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July 23, 2024, 09:53:42 AM
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There was this movie I watched about two partners of one business. One of them has about 70% of the capital that was used to start the business, while the other person has only 30%. But they had some agreement that if there is any conflict in the future, only one person will continue the company, while the other person will be settled with an agreed percentage. 

This is really serious, for some one to contribute 70% capital in the business the person is the only of the business in real life because 70% is more than half of the money they was contributed by the other person who happens to be his business partner. In reality, I don't think someone who's bringing a bigger amount of capital to start up a business will involve in a legal agreement that involves settlement of one person of there arose a conflict amongst them rather the person will either choose to settle the person that brought in 30% then take over the business because he brought in a bigger amount that helped in the establishment of the business.

In this case it is also difficult to say who will face higher risks. Because if the startup is not successful, the person who contributes 30% of the capital will lose less, but if the business succeeds as expected, this person will have to face more risks. I think that's fair, it's nothing as serious as you're worried about. If the partner contributes up to 70% of the capital, it means that they will have much greater risks than you, so it is understandable that they will have an advantage over you.

In business, think about the failure scenario and who will suffer greater losses, don't just look at the profit aspect and think that we are worse off than them.

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July 23, 2024, 01:51:17 PM
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There was this movie I watched about two partners of one business. One of them has about 70% of the capital that was used to start the business, while the other person has only 30%. But they had some agreement that if there is any conflict in the future, only one person will continue the company, while the other person will be settled with an agreed percentage. 

This is really serious, for some one to contribute 70% capital in the business the person is the only of the business in real life because 70% is more than half of the money they was contributed by the other person who happens to be his business partner. In reality, I don't think someone who's bringing a bigger amount of capital to start up a business will involve in a legal agreement that involves settlement of one person of there arose a conflict amongst them rather the person will either choose to settle the person that brought in 30% then take over the business because he brought in a bigger amount that helped in the establishment of the business.

In this case it is also difficult to say who will face higher risks. Because if the startup is not successful, the person who contributes 30% of the capital will lose less, but if the business succeeds as expected, this person will have to face more risks. I think that's fair, it's nothing as serious as you're worried about. If the partner contributes up to 70% of the capital, it means that they will have much greater risks than you, so it is understandable that they will have an advantage over you.

In business, think about the failure scenario and who will suffer greater losses, don't just look at the profit aspect and think that we are worse off than them.

That's why sometimes its not good to take a partner while your starting up with your business. But if the partnership is well discuss and all the risk has been presented and they are still interested to invest on your business then why not right? Its good to have partner since for sure with that you can get good help especially for taking good ideas to make the business became more successful. Although there's big risk to lose especially if the taken partner is not good businessman then provably a total struggle towards building up our business will be there and chances to get failed is also high.

That's why picking up he right person is needed since if the business is new then a proper marketing or any other else needed to do so that all of you would gain success on the business field they have chosen.

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July 23, 2024, 08:50:54 PM
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There was this movie I watched about two partners of one business. One of them has about 70% of the capital that was used to start the business, while the other person has only 30%. But they had some agreement that if there is any conflict in the future, only one person will continue the company, while the other person will be settled with an agreed percentage. 

This is really serious, for some one to contribute 70% capital in the business the person is the only of the business in real life because 70% is more than half of the money they was contributed by the other person who happens to be his business partner. In reality, I don't think someone who's bringing a bigger amount of capital to start up a business will involve in a legal agreement that involves settlement of one person of there arose a conflict amongst them rather the person will either choose to settle the person that brought in 30% then take over the business because he brought in a bigger amount that helped in the establishment of the business.

In this case it is also difficult to say who will face higher risks. Because if the startup is not successful, the person who contributes 30% of the capital will lose less, but if the business succeeds as expected, this person will have to face more risks. I think that's fair, it's nothing as serious as you're worried about. If the partner contributes up to 70% of the capital, it means that they will have much greater risks than you, so it is understandable that they will have an advantage over you.

In business, think about the failure scenario and who will suffer greater losses, don't just look at the profit aspect and think that we are worse off than them.

