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DAZN promotes this fight but there were no highlights on YouTube that we can see, all we have are interviews of both fighters the only highlights we saw are coming from reviews of boxing media, this is such a huge upset nobody saw this coming, a unanimous win by Paro even Subriel do not have a complaint on the decision.
He admitted that it was a big humiliation in his interview because it happened in front of his people.

Subriel can still climb and become champion again but he needs to be more technical and add some movement so he will become an overall champion.


I could not find any highlights either, which is not good if you want to build the profile of this fighter who is in a division with some big names. I did hear some complaints of the referee being very biased, which does not surprise me because it’s the same referee that kept interfering in the Dubois vs. Usyk fight whenever Dubois had some momentum, and ultimately ruled that a borderline shot was actually a low blow and gave Usyk an eternity to recover.

Matias had been considered a boogeyman after making 5 consecutive opponents quit, and all his victories were by KO also. That distinction should be taken with a grain of salt though, because those opponents were unknown fringe contenders. Paro was a massive underdog, so anybody who bet on him will have made a good profit. He has become an upset specialist. I’m sure if he fights Teofimo, Haney, or Pitbull Cruz, he will also be an underdog but it might be worth taking the risk considering his track record and that all of the champions are very beatable.

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June 16, 2024, 10:25:41 PM
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DAZN promotes this fight but there were no highlights on YouTube that we can see, all we have are interviews of both fighters the only highlights we saw are coming from reviews of boxing media, this is such a huge upset nobody saw this coming, a unanimous win by Paro even Subriel do not have a complaint on the decision.
He admitted that it was a big humiliation in his interview because it happened in front of his people.

Subriel can still climb and become champion again but he needs to be more technical and add some movement so he will become an overall champion.


I could not find any highlights either, which is not good if you want to build the profile of this fighter who is in a division with some big names. I did hear some complaints of the referee being very biased, which does not surprise me because it’s the same referee that kept interfering in the Dubois vs. Usyk fight whenever Dubois had some momentum, and ultimately ruled that a borderline shot was actually a low blow and gave Usyk an eternity to recover.

Matias had been considered a boogeyman after making 5 consecutive opponents quit, and all his victories were by KO also. That distinction should be taken with a grain of salt though, because those opponents were unknown fringe contenders. Paro was a massive underdog, so anybody who bet on him will have made a good profit. He has become an upset specialist. I’m sure if he fights Teofimo, Haney, or Pitbull Cruz, he will also be an underdog but it might be worth taking the risk considering his track record and that all of the champions are very beatable.

I also can't find the highlights as I was not able to watch the fight because of the "Father's day" celebration,  Smiley. So I was quite surprised when I see it in my feed my morning time that Paro pulled a upset win in front of Matias fans as he was awarded a unanimous decision.

It was said that Matias can't get things in this fight, and usually if that happens, boxer who just rely on their power and can't hit their target have no plan B. And maybe this is what happen in this fight, Matias was really at lost at how good Paro avoiding his power shots and so that's the story throughout and Paro just taking points every round to win in the judges scorecard.

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I also can't find the highlights as I was not able to watch the fight because of the "Father's day" celebration,  Smiley. So I was quite surprised when I see it in my feed my morning time that Paro pulled a upset win in front of Matias fans as he was awarded a unanimous decision.

It was said that Matias can't get things in this fight, and usually if that happens, boxer who just rely on their power and can't hit their target have no plan B. And maybe this is what happen in this fight, Matias was really at lost at how good Paro avoiding his power shots and so that's the story throughout and Paro just taking points every round to win in the judges scorecard.

Many have not seen the highlights I just rely on what I read, DAZN delayed posting the highlights on their channel but here it is

HIGHLIGHTS | Subriel Matias vs. Liam Paro

Lian Paro employed a tactical fight and made a lot of adjustments that threw Subriel's game plan, Subriel could not keep up with Paro's movement, and Paro always had an answer on every Subriel attack, it hard to score the game as a draw as Paro is in command throughout the fight.

It's hard to beat a pressure fighter but in this case, Paro studied Subriel's movement so he could counter his attack and moves, I was rooting for Subriel as I want him to fight Tank Davis but with this loss he needs to prove himself again.


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June 17, 2024, 04:54:49 PM
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I also can't find the highlights as I was not able to watch the fight because of the "Father's day" celebration,  Smiley. So I was quite surprised when I see it in my feed my morning time that Paro pulled a upset win in front of Matias fans as he was awarded a unanimous decision.

