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January 12, 2025, 06:28:48 AM
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OP posted a link to his bets in the recent 3 months and he wins less than 50% of the bets he places. Pretty underwhelming for somebody that supposedly has so much insight.


Win rate means absolutely nothing in profitable betting, his average odds are 2.74 of course he is going to be winning below 50%.

His avg return on investment is 10.8% which is very impressive, but his sample is small with only 330 bets and there's still no answer to why he needs staking.

It's not impressive. You lose a couple of bets again and he is in negative super quick. Average odds of 2.74 show that he is straight up gambling, this has nothing to do with good scouting or anything. Also the average is a big misleading since there are many bets that are 5x and up. Win some of those and your return rate looks better. Anyway, I doubt OP will come back since nobody is really impressed or interested anyway, and that's good.

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January 12, 2025, 08:02:29 AM
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Win rate means absolutely nothing in profitable betting, his average odds are 2.74 of course he is going to be winning below 50%.
ROI is definitely more important than win rate in sports betting, but saying that win rate means nothing is just silly since it's an important factor that cannot be ignored based on my knowledge.

Also, he might actually be trying to offer a legit service, but he needs to prove how reliable he truly is to forum members which probably won't happen if you ask me.

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January 12, 2025, 12:33:16 PM
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ROI is definitely more important than win rate in sports betting, but saying that win rate means nothing is just silly since it's an important factor that cannot be ignored based on my knowledge.

Also, he might actually be trying to offer a legit service, but he needs to prove how reliable he truly is to forum members which probably won't happen if you ask me.

Win rate doesn't mean anything... say you bet long short horses at 30-100 odds (there is many people who do this fulltime)
Your win rate could be 4-6% but you would still be a good profitable winning bettor at those odds.
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January 13, 2025, 12:07:19 PM
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ROI is definitely more important than win rate in sports betting, but saying that win rate means nothing is just silly since it's an important factor that cannot be ignored based on my knowledge.

Also, he might actually be trying to offer a legit service, but he needs to prove how reliable he truly is to forum members which probably won't happen if you ask me.

Win rate doesn't mean anything... say you bet long short horses at 30-100 odds (there is many people who do this fulltime)
Your win rate could be 4-6% but you would still be a good profitable winning bettor at those odds.

What you mention is correct but @haunebu is not wrong either. Both PnL and Win rate is important on sports betting because it determines how successful and accurate your prediction is.

A gambler might ended up profitable with 4-6% but how can maintain his profitability in the long run since the kind of bet he is using has too much risk involved which means it’s more on relying to luck just to beat the odds.

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January 13, 2025, 11:27:46 PM
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According to our information, Monfils not looked fully fit at the practice court today. He is 38 y.o.. Obviously, superb athlete, but best of 5 is hard task for him at this stage of the career.


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January 13, 2025, 11:54:27 PM
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What you mention is correct but @haunebu is not wrong either. Both PnL and Win rate is important on sports betting because it determines how successful and accurate your prediction is.

A gambler might ended up profitable with 4-6% but how can maintain his profitability in the long run since the kind of bet he is using has too much risk involved which means it’s more on relying to luck just to beat the odds.

You just do not understand math or probability, you need to go take a math class or google some stuff about sharp betting.

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According to our information, Monfils not looked fully fit at the practice court today. He is 38 y.o.. Obviously, superb athlete, but best of 5 is hard task for him at this stage of the career.

You didn't answer anyones question, why do you need investors?
Is there a lack of bankroll for you guys or what exactly is the reason for needing other people to bet?
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Yes, our stakes are low, and we stick to the low-risk bankroll management (1% per bet, we are using flat stakes) because this is a long-term project and we are fully trusting for our edge over the markets.

Additional money will help us to cover costs (information sources, tools, etc.) and also to give us some small monthly payments as we are not touching bankroll money at all.

We understand what the main problem with paid bet services is—dropping odds. Here shouldn't be a problem at all as we work on Pinnacle odds.

I found this place and believe is possible to find here some serious peoples who understand what is long-term betting on asian markets (some people's here unfortunately don't understand because they are think double-digit roi is poor or hit rate below 50% is rubbish, so I even not answer).

I will keep posting bets here till the end of the march, I'm sure this is good sample enough for someone to join us,

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January 15, 2025, 12:07:46 PM
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How are we to move forward from here, my friend?

It seems the tennis cartel that has insider information and has an advantage over bookies has failed very early. It's just your second bet and you've already lost.

It seems what you firmly believe, that you're unstoppable, is proven wrong right away. And you even picked the favorite this time.

You failed to establish a reputation. Would you try to redeem yourself? Or would you quit and come back with another account and a different spiel?

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January 15, 2025, 04:45:15 PM
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You failed to establish a reputation. Would you try to redeem yourself? Or would you quit and come back with another account and a different spiel?

He probably has a completely different account on social media, perhaps on Twitter or in a community of gamblers on which he was giving completely opposite tips to the ones we have seen here, so in our eyes he is a completely random person who tried to get funds by proving himself to have extraordinary information on the sport, unfortunately in the eyes of the other community he probably partakes on he is probably seen as a genius who rarely gets things wrong.
Anyways, that is how these kind of scams have always worked... It is easy to predict future if you have the option to select all possible a outcomes at the same time.

After two games or perhaps three he will start to ask bettors on his other account to send him money for future tips, which we all know are complete BS.  Roll Eyes

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Last edit: January 17, 2025, 04:38:07 AM by TennisCartel
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Wow, really classless comments above. Yes, bet lost, but I promised 100% accuracy? NO. Stop talking about scamm and is very sad - for both of you lose of my bet is like big happiness, but that mean a lot about both of you, not about me. this is long-term project, marathon - not sprint.


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