That's why sometimes its not good to take a partner while your starting up with your business. But if the partnership is well discuss and all the risk has been presented and they are still interested to invest on your business then why not right? Its good to have partner since for sure with that you can get good help especially for taking good ideas to make the business became more successful. Although there's big risk to lose especially if the taken partner is not good businessman then provably a total struggle towards building up our business will be there and chances to get failed is also high.

That's why picking up he right person is needed since if the business is new then a proper marketing or any other else needed to do so that all of you would gain success on the business field they have chosen.
Partnerships does have its advantages and disadvantages and this is why it would really be that important that you should really be making up some proper plans whether you would really be going into partnership or you would really be going solo. There are really times or moments that we are in short of budget for capital and this is why some people would really be having that kind of steps or actions be taken since they do know that when it comes to this aspect then you could really be able to make up some business in together with someone who do really have the same plans or having that the same targets or goals that they do have in mind.
The challenge on here is on how you would really be finding up that someone? We do know that usually the main issue on here is about trust since we are talking about money.

People would really be that skeptical when it comes to this manner because they cant really just that make themselves to have those easy partnerships not unless if the said business proposal
would really be something that exceptional but if it turns out to be not so good then dont expect that you would really be able to get one. As a business entrepreneur then it would really be just that impossible
that you cant really be able to point out on what are those things which could easy to happen and whats not.

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July 24, 2024, 02:07:59 AM
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I was reading about partnership business and I came across this article somewhere, we’ve all heard the horror stories about business partnerships gone wrong – disagreements, legal battles, and even, in extreme cases, assassinations. But on the flip side, we see famed partnerships in developed countries that have stood the test of time and grown into industry giants. Think of Google, founded by Larry Page and Sergey Brin, or Apple, started by Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak.

Though partnerships can be incredibly rewarding, they aren’t for everyone. If you’re considering entering into one, it’s crucial to be well-informed about the potential risks and benefits.

The reason this happens is because we don't make legally binding rules so that business partners can cheat you. When you choose a business partner, you have to be very selective in choosing and need to test the previous steps they have taken.
To identify business partners who can deliver success, you must know their background and try to gather complete information about them.
Good business partners will not cheat because they pay attention to trust and they prioritize integrity so before making a decision you have to know it first.

Basically, not everything runs normally, some are cheated by business partners and some are successful.
It all depends on how we verify before deciding to take steps towards a business partner.

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July 24, 2024, 08:09:42 AM
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Maybe if partners have different responsibilities and tasks in the business, it will be worth starting business with a partner. For example one is good with finances, other with negotiations. In other cases, they will be "pulling blanket" all the time. But, instead of having a partner, I think it is better to hire a professional who will run business. Why people usually need partners? Because they dont have enough funding for a business. Let that hired professional build business to a size "would have created with partners money". It will take more time, but it will be more safer business.

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July 25, 2024, 04:09:22 PM
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Maybe if partners have different responsibilities and tasks in the business, it will be worth starting business with a partner. For example one is good with finances, other with negotiations. In other cases, they will be "pulling blanket" all the time. But, instead of having a partner, I think it is better to hire a professional who will run business. Why people usually need partners? Because they dont have enough funding for a business. Let that hired professional build business to a size "would have created with partners money". It will take more time, but it will be more safer business.

I was also thinking the same thing about hiring a professional who can manage the business, but I realized that people go into partnership business for different reasons. The common reason is lack of funding from the person who has the original business idea, but for other reasons such as unity of friends and family (wanting to unite your family with your best friend), trust between friends, incompetency to run the business alone, etc., it is best to just hire professional business development personnel that can grow the business efficiently. Even if there should be a partnership, I think it must involve some legal agreements in case there's a conflict in the future. 

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July 25, 2024, 06:03:14 PM
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Maybe if partners have different responsibilities and tasks in the business, it will be worth starting business with a partner. For example one is good with finances, other with negotiations. In other cases, they will be "pulling blanket" all the time. But, instead of having a partner, I think it is better to hire a professional who will run business. Why people usually need partners? Because they dont have enough funding for a business. Let that hired professional build business to a size "would have created with partners money". It will take more time, but it will be more safer business.