It was said that Matias can't get things in this fight, and usually if that happens, boxer who just rely on their power and can't hit their target have no plan B. And maybe this is what happen in this fight, Matias was really at lost at how good Paro avoiding his power shots and so that's the story throughout and Paro just taking points every round to win in the judges scorecard.

Many have not seen the highlights I just rely on what I read, DAZN delayed posting the highlights on their channel but here it is

HIGHLIGHTS | Subriel Matias vs. Liam Paro

Lian Paro employed a tactical fight and made a lot of adjustments that threw Subriel's game plan, Subriel could not keep up with Paro's movement, and Paro always had an answer on every Subriel attack, it hard to score the game as a draw as Paro is in command throughout the fight.

It's hard to beat a pressure fighter but in this case, Paro studied Subriel's movement so he could counter his attack and moves, I was rooting for Subriel as I want him to fight Tank Davis but with this loss he needs to prove himself again.

Paro and his team really stick to their game plan here and really put Subriel in a uncomfortable situation. And with that head and foot movement, Matias can't find his target and it was good to see Paro was able to sustain that in the 12 rounds.

So for now, even if Paro has been out for sometime, and we thought that it was over for him as there was a lot of hype until he got injured. Now it seems that he is 100% full of confidence and now the champion. Would like to see his style against Teo Lopez. So let's see who's next for Paro and it seems that Australia has another world champion.

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June 17, 2024, 05:30:48 PM
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Paro and his team really stick to their game plan here and really put Subriel in a uncomfortable situation. And with that head and foot movement, Matias can't find his target and it was good to see Paro was able to sustain that in the 12 rounds.



Yeah I finally saw the fight and he is very convincing with his win, it's a humiliating gloss for Subriel but in his interview, he offered no excuses I'm sure he will be back, he now knows what's wrong with his style, it's not all about the power he also needs movements based on what I see Subriel is a very slow started and only picks up the fight after the 5th round this is not good, every round is important because even if you have the power you can't expect that all your opponents will yield to it if they have the skill to avoid it.

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Paro and his team really stick to their game plan here and really put Subriel in a uncomfortable situation. And with that head and foot movement, Matias can't find his target and it was good to see Paro was able to sustain that in the 12 rounds.

So for now, even if Paro has been out for sometime, and we thought that it was over for him as there was a lot of hype until he got injured. Now it seems that he is 100% full of confidence and now the champion. Would like to see his style against Teo Lopez. So let's see who's next for Paro and it seems that Australia has another world champion.

Yes, he is beaming with confidence and after beating Subriel he declared himself the captain of the Super Lightweight, do you think it is an overstatement just because he beat one of the most feared men in boxing, do you think that he is a much better boxer and accomplished more than what Haney, Pitbull and Teofimo Lopez have accomplishment as a boxer.

I don't think he is, he is drowning in his success, Teofimo and Haney were former undisputed champions and he just beat one champion, I don't see Paro having a better resume on the Super Lightweight champions but I'm sure Pitbull Cruz will accomplish what Subriel Matias failed to do if ever they meet and I hope they do.

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June 18, 2024, 09:25:07 PM
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Paro and his team really stick to their game plan here and really put Subriel in a uncomfortable situation. And with that head and foot movement, Matias can't find his target and it was good to see Paro was able to sustain that in the 12 rounds.

So for now, even if Paro has been out for sometime, and we thought that it was over for him as there was a lot of hype until he got injured. Now it seems that he is 100% full of confidence and now the champion. Would like to see his style against Teo Lopez. So let's see who's next for Paro and it seems that Australia has another world champion.

Yes, he is beaming with confidence and after beating Subriel he declared himself the captain of the Super Lightweight, do you think it is an overstatement just because he beat one of the most feared men in boxing, do you think that he is a much better boxer and accomplished more than what Haney, Pitbull and Teofimo Lopez have accomplishment as a boxer.

I don't think he is, he is drowning in his success, Teofimo and Haney were former undisputed champions and he just beat one champion, I don't see Paro having a better resume on the Super Lightweight champions but I'm sure Pitbull Cruz will accomplish what Subriel Matias failed to do if ever they meet and I hope they do.

AFTER UPSETTING SUBRIEL MATIAS, LIAM PARO DECLARES HE IS ‘THE CAPTAIN’ OF THE JUNIOR WELTERWEIGHTS

I wouldn't call that Matias is the most feared boxer at 140 lbs, the thing with him is that he is relatively unknown as compare to other champions like Teo, Haney and Pitbull Cruz and that's why they avoided him because there could be no money in that fight.

