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June 20, 2024, 11:58:54 PM
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I do not encourage anyone to take advantage of his position to cheat in any matter, but I put forward a hypothesis that is more logical if he really intended to cheat. With this foolish behavior, he raises many hypotheses, the most important of which is that he may have been ignorant of the risks of what he was doing, otherwise he would have thought more before taking this step, which I consider very stupid, even if it was intended to deceive. This bodyguard got himself involved easily when he could have cheated better without being involved.
That should be it because of the morale to the job that they're doing shouldn't be taken advantage by their personal issues. He probably don't think that it's going to be big as this with the bet that he's made. Well, he has to take that consequence and I think the risk was there on his mind but still pursued this because of the little money that he might get from it. This will serve to the other bodyguards and other positions that might be taken as advantage for gambling in the bookies.

I am sure that there are many corrupt people like him, but they are not discovered because they certainly know better ways to exploit the information they have. In the case of this bodyguard, the most he can do to defend himself is to continue his denial, under the pretext that someone used his data to register at a casino in order to implicate him.
For sure that there are but they're out of the radar because they're hiding themselves perfectly. And if he's going to deny it, I think that the punishment will be bigger instead of just admiting it and let this case closed by himself and take all of the consequences that won't be favorable to him.

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June 21, 2024, 07:51:26 AM
Last edit: June 21, 2024, 04:22:12 PM by EarnOnVictor
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It makes me wonder about the wage rates the personal bodyguards of a prime minister are, to be honest. If someone is willing to jeopardize their job and the future of their career as a bodyguard, then it must be side the risk of getting caught and get their name tainted is proportional to whatever he is getting from the government of the United Kingdom, don't you think?
The wage may not be so high but the prestige and privileges attached to the position will be enormous, these are not worth losing. And certainly, he will be punished, though it might not be as we think, nonetheless, this will always stain his record book. And after retiring from this job, someone like him may not get any private security job anymore because his record will always haunt him.

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Anyways, when comes to being a bodyguard trust is crucial, I am afraid this guy is going to get in serious trouble if found guilty... He may even miss his job after he realizes what he did.
Hahaha...force and paramilitary have their ways of dealing with this kind of situation. After all, it is not a treasonable offence, I believe he will remain in his job but in a different office. Also, he can either be demoted, suspended, or transferred to a very unfavourable place.

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I assume he heavily betted on the date, enough to get a couple of millions of sterling Pounds, who knows.
I do not assume that because he might not even have access to that kind of big money. What I realise is that he saw an opportunity and he wanted to use it. We are humans and a light risk like that which cannot affect the direct security of the PM can still be thought of, but the issue is that he handled the play unprofessionally. It is not today that leaks are happening that can't be ever traced to who leaked it.

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June 21, 2024, 11:20:17 AM
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The British Prime Minister is so embarrassed about the actions of his insiders that he has promised anyone found guilty of this illegal form of gambling will face the consequences. He is angry because it has been unveiled that many insiders also placed bets on election dates. Conservative Party’s director of campaigning Tony Lee and a police officer were the first to be investigated but it seems that two Tory election candidates - Laura Saunders and Craig Williams are also involved in these illegal acts. Both candidates confirmed that they were being investigated by the Gambling Commission. It seems many of these politicians are corrupt gamblers who want to take advantage of any opportunity to cheat the system.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c844je9nq89o

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June 21, 2024, 07:32:29 PM
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But couldn't he have bet using another identity? I mean, he should ask his wife or someone close to him that he trusts to put the bet in his place so that his name is not involved in the matter. This possibility confirms the stupidity of his doing so, no matter how tempting the amount he might have won.

At the same time, this makes me wonder whether the bodyguard is authorized to see any sensitive state information. Is there a law that prevents people who hold duties in the British administration from placing bets in general? If the accusation is proven, the bodyguard will be accused of using sensitive data obtained as part of his assigned work, and placing a bet is evidence of that and not an accusation in itself.

That way, he would've dragging his family members all into trouble. They would still face same consequences as it will still be obvious that he gave his wife or family the right omes to bet on. So I guess there's no two way around it. My question is how they got to know about his bet. Did he show it to them or his data was leaked by the betting company or they monitor his every move since he works for the prime Minister. If this is true and he knew of such matters that could have resulted,  he wouldn't have made such