I was also thinking the same thing about hiring a professional who can manage the business, but I realized that people go into partnership business for different reasons. The common reason is lack of funding from the person who has the original business idea, but for other reasons such as unity of friends and family (wanting to unite your family with your best friend), trust between friends, incompetency to run the business alone, etc., it is best to just hire professional business development personnel that can grow the business efficiently. Even if there should be a partnership, I think it must involve some legal agreements in case there's a conflict in the future. 

To be honest, the most basic thing in business partnerships in the case of Google and Apple is that they don't have enough funds and don't have enough knowledge, so they need partnerships that can help them and divide the tasks to develop the business so that it is much better, the initial building to a better level of course hiring professionals will not be able to pay salaries and so on, and hiring professionals is also not without risk.

I prefer to build a business through a partnership with someone who has the same principles in developing the business that has been planned and developed, hiring professionals is worth doing when the business is running smoothly and we cannot carry out some of the tasks because of other more important tasks.

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July 25, 2024, 06:37:39 PM
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From my understanding I can accept a partnership business with someone but you have to cross check very well the kind of people that you are making a deal with because without you knowing the exact person that you are pertaining with you might  get into trouble in future, sometimes when you see some companies having issues within themselves the elementary thing that causes such a misunderstanding is because of lack of understanding and sharing formula of for their business so I believe that before you partner will be anybody for any investment to have to have a written agreement or document based on the sharing formula all the percentage of the individual or company per week or per annual before there will be establishment or kick off of partnership

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July 27, 2024, 10:47:25 AM
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From my understanding I can accept a partnership business with someone but you have to cross check very well the kind of people that you are making a deal with because without you knowing the exact person that you are pertaining with you might  get into trouble in future, sometimes when you see some companies having issues within themselves the elementary thing that causes such a misunderstanding is because of lack of understanding and sharing formula of for their business so I believe that before you partner will be anybody for any investment to have to have a written agreement or document based on the sharing formula all the percentage of the individual or company per week or per annual before there will be establishment or kick off of partnership
Before undergoing a business partnership of course everyone will first have a written agreement so that they have a handle when they have run the business and of course they have agreed to the contents of the agreement they have made both in terms of profit and capital that they will use in the business they will run and for some people when running a business have problems because they cannot understand well about the contents of the agreement they have made so that this will make the business relationship they run could end in a bad way of course this will harm one party, so I think it is very important for both parties understand well the contents of the agreement they have made before deciding to run a business together.

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July 29, 2024, 10:50:30 PM
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From my understanding I can accept a partnership business with someone but you have to cross check very well the kind of people that you are making a deal with because without you knowing the exact person that you are pertaining with you might  get into trouble in future, sometimes when you see some companies having issues within themselves the elementary thing that causes such a misunderstanding is because of lack of understanding and sharing formula of for their business so I believe that before you partner will be anybody for any investment to have to have a written agreement or document based on the sharing formula all the percentage of the individual or company per week or per annual before there will be establishment or kick off of partnership
Without a doubt picking the right person is the most important aspect of any partnership, since very often what we see is a smart person having a great idea but no money to make it a reality, and then they pick a partner with a lot of money but that does not really care about their vision, so it does not take long until the person with the original idea is replaced, the rich person keeps everything and then they make a fortune as they make an effort to not pay what they owe to the person that started the business in the first place.
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July 30, 2024, 12:55:23 PM
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Maybe if partners have different responsibilities and tasks in the business, it will be worth starting business with a partner. For example one is good with finances, other with negotiations. In other cases, they will be "pulling blanket" all the time. But, instead of having a partner, I think it is better to hire a professional who will run business. Why people usually need partners? Because they dont have enough funding for a business. Let that hired professional build business to a size "would have created with partners money". It will take more time, but it will be more safer business.