For Paro, we can understand that he is elated to upset and beat Matias, but it could a different game for him if he goes against the like of Teo and Devin Haney as we all know that this fighters are very much technical and has high boxing IQ than him.

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June 18, 2024, 10:48:58 PM
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I also can't find the highlights as I was not able to watch the fight because of the "Father's day" celebration,  Smiley. So I was quite surprised when I see it in my feed my morning time that Paro pulled a upset win in front of Matias fans as he was awarded a unanimous decision.

It was said that Matias can't get things in this fight, and usually if that happens, boxer who just rely on their power and can't hit their target have no plan B. And maybe this is what happen in this fight, Matias was really at lost at how good Paro avoiding his power shots and so that's the story throughout and Paro just taking points every round to win in the judges scorecard.

Many have not seen the highlights I just rely on what I read, DAZN delayed posting the highlights on their channel but here it is

HIGHLIGHTS | Subriel Matias vs. Liam Paro

Lian Paro employed a tactical fight and made a lot of adjustments that threw Subriel's game plan, Subriel could not keep up with Paro's movement, and Paro always had an answer on every Subriel attack, it hard to score the game as a draw as Paro is in command throughout the fight.

It's hard to beat a pressure fighter but in this case, Paro studied Subriel's movement so he could counter his attack and moves, I was rooting for Subriel as I want him to fight Tank Davis but with this loss he needs to prove himself again.

Yeah, I watch that highlights and this is what I've noticed and it was a good strategy for the trainer of Paro,

a. Don't go overboard with his punch, just enough to touch Matias and at least feel the power
b. That upper cut that he throws was very effective as Matias is going with that shell defense of him
c. Hug and clinch if Matias is coming of if he has enough combination
d. Fight in the center of the ring
e. Paro has good chin, I was surprised, in round 3-4 Matias hit him, snap his head but his back to throw more

So again, they really have a lot of time to study Matias in this fight. There is no excuses that Matias can't throw in this fight, he did try at round 2 already. But it doesn't have any effect of Paro and then Paro just stick to his game plan for the rest of the fight. So kudos to his trainer for this great strategy and betting Matias in his own game at his own home court.

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By the way this link is not working in my end.  Smiley

Anyway, what an upset! Paro was a 7/1 underdog coming into the fight, but he pushed his way to defeat the champion by making him exhausted and got the UD win. However, calling himself a captain is absurd, as I don't think his style will last in this division or allow him to unify a belt among champions. Liam Robert Paro's style is similar to that of Kambosos or Jeff Horn; they love to attack, but when matched against a technical boxer, they struggle. Nonetheless, let him enjoy his success now and boost his confidence since he did a great job.

On the betting side, that was x10 on the kind of victory he had.

https://www.sportingnews.com/au/boxing/news/subriel-matias-vs-liam-paro-odds-predictions-betting-trends/9db3477734ae254782095f7b

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By the way this link is not working in my end.  Smiley

Anyway, what an upset! Paro was a 7/1 underdog coming into the fight, but he pushed his way to defeat the champion by making him exhausted and got the UD win. However, calling himself a captain is absurd, as I don't think his style will last in this division or allow him to unify a belt among champions. Liam Robert Paro's style is similar to that of Kambosos or Jeff Horn; they love to attack, but when matched against a technical boxer, they struggle. Nonetheless, let him enjoy his success now and boost his confidence since he did a great job.

On the betting side, that was x10 on the kind of victory he had.

https://www.sportingnews.com/au/boxing/news/subriel-matias-vs-liam-paro-odds-predictions-betting-trends/9db3477734ae254782095f7b

That's ego though, I mean yeah you beat Matias but there are other champions in this divisions as well that is far good than Matias, so you don't want to put this victory and call yourself the captain. I do agree, I'm seeing a combination of Kambosos on him when he fought Teo Lopez and beat him and then the Jeff Horn, hugging after a good him from his upset win against Manny Pacquiao. Let's see how Matias will go and make a comeback, he is still good with power, he just need to be flexible and adapt as there are no changes in him in the first 4 rounds when thing are not falling for him. The corner should encourage him to throw more and keep his hands busy as he is losing the fight from that early as Paro is hitting him and scoring on the judges scorecard.

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By the way this link is not working in my end.  Smiley

Anyway, what an upset! Paro was a 7/1 underdog coming into the fight, but he pushed his way to defeat the champion by making him exhausted and got the UD win. However, calling himself a captain is absurd, as I don't think his style will last in this division or allow him to unify a belt among champions. Liam Robert Paro's style is similar to that of Kambosos or Jeff Horn; they love to attack, but when matched against a technical boxer, they struggle. Nonetheless, let him enjoy his success now and boost his confidence since he did a great job.

