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June 19, 2024, 10:11:11 AM
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Just as Lucius as stated above, I think humans are underestimating their own capabilities. It's so sad that some people have put about 99.99% trust on this technology, allowing AI to do our reasoning and other sh*t.


Perhaps the goal of AI development is precisely that people become as less creative as possible, that they think as little as possible and that in the end they do exactly what the AI ​​advises them. I personally see it as one of the ways to dehumanize human society in addition to everything that is already present in so-called modern societies.

I can't remember any case in the science fiction where AI and ultimately humanoid robots powered by AI doing anything good for humans - on the contrary, it always ends up very bad. Humans will obviously not rest until they invent something that will be superior to humans, but if you give someone consciousness, then it is only a matter of time when humans will be perceived by those same creatures as a lower species.

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June 19, 2024, 10:16:22 AM
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The fact that majority are wrong doesn't means Ai will also follow suites after all they were created to improve humanity but unfortunately they have failed in some key areas, a clear example is  this and the dev also still has a take in this blame.
They were invented to make things easier not to improve humanity. Artificial intelligence functions by learning from us and refining answers, so when you ask AI to give you a good R&B beat, the AI does not start singing from heart but checks what humans consider sch best to be, collates lots of answers and gives you the best possible one it can compile, if the general idea of what such a best should be, AI cannot correct that.

Those concerned about privacy, self custody anv verifiable softwares make up the minority still.
You're missing something here making things easier is just similar to improving humanity.

Ai ought not to stand with majority but what's right the dev ought to give them the right data or at least create them in a way they could remember after they're corrected.

Let me give an example, in terms of Calendar many takes AD as After death whereas it means Anno Domini I bet when you ask Ai they'll give Anno Domini as the correct one simply because the dev gave them the right data there for it. See another reason here, why blameis on the dev

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June 19, 2024, 11:42:36 AM
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All of them are not more than Google-like with fake information. I am disappointed to try this the first time to know that it can mislead people.

You shouldn't be disappointed because these softwares are being developed by human who are bound to make mistakes. Much should not be expected from it and moreover, if you check their term of service there is disclaimer notice that the software may make mistakes and one should not rely on every information they provided.

I think they are just save for risk free and less important information that is not related to finance. They are meant to provide simple and quick guide in case you have no means to access the right source, they will give clue to what you are looking for. However, the technology is just developing at their early stage and would probably do better as they advance.

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June 19, 2024, 11:59:32 AM
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Actually getting information about cryptocurrencies especially bitcoin right from Ai will be among the most easiest ways to see in the flaws in them, I wonder what kind of data they feed them to make them like this I guessed this goes down to the dev.
For those who still rely on AI, from this topic the answer can be found that relying on AI can be "dangerous" in terms of finding information because the truth of the information provided can be misleading. Regardless of the form of questions asked by the user.

I am confused why people who are active here still rely on this technology. I mean, AI technology can indeed be helped and I will not ignore it, but not for all lines.

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June 19, 2024, 02:59:26 PM
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All of them are not more than Google-like with fake information. I am disappointed to try this the first time to know that it can mislead people.

I am with you on this, I have known about the fact that AI often messes up with their answer especially when it relies on the recent information that is circulating the internet.  Since there are lots of fake news and misinformation lurking on the internet, any inquiry on AI application that relies directly on the internet will more likely give us mixed information including fake news and wrong information.  And if we dig deeply into the question, this kind of AI will eventually admit that its knowledge is limited and the information it gives maybe wrong.

I think it is much better to use an AI that is fed with verified information and stored in a database, although it might be lagging in updates, at least any question asked has a high chance of being answered correctly.

For those who still rely on AI, from this topic the answer can be found that relying on AI can be "dangerous" in terms of finding information because the truth of the information provided can be misleading. Regardless of the form of questions asked by the user.

True that since most AI today's rely on the internet with lots of fake information, using this kind of AI may inevitably spread wrong information to those who are seeking knowledge but are lazy to verify the information they gathered.

I am confused why people who are active here still rely on this technology. I mean, AI technology can indeed be helped and I will not ignore it, but not for all lines.

It is a no-brainer that people rely on AI for convenience and speed.  It can easily retrieve information from a database and make a piece of complete information regarding the subject matter.  As long as the saved inputs on the database are correct and verified, it will speed up any research and activities several times.

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June 19, 2024, 06:15:24 PM
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I am confused why people who are active here still rely on this technology. I mean, AI technology can indeed be helped and I will not ignore it, but not for all lines.

It is a no-brainer that people rely on AI for convenience and speed.  It can easily retrieve information from a database and make a piece of complete information regarding the subject matter.  As long as the saved inputs on the database are correct and verified, it will speed up any research and activities several times.

Which doesn't happen when you ask questions that will force the AI to search for subjective and biased information. After the recent massive hype, many people is disappointed with the results to questions like these.

AI is great for other tasks like lab research, creation of drafts,... but when you need more complex answers to questions where critical thinking comes into play, the current results are quite useless, as the OP shows.

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June 19, 2024, 06:39:02 PM
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Ai ought not to stand with majority but what's right the dev ought to give them the right data or at least create them in a way they could remember after they're corrected.
The developers cannot possibly programme the software with all possible answers and keep updating that. There are a gazzilion possible questions someone can as AI and the answers can only be gotten from crawling the internet.
Not all questions are facts, some are subjective so there can be different possible corrections and the AI will choose the majority opinion all of the time.

Let me give an example, in terms of Calendar many takes AD as After death whereas it means Anno Domini I bet when you ask Ai they'll give Anno Domini as the correct one simply because the dev gave them the right data there for it. See another reason here, why blameis on the dev
Search up what AD means and all the results say it is Anno Domini, that's where the software gets its answers. It's only commonly used as "After death" in conversations, but almost all research articles term it correctly.

