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June 20, 2024, 09:45:02 PM
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Recovery phrase can be memorized but to be on a safe side, i don't think it's good at all. If you memories it how can you pass it on when you are no more, and the person you pass it on too memories it and can't recall it,that means your Bitcoin asset is gone ,or due to health issues and can't remember ,your assets will be lost forever. No matter how brilliant or wise you are ,it is you write down or engrave your seed phrase for future and safety purpose. If you are someone that does not talk took much , it's okay ,but for someone that talks a lot , it's not safe because you don't know when you will spill it out when in mist of your friends.
 When moving out of the country, you could engrave it on a bracelet, write up on any clothe or foot wear you are wearing which will make the clothe looks like a designers outfit or even tattoo it on your skin because a lot of person will not reason such , they will be looking for paper write up.
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June 20, 2024, 09:58:48 PM
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Just remembered that I have written the recovery seed phrase of my Electrum on a piece of paper somewhere in my place. I'm wondering what could go wrong since my place isn't too secured.  How about trying to memorize it? Is it possible?

Would you try?
What are the benefits? ... and the setbacks.
If your wallet's recovery phase is 12 words long, it won't be hard for you to remember, but if it's 24 words long, it might be hard for you to remember. But if you can remember and store important documents at the same time, it is more convenient because in case you lose your documents, your remembered password or recovery phase will help in recovering your wallet. But you should save the documents well and keep those documents in a safe place so that they cannot destroy your documents in natural calamities.

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June 20, 2024, 11:47:54 PM
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It depends. If it was a 12 word seed, no problem. 24 word? That could pose a challenge.
Even it is only 10-12 words, I think it is still a problem.  Cheesy
It is not a challenge but it's a serious risk to access our investment.
Personally, I will never try to keep it by memorizing only. It is better to keep it on a more secure way (write them on a paper, metal, or other else).

The problem is I would find it to be risky for large amounts of money. I'd be gambling, betting on my ability to remember everything right after some time. That's where the weakness lies. I tend to forget unused things, so every day I'd have to say it in my mind before going to bed to remember it, so it's fresh in the memory. Feels like some unnecessary burden.
Yep. It is an unnecessary burden. Sure, there is no problem to memorize it but don't only keep it in a single method.
Sometimes, we already gamble investing in random coins. Why we must gamble again for the way to access it?  Grin It is not a funny way to manage our investment. If we can't remember it, everything will be gone forever.


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June 21, 2024, 02:04:54 AM
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Just remembered that I have written the recovery seed phrase of my Electrum on a piece of paper somewhere in my place. I'm wondering what could go wrong since my place isn't too secured.  How about trying to memorize it? Is it possible?

Would you try?
What are the benefits? ... and the setbacks.
It's possible to memorize your seed phrase, but with lots of information going to your mind on a daily basis, I doubt that you can remember it for months or even years.

I've created lots of wallets already ever since I joined the crypto space. From Electrum, to Metamask, to Ronin wallet and others, I've always wrote all of their seed phrases and put it on a storage where I know it will be safe. I also put a lock on it so that it will add an extra layer of security. I know this isn't the best way of storing seed phrases, but in a community where I am right now where it's only me who knows anything about crypto, I still feel that it's safe at least. Cheesy

Anyway, memorizing your seed phrase ALONE will give you some problems. Memorizing it would be fine but find another way to secure your seed phrase.

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June 21, 2024, 04:07:37 AM
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It's possible to memorize your seed phrase, but with lots of information going to your mind on a daily basis, I doubt that you can remember it for months or even years.
We can remember a wallet seed phrase if we always practice recalling it every day. We have to remember it first and on daily basis, we must recall these seed phrase. Practice it daily will help our brain does not forget these words.

If we don't do it daily, we certainly will forget all of seed words or few of them after one, two weeks or some months.

Practice it daily is a good way to remember seed phrase but it only works if we don't have health accidents that can affect our brain and memory. We can not control health accidents so this method, using brain and memory to remember seed phrase is risky.
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June 21, 2024, 04:44:44 AM
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I can memorize my seed words if I really have to. I did it in the past and it worked well but then I didn’t want to spend my brain resources on that while a piece of paper can work as well, sometimes better.

If you are going to memorize your seed words at least have a paper backup around because you can’t know when the dementia will get you. It could be anytime. It happens to young people too.

It only takes one forgotten word or letter to mess everything up. Bitcoin’s history is full of stories like that.

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June 21, 2024, 06:05:12 AM
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I can memorize my seed words if I really have to. I did it in the past and it worked well but then I didn’t want to spend my brain resources on that while a piece of paper can work as well, sometimes better.

If you are going to memorize your seed words at least have a paper backup around because you can’t know when the dementia will get you. It could be anytime. It happens to young people too.

It only takes one forgotten word or letter to mess everything up. Bitcoin’s history is full of stories like that.

I don't even remember one of them at the moment. I believe in saving in some way to avoid losing. This is too risky, when you just remember. The other thing is, my memory is not very good so I don't remember it.
I don't think there is enough 1 model to avoid losing Recovery Phrase. The more you have a way to store in a certain place, maybe it will make it easier for you if you have problems with losing phrases. Although it can also make you worry about being stolen by people. But with a little combination that you understand it will make it difficult, besides that I am sure not everyone understands about phrases.