On the betting side, that was x10 on the kind of victory he had.

https://www.sportingnews.com/au/boxing/news/subriel-matias-vs-liam-paro-odds-predictions-betting-trends/9db3477734ae254782095f7b

That's ego though, I mean yeah you beat Matias but there are other champions in this divisions as well that is far good than Matias, so you don't want to put this victory and call yourself the captain. I do agree, I'm seeing a combination of Kambosos on him when he fought Teo Lopez and beat him and then the Jeff Horn, hugging after a good him from his upset win against Manny Pacquiao.
I guess that's really the style of Australian boxers. They like to brawl in the ring to tire their opponents, but they aren't really fast. They just rely on their power and stamina. So, let's see how far this current champion can go against the other champions in the same division. He called himself a captain; he must be underestimating the other champions.


Let's see how Matias will go and make a comeback, he is still good with power, he just need to be flexible and adapt as there are no changes in him in the first 4 rounds when thing are not falling for him. The corner should encourage him to throw more and keep his hands busy as he is losing the fight from that early as Paro is hitting him and scoring on the judges scorecard.

We can't deny that Paro threw more punches than him, and it seems like Matias was really outboxed by a heavy underdog. I have not seen the fight, just the highlights, but let me ask: was there any mention of a rematch for this fight or not? Because if there's a rematch, that would be good for Matias as he would have a chance to reclaim his title if he corrects his mistakes. But if there's none, then Paro should go for a unification fight.

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By the way this link is not working in my end.  Smiley

Anyway, what an upset! Paro was a 7/1 underdog coming into the fight, but he pushed his way to defeat the champion by making him exhausted and got the UD win. However, calling himself a captain is absurd, as I don't think his style will last in this division or allow him to unify a belt among champions. Liam Robert Paro's style is similar to that of Kambosos or Jeff Horn; they love to attack, but when matched against a technical boxer, they struggle. Nonetheless, let him enjoy his success now and boost his confidence since he did a great job.

On the betting side, that was x10 on the kind of victory he had.

https://www.sportingnews.com/au/boxing/news/subriel-matias-vs-liam-paro-odds-predictions-betting-trends/9db3477734ae254782095f7b

That's ego though, I mean yeah you beat Matias but there are other champions in this divisions as well that is far good than Matias, so you don't want to put this victory and call yourself the captain. I do agree, I'm seeing a combination of Kambosos on him when he fought Teo Lopez and beat him and then the Jeff Horn, hugging after a good him from his upset win against Manny Pacquiao. Let's see how Matias will go and make a comeback, he is still good with power, he just need to be flexible and adapt as there are no changes in him in the first 4 rounds when thing are not falling for him. The corner should encourage him to throw more and keep his hands busy as he is losing the fight from that early as Paro is hitting him and scoring on the judges scorecard.

Australian know also be known to be a brawler, but in any case, I do agree that they have a better plan that Matias. Subriel just come in flat footed and maybe thinking very confident since he is at home. He try many times in the fight to rally at some point, but Paro had answered to all of that and yes, the bread and butter uppercut keeps connecting on Matias and he had no answer once Paro will throw volume punches although it's not hurting Subriel.

Really hard to motivate him in the corner if he is not really letting his hands so and they just let Paro smothered him and then will go and hug and so Matias is at lost and he can't get anything.

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We can't deny that Paro threw more punches than him, and it seems like Matias was really outboxed by a heavy underdog. I have not seen the fight, just the highlights, but let me ask: was there any mention of a rematch for this fight or not? Because if there's a rematch, that would be good for Matias as he would have a chance to reclaim his title if he corrects his mistakes. But if there's none, then Paro should go for a unification fight.

Unfortunately, there is no rematch clause this is quite unusual for a contract in every championship match the champion has the luxury of a rematch being the champion but it is rare to see a no rematch clause, even if the challenger overwhelms the champion the rematch happens this is why trilogy happens.

If there is a rematch clause I'm sure Matias will find a way to beat Paro, but his camp is too confident that Paro cannot beat Matias, the rematch is every champion's luxury but they prefer not to include it, Matias should learn his lesson to avail that privilege next time that he is a champion.
The prerogative now for a rematch is on Paro unless the IBF makes Matias a mandatory challenger.

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We can't deny that Paro threw more punches than him, and it seems like Matias was really outboxed by a heavy underdog. I have not seen the fight, just the highlights, but let me ask: was there any mention of a rematch for this fight or not? Because if there's a rematch, that would be good for Matias as he would have a chance to reclaim his title if he corrects his mistakes. But if there's none, then Paro should go for a unification fight.

