcelona.



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https://www.football-espana.net/2024/06/13/barcelona-president-discloses-midfielder-request-to-leave

Do you know if Laporta has spoken about Barcelona's plans for the summer transfer season? Laporta has even revealed a request from Barcelona midfielder Oriol Romeu to leave the squad. On The 'Barca Reservat, Laporta stated that Barcelona will be overhauling its roster under hansi flick.
It will be completed during the summer transfer season. Oriol Romeu has submitted a personal request to the Laporta to sell him. AFAIK, Oriol Romeu has not been involved in new project of hansi flick and barcelona.

The club's primary focus from hansi flick will be on developing young skilled players. I was thinking it would be more beneficial for oriol romeu to stay in Girona rather than rejoin in Barcelona.
It's really interesting to see what plan Barcelona has in place to solve its financial problems and restructure the club. Meanwhile, La Liga has not yet lifted the embargo on Barcelona signing new players.



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