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June 21, 2024, 07:00:59 AM
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Just remembered that I have written the recovery seed phrase of my Electrum on a piece of paper somewhere in my place. I'm wondering what could go wrong since my place isn't too secured.  How about trying to memorize it? Is it possible?

Would you try?
What are the benefits? ... and the setbacks.
Memorizing seed phrases may be easy, but we never know how in the future our memory could weaken for various reasons. Maybe memorizing is an alternative, but can you guarantee that in the future our memories will remain the same? But for now, personally I don't do that and prefer other ways to store the seed phrases that I have because I'm afraid we will forget them.

The debate regarding saving seed phrases is always the most interesting because this is a security measure that needs to be maintained properly and everyone must have an effective method according to their own views. There are several methods that have been explained and maybe you can make a study of the security measures chosen.



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June 21, 2024, 08:48:48 AM
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Memorizing seed phrases may be easy, but we never know how in the future our memory could weaken for various reasons. Maybe memorizing is an alternative, but can you guarantee that in the future our memories will remain the same? But for now, personally I don't do that and prefer other ways to store the seed phrases that I have because I'm afraid we will forget them.

I do think we will be wasting our time memorizing something that we can write on a paper and store safety than to use our brains. Our brains should be useful for some other things thay can be easy to remember. If we use our brains for memorizing seed phrase, what are we going to do with things that are needed to be stored in the brain but it has already been used up by our seed phrase. Seed phrase should be stored in a safer place that we can not forget but are easy to remember because our brains can free up some things to make room for more relevant things to be stored. It will be very wrong to store our seed phrase in our brains. We should not try to do that in spite the fact that it can be successfully done.

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June 21, 2024, 09:52:49 AM
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I do think we will be wasting our time memorizing something that we can write on a paper and store safety than to use our brains. Our brains should be useful for some other things thay can be easy to remember. If we use our brains for memorizing seed phrase, what are we going to do with things that are needed to be stored in the brain but it has already been used up by our seed phrase. Seed phrase should be stored in a safer place that we can not forget but are easy to remember because our brains can free up some things to make room for more relevant things to be stored. It will be very wrong to store our seed phrase in our brains. We should not try to do that in spite the fact that it can be successfully done.
You are right, of course it is a waste of time if we choose to memorize something that we can write down and store well and it would be better for us to use the memory we have on something that is more useful than choosing to memorize the seed phrase.
I think with the many things we do in this life it will certainly be very difficult to really remember them well and if we forget the good phrase and the assets we have accumulated a lot of course this will be very sad for us because we have made a mistake that is very big.

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June 21, 2024, 05:32:22 PM
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Just remembered that I have written the recovery seed phrase of my Electrum on a piece of paper somewhere in my place. I'm wondering what could go wrong since my place isn't too secured.  How about trying to memorize it? Is it possible?

Would you try?
What are the benefits? ... and the setbacks.
It is better not to just memorize the recovery phrase, the risk of forgetting is high. I can't even remember 12 words because it is too difficult for me. Writing the initial recovery phrase on a piece of paper is right in my opinion, but it is better to keep it in a safer place, maybe at home where not everyone knows. Don't keep it in a place where people might see it, such as the office, living room or others.

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June 22, 2024, 09:53:43 AM
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I do think we will be wasting our time memorizing something that we can write on a paper and store safety than to use our brains. Our brains should be useful for some other things thay can be easy to remember. If we use our brains for memorizing seed phrase, what are we going to do with things that are needed to be stored in the brain but it has already been used up by our seed phrase. Seed phrase should be stored in a safer place that we can not forget but are easy to remember because our brains can free up some things to make room for more relevant things to be stored. It will be very wrong to store our seed phrase in our brains. We should not try to do that in spite the fact that it can be successfully done.
There's also nothing wrong with it and maybe it won't be a waste of time for some people because memorizing is the option they choose. But there should be another method that is more elegant and more precise so that when our memory starts to wane there is something we can look at to remind ourselves of. Several options can be executed according to a much better level of security and each individual should have these options rather than memorizing them.

While this is rarely done and very few people memorize the starting phrase, we are starting to see someone who might try it. So discussions like this began to arise based on observations and suggestions he wanted to hear from several people who took part in the discussion.



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June 22, 2024, 11:05:27 AM
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Just remembered that I have written the recovery seed phrase of my Electrum on a piece of paper somewhere in my place. I'm wondering what could go wrong since my place isn't too secured.  How about trying to memorize it? Is it possible?

Would you try?
What are the benefits? ... and the setbacks.
It is better not to just memorize the recovery phrase, the risk of forgetting is high. I can't even remember 12 words because it is too difficult for me. Writing the initial recovery phrase on a piece of paper is right in my opinion, but it is better to keep it in a safer place, maybe at home where not everyone knows. Don't keep it in a place where people might see it, such as the office, living room or others.

That depends on how often you use the passphrase and of course most of us use it very rarely when we have some problems with our computer,laptop or mobile depending on where we have setup our wallets.However there are cases where a person can remember anything dear to him for a long time and never forget it,personally I know all the numbers of my three bank cards,two debit ones and one credit card memorized so whenever I do a transaction,that want to buy something I don't have the need to pull out my real life wallet and take out the cards.If the passphrase of a Bitcoin wallet would be so dear to me (if I have quite some nice amount of money in there) I would have no problem memorizing it and also not forgetting it,of course to be sure I would also keep it in another computer that never goes online,what I mean is that there are cases where learning the passphrase and memorizing it is not difficult at all.

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June 23, 2024, 05:22:37 PM
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I can memorize my seed words if I really have to. I did it in the past and it worked well but then I didn’t want to spend my brain resources on that while a piece of paper can work as well, sometimes better.

If you are going to memorize your seed words at least have a paper backup around because you can’t know when the dementia will get you. It could be anytime. It happens to young people too.

It only takes one forgotten word or letter to mess everything up. Bitcoin’s history is full of stories like that.
Imagine walking around your house with your mobile in hand and repeating the words from your seed phrase like a 4th grader.  Grin Well, it could be useful sometimes because it makes it easier for you to import your wallet in a wallet software because you wouldn't need to first look for your back up and then do it, but as you said, our brain can play with us sometimes because we don't even remember the simplest things at times.

So, it's probably better to have it backed up somewhere very safe, and then, if you want to try and memorize it just for fun or convenience, you can go ahead and give it a try, but for me, I think I wouldn't need to so that because I know I have more important things to do than to waste my time on something which isn't necessary.

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June 23, 2024, 05:30:57 PM
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Just remembered that I have written the recovery seed phrase of my Electrum on a piece of paper somewhere in my place. I'm wondering what could go wrong since my place isn't too secured.  How about trying to memorize it? Is it possible?

Would you try?
What are the benefits? ... and the setbacks.
It is better not to just memorize the recovery phrase, the risk of forgetting is high. I can't even remember 12 words because it is too difficult for me. Writing the initial recovery phrase on a piece of paper is right in my opinion, but it is better to keep it in a safer place, maybe at home where not everyone knows. Don't keep it in a place where people might see it, such as the office, living room or others.
That is the conventional way that must be maintained because after all it is a good condition when we always remain careful and minimize all forms of risk so that writing and storing in a safe place clearly becomes very possible to secure the seeds we have. But indeed when the question is can we memorize it then surely the answer is that we can but it cannot be used as the only way so that we do not lose seeds because even though memorized in the end writing also becomes very important in the end.

This is still very much okay to do but there must be other options because there is nothing wrong with us memorizing things like this because after all it can be a form of our responsibility to further secure the assets we have.
There is nothing wrong with memorizing it's just that if in the end memorizing without writing down the seeds we have then it will definitely be very dangerous because we humans are prone to forgetting.

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Today at 01:00:18 PM
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Just remembered that I have written the recovery seed phrase of my Electrum on a piece of paper somewhere in my place. I'm wondering what could go wrong since my place isn't too secured.  How about trying to memorize it? Is it possible?

Would you try?
What are the benefits? ... and the setbacks.
The benefits is you don't have to worry about storing your shit elsewhere, you just have to keep it in your mind, and best thing about it, no risks of some hacker being able to get a hold of it, or some thief smart enough to be able to access it using the recovery phrase. The cons or the setbacks is of course, the unreliability of the human memory. Shit you can remember for today, you may not be able to remember in the next couple of weeks or so. Even worse, you might be smooth sailing this whole time, until you finally find the need to either transfer or access your wallet in a different device and you're stuck in bumfuck nowhere cause you can't remember the order of the words, or even the words itself.

I myself just keep it in my notes app on the phone, protected by a password, kept within my person at all times, thus far it has worked well for me, and thanks to cloud storage, I can just access it whenever, wherever.

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Today at 01:05:39 PM
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The benefits is you don't have to worry about storing your shit elsewhere, you just have to keep it in your mind, and best thing about it, no risks of some hacker being able to get a hold of it, or some thief smart enough to be able to access it using the recovery phrase.
No hacker can hack your brain but is this advantage big enough to ignore disadvantage?

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The cons or the setbacks is of course, the unreliability of the human memory. Shit you can remember for today, you may not be able to remember in the next couple of weeks or so.
Human memory can be lost anytime and it's different than storing seed phrase in digital devices. We can have different disks, USB sticks for back up but with memory, each person has only one brain to use. No other reserved brain to make a second or third brain, memory backup.

This lack of extra backups means higher risk to lose our bitcoin forever when our brain and memory have problems.

If you are going to memorize your seed words at least have a paper backup around because you can’t know when the dementia will get you. It could be anytime. It happens to young people too.

It only takes one forgotten word or letter to mess everything up. Bitcoin’s history is full of stories like that.
I don't want my story will be added to stories like losing bitcoin because lack of back ups. I don't feel anything funny to read stories of people lost their bitcoins but if it is my story, I will feel very painful.

Relying on brain and memory is a best method to lose bitcoin and with this big risk, I don't choose this method.

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