Unfortunately, there is no rematch clause this is quite unusual for a contract in every championship match the champion has the luxury of a rematch being the champion but it is rare to see a no rematch clause, even if the challenger overwhelms the champion the rematch happens this is why trilogy happens.

It's because Subriel Matias is very confident that he can beat Paro. Liam is 7:1 underdog going into this fight and it was being held at Matias Puerto Rico, and most likely Matias got the lion share of the purse as well. But if Matias wanted a rematch, then maybe Paro can get it to him but it should not be in in Paro's choice, most likely in Australia and Paro being the champion now, is the A-side.

If there is a rematch clause I'm sure Matias will find a way to beat Paro, but his camp is too confident that Paro cannot beat Matias, the rematch is every champion's luxury but they prefer not to include it, Matias should learn his lesson to avail that privilege next time that he is a champion.
The prerogative now for a rematch is on Paro unless the IBF makes Matias a mandatory challenger.

That's going to be the obvious, he will go and try to reclaim his belt. However, I think Paro has gotten his numbers also and their could be some psyche war as well as Paro has beaten and dominated him. As per rating, Richardson Hitchins is the number 1 and could be the mandatory or the recent winner, Jack Catterall. I'll be more interested of Catterall vs Paro, as Jack could also been a champion as well if Taylor has rematch him with Josh had the belt.

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June 19, 2024, 01:18:18 PM
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It's because Subriel Matias is very confident that he can beat Paro. Liam is 7:1 underdog going into this fight and it was being held at Matias Puerto Rico, and most likely Matias got the lion share of the purse as well. But if Matias wanted a rematch, then maybe Paro can get it to him but it should not be in in Paro's choice, most likely in Australia and Paro being the champion now, is the A-side.


That could be the reason and Matias doesn't want to waste his time anymore. But actually, it's mostly the champion would ask for a rematch, and I'm just wondering if he could ask for rematch although it's not stated in the contract. I'm sure Paro will not decline especially that he already beat Matias via unanimous decision, so that fight fight created the hype, then the rematch will get even more viewers which means better paycheck  for him.

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then the rematch will get even more viewers which means better paycheck  for him.
Yes, it's definitely the crowds and the money, I dare say both of those things will be double than before, even though boxing is over and even though there are no official records of re-betting yet, but Liam Paro is already hinting at something.

For example: one source says.
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Liam Paro also indicated that he was ready to have a rematch with Subriel Matias. But he wants the duel to be held in Queensland, in Australia. “Let's finish it there,” he said. 

Indeed, there has been no response from Subriel Matias, regarding Liam Paro's response, we will wait or react in the next few days/weeks from Subriel, whether he responds positively or negatively, but if re-betting is done in Australia, it will be more exciting in the boxing arena, but the chances of re-betting are slim.

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June 20, 2024, 12:08:06 PM
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It's because Subriel Matias is very confident that he can beat Paro. Liam is 7:1 underdog going into this fight and it was being held at Matias Puerto Rico, and most likely Matias got the lion share of the purse as well. But if Matias wanted a rematch, then maybe Paro can get it to him but it should not be in in Paro's choice, most likely in Australia and Paro being the champion now, is the A-side.


That could be the reason and Matias doesn't want to waste his time anymore. But actually, it's mostly the champion would ask for a rematch, and I'm just wondering if he could ask for rematch although it's not stated in the contract. I'm sure Paro will not decline especially that he already beat Matias via unanimous decision, so that fight fight created the hype, then the rematch will get even more viewers which means better paycheck  for him.
Surprisingly Matias in his post-fight interview did not ask for a rematch, he just said that he was humiliated, he did not offer any excuse and promised would do better next time, based on what we all see it doesn't deserve a rematch although if there is a clause in the contract Paro is obliged to follow what's on the contract.

This is one of the rare times that we have seen a major upset that happens in the favorite fighter's hometown.
I still believe that Matias can work his way up again, it's different when you have knockout power, you can always deliver,  he just needs a good trainer, his being a pressure fighter is good, style makes a fight and Paro's style proved to be effective against a pressure fighter like Paro

By the way, this is the result of the poll :

Subriel Matias by KO   - 5 (83.3%)
Subriel Matias by Decision   - 0 (0%)
Liam Paro by KO   - 0 (0%)
Liam Paro by Decision   - 1 (16.7%)
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Total Voters: 6

I'm looking forward to creating a discussion on these two great boxers in the future.

Locking this thread and thank you for all your great insight and opinion

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