I was also thinking the same thing about hiring a professional who can manage the business, but I realized that people go into partnership business for different reasons. The common reason is lack of funding from the person who has the original business idea, but for other reasons such as unity of friends and family (wanting to unite your family with your best friend), trust between friends, incompetency to run the business alone, etc., it is best to just hire professional business development personnel that can grow the business efficiently. Even if there should be a partnership, I think it must involve some legal agreements in case there's a conflict in the future. 

To be honest, the most basic thing in business partnerships in the case of Google and Apple is that they don't have enough funds and don't have enough knowledge, so they need partnerships that can help them and divide the tasks to develop the business so that it is much better, the initial building to a better level of course hiring professionals will not be able to pay salaries and so on, and hiring professionals is also not without risk.

I prefer to build a business through a partnership with someone who has the same principles in developing the business that has been planned and developed, hiring professionals is worth doing when the business is running smoothly and we cannot carry out some of the tasks because of other more important tasks.
You cant be able to blame out people on why they would really be that skeptical on having partnerships when it comes to business on which they do really have that focus too much about on disadvantage on which its really that actually true but based up on what you have elaborated on which these Giant companies did really start up but we dont really actually do know the story whether they are really running it sole or they did really start up with some partnerships. I havent made out some research therefore i cant be able to conclude on which path they did take on the moment that they had started up, but one things for sure that neither for those ways or methods, then it did really paid off basing up on their success today. Of course there would really be challenges that would be faced up on which it would really be that normal.

If you are tending to build up a business but dont have enough capital then you would really be having that main consideration on needing up some partner on which the same motive and
goals on a certain business. Agreements and terms would really be just that be standard thing to consider.

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Actually, they really worth it must especially when you are running a large business, partnership is a very nice idea for the aim of achieving a specific goals, you have to find someone that is smarter than you and share a lot of ideas together that will serve as a development to the company, find people that you trust, so that they should not dupe you at the end, because some people are not trust wealthy.

When you run a little business it is not necessary for you to involve partner in it, but partnership is needed in a large business, as they said " two good heads are better than one".
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I was reading about partnership business and I came across this article somewhere, we’ve all heard the horror stories about business partnerships gone wrong – disagreements, legal battles, and even, in extreme cases, assassinations.
It is not wrong to have a business partner at all because more hands on deck can bring something great in the end. But is not just about having a business partner it's about having one who is dedicated to the work aside from legally binding and other agreements. Sadly, you have to have a partner and at the end of the day, you will be the only one caring and spending time at the business to make it work. Before getting into a business with someone or a group of people. Always make it clear with your commitment and dont fail to asked for theirs, and lastly let there be consequences for anyone who is not committed. This is how things should work in my opinion to avoid disagreement, conflicts or cheating.



I was reading about partnership business and I came across this article somewhere, we’ve all heard the horror stories about business partnerships gone wrong – disagreements, legal battles, and even, in extreme cases, assassinations.
It is not wrong to have a business partner at all because more hands on deck can bring something great in the end. But is not just about having a business partner it's about having one who is dedicated to the work aside from legally binding and other agreements. Sadly, you have to have a partner and at the end of the day, you will be the only one caring and spending time at the business to make it work. Before getting into a business with someone or a group of people. Always make it clear with your commitment and dont fail to asked for theirs, and lastly let there be consequences for anyone who is not committed. This is how things should work in my opinion to avoid disagreement, conflicts or cheating.


That's right, Well partnership this days are two facet I said this because everyone it's looking for the best for his/her business and would want it to stand out,so partnering with one or more people would give them that priveledge to learn new ideas and strategies inorder to bring theirs to standard,they would learn from your every steps and initiative.

Sometimes most business partners worth it in the sense that they are more business inclined and oriented and would work out modalities to bringing the Best out of it,tho we all know as partnering with another they're would be conflicts, arguments and so on but they'll definitely make sure every Target in bringing the business to success will be accomplished.

So like you said, making it clear to them what you want would it's a good idea tho and on a signed agreement,so there won't be unforseen circumstances of arguments and rivalry.

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