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Author Topic: What do you think about Ross Ulbricht, the SilkRoad and the drugwars in general?  (Read 489 times)
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May 30, 2024, 09:12:52 AM
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^^^ And the point is, he admitted that he was under the law, and thereby condemn himself to the mercy of the court... which didn't execute him... so the court was merciful.

Where is the document that I signed that obligates me to be under a law. If your neighbor makes a new law for you to obey, do you have to obey it? Don't you only have to obey it if you sign the paperwork accepting it?

Where is the paperwork that you signed that shows that you are required to obey the laws that a bunch of people in Washington, D.C., made? Or are you being forced into it by dictatorial force of the courts? Remember. 13th Amendment. No involuntary servitude. If they force you to do something - like obeying a law - you should be paid.

Ross volunteered by signing up with an attorney. Prior to that, where did he sign that drug and money laws applied to him? I'll bet it was nowhere. And I'd bet that if average people looked the laws that they are supposed to obey, they would find dozens or hundreds of them that were against what they believed in their free living of life.

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Where's the paperwork that says your signature on paperwork means anything?  

If you live in a society that has laws and the means to enforce them, you can't just decide that they don't apply to you after you're caught breaking them (at least in most cases, depending on who you are) and then go back to enjoy all the benefits that come with living somewhere with law and order and a functioning government.  

You'd have a lot more to cry about if there were no laws.

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May 30, 2024, 05:24:04 PM
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^^^ And the point is, he admitted that he was under the law, and thereby condemn himself to the mercy of the court... which didn't execute him... so the court was merciful.

Where is the document that I signed that obligates me to be under a law. If your neighbor makes a new law for you to obey, do you have to obey it? Don't you only have to obey it if you sign the paperwork accepting it?

Where is the paperwork that you signed that shows that you are required to obey the laws that a bunch of people in Washington, D.C., made? Or are you being forced into it by dictatorial force of the courts? Remember. 13th Amendment. No involuntary servitude. If they force you to do something - like obeying a law - you should be paid.

Ross volunteered by signing up with an attorney. Prior to that, where did he sign that drug and money laws applied to him? I'll bet it was nowhere. And I'd bet that if average people looked the laws that they are supposed to obey, they would find dozens or hundreds of them that were against what they believed in their free living of life.

Cool

Where's the paperwork that says your signature on paperwork means anything?  

If you live in a society that has laws and the means to enforce them, you can't just decide that they don't apply to you after you're caught breaking them (at least in most cases, depending on who you are) and then go back to enjoy all the benefits that come with living somewhere with law and order and a functioning government.  

You'd have a lot more to cry about if there were no laws.

We're talking US, right? It's the foundational law of the US, the Constitution, that says you have the right to oppose every law the government makes. It's in the Contract Clause and the adjudications about the Contract Clause. It's the right to contract. If you can contract in, you can contract out.

The trick has to do with what you are contracted to. Government can only go by the words it has. Government doesn't assume anything. Words show that you are contracted into government unless there are other words that show that you are contracted out.

What words show that you are contracted into government? Your birth certificate, where your Mom signed you over to government in trust fashion. Of course, she didn't realize what she was doing. But that fact isn't recorded anywhere, so everybody in government can only understand that she knew what she was doing.

If you don't contract out once you reach the age of maturity (18 to 21 depending on the State), you are always under the thumb of the government. Your body is their property in trust. That's why the laws of the US apply to you.

Formally tell them by wording that expresses that you, the man/woman have contracted out of government. File it with your county recorder, and place an ad in the business gazette of your State/County that gives them notice. You are obeying the law when you do this.

Regarding what the signature has to do with it, contact an attorney to find the foundational law for this. Everybody know that a contract without a signature is not valid. You might ask, then why can they assume that you are under the laws of the US? The signature of your Mom on the birth certificate stands until you sign out of it.

There you go. Pay an attorney to set up the contract where you are contracting out. Sign it, having the signature witnessed. And then notice government with several copies to various agencies, and in the business gazette. Since few attorneys understand this stuff, and other government people don't understand it at all, you might have to fight court battles at times.

Remember one important thing about this. Government bases everything on words. They can't do anything else. So, learn how to use the right words to show that you are not under their thumb. Many people who attempt this, accidentally and inadvertently state by the words that they use to get out, that they are really still in. Their words contradict themselves.

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May 31, 2024, 12:35:48 AM
 #43

^^^ And the point is, he admitted that he was under the law, and thereby condemn himself to the mercy of the court... which didn't execute him... so the court was merciful.

Where is the document that I signed that obligates me to be under a law. If your neighbor makes a new law for you to obey, do you have to obey it? Don't you only have to obey it if you sign the paperwork accepting it?

Where is the paperwork that you signed that shows that you are required to obey the laws that a bunch of people in Washington, D.C., made? Or are you being forced into it by dictatorial force of the courts? Remember. 13th Amendment. No involuntary servitude. If they force you to do something - like obeying a law - you should be paid.

Ross volunteered by signing up with an attorney. Prior to that, where did he sign that drug and money laws applied to him? I'll bet it was nowhere. And I'd bet that if average people looked the laws that they are supposed to obey, they would find dozens or hundreds of them that were against what they believed in their free living of life.

Cool

Where's the paperwork that says your signature on paperwork means anything?  

If you live in a society that has laws and the means to enforce them, you can't just decide that they don't apply to you after you're caught breaking them (at least in most cases, depending on who you are) and then go back to enjoy all the benefits that come with living somewhere with law and order and a functioning government.  

You'd have a lot more to cry about if there were no laws.

We're talking US, right? It's the foundational law of the US, the Constitution, that says you have the right to oppose every law the government makes. It's in the Contract Clause and the adjudications about the Contract Clause. It's the right to contract. If you can contract in, you can contract out.

Are you saying you're obligated to live "under the foundational law of the US, the Constitution"?  Did you sign a document or something?  '

I didn't sign a document, am I obligated to live under this law?  Don't I only have to obey it if I sign the paperwork accepting it?


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