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June 19, 2024, 08:03:03 PM
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Ai ought not to stand with majority but what's right the dev ought to give them the right data or at least create them in a way they could remember after they're corrected.
The developers cannot possibly programme the software with all possible answers and keep updating that. There are a gazzilion possible questions someone can as AI and the answers can only be gotten from crawling the internet.
Not all questions are facts, some are subjective so there can be different possible corrections and the AI will choose the majority opinion all of the time.
This is true but there should be a scale of preference to this, if the dev actually prioritise Bitcoin or some security aspects of cryptocurrencies this would have been corrected.

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Let me give an example, in terms of Calendar many takes AD as After death whereas it means Anno Domini I bet when you ask Ai they'll give Anno Domini as the correct one simply because the dev gave them the right data there for it. See another reason here, why blameis on the dev
Search up what AD means and all the results say it is Anno Domini, that's where the software gets its answers. It's only commonly used as "After death" in conversations, but almost all research articles term it correctly.
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Yea this is true but I know there would still be an aspect were things differ like Gemini for example was made in such a way it can't totally support critics about Google especially about the aspect of users data, it will find a way to defend it while others Ai like Chat gpt may accept your claims, which is a proof tge dev are still picky of the data they accept

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June 19, 2024, 10:18:14 PM
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Meta considers their AI as very smart but it's not that much smart by any means. I know in some disciplines the AI can provide useful information for some students but in the filed of crypto currencies and Bitcoin, it doesn't provide useful information and that's why crypto users should avoid taking any help from the AI.

AI generated content about cryptocurrencies and Bitcoin is wrong and that's why Bitcointalk community strongly dislikes AI generated content and reports it as soon as they find it. Even moderators are ready to act of those reports and delete the posts that contain AI generated content.

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Explore Ai like this is fun, but searching for a topic like his we must have our own command promp, I mean clarified (background, characteristics / in more detail each result that appears). I used to search about the idea of looking for free bitcoin and what came up was just general words that can be understood by all people including beginners who are new to bitcoin, the uniqueness of bitcoin with different types of addresses makes it necessary in the current era, because in cex also not all support and identical only a few such as legacy, lightning and maybe there are those who already support bip-39 etc. maybe that is often used that segwit native. As long as you don't import important phrases or data for fun to search in ai I think it can be for light research. Although I have to search in this forum it is better here and safe meaning for education and effective interaction than ai, ai is just for fun one of which is to see trends and other fundamental news that might affect the bitcoin rely.


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Meta considers their AI as very smart but it's not that much smart by any means. I know in some disciplines the AI can provide useful information for some students but in the filed of crypto currencies and Bitcoin, it doesn't provide useful information and that's why crypto users should avoid taking any help from the AI.

AI generated content about cryptocurrencies and Bitcoin is wrong and that's why Bitcointalk community strongly dislikes AI generated content and reports it as soon as they find it. Even moderators are ready to act of those reports and delete the posts that contain AI generated content.
Yes you are right I also do not think Meta AI is as smart as we claim. It might be good at some things like we can get any historical information or it can be good for students too but it does not know much about cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin. People interested in crypto should be careful when using AI generated information because it is mostly wrong or misleading mostly when we ask about future prediction. I also mostly saw that Bitcointalk community does not trust AI generated content and mostly members hate it. It is good to get information from trusted sources and experts in field to make informed decisions and avoid potential problems with AI.

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June 20, 2024, 07:10:52 AM
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Well, what did you expect, it is generative AI. It is trained on other text from the internet, so what the AI is doing is that it is giving you someone else's text that they wrote on the internet and giving it to you verbatim, along with an introduction and an ending remark.

The other AIs like ChatGPT and Gemini work like this too. It is a fundamental limitation of AGI, and the reason why we won't see any "sentient" or "conscious" intelligence anytime soon.

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June 20, 2024, 07:25:41 AM
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Maybe clear and well structured questions or prompts may lead to better answers from AI? I think you'll get better answers if you ask better questions or provide better prompts. Even for us humans, if someone asks questions that we don't really understand, we also give unclear answers.

I want to use Meta AI, but it isn't available in my country right now. I want to try the same question you asked with a different prompt like disregard the data from the web and will base it own datas. Maybe I'll get different answers.

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June 20, 2024, 07:33:34 AM
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When it comes to using AI to get facts, it's best you already have some piece of information handy regarding what you're asking for, and whatever comes up in addition to what the AI feeds you with can just serve as a guide to making your findings. ChatGPT and meta AI have a lot of limitations in terms of the information they feed their users and it shows glairing from this context that once it's outside of what they are developed to solve, they immediately search for similar questions from the net and bring up a likely preferred answer and its source to you.

Did same search on the meta AI that's on Facebook and WhatsApp and got theses results.





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June 20, 2024, 06:22:58 PM
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I am confused why people who are active here still rely on this technology. I mean, AI technology can indeed be helped and I will not ignore it, but not for all lines.
It is a no-brainer that people rely on AI for convenience and speed.  It can easily retrieve information from a database and make a piece of complete information regarding the subject matter.  As long as the saved inputs on the database are correct and verified, it will speed up any research and activities several times.
For workers in several fields, AI assistance is very helpful in creating work reports by entering several keywords that match the desired data so that in a short time their report is ready without having to type manually.
Many workers in the service sector also take advantage of this convenience. Even though it helps, for me it doesn't have to be prioritized in all activities because our brains need to be sharpened to be normal as humans.

In the field of technology, AI is not a solution because it requires us to review everything that is provided, although I have not tried to use it in some of the work I do outside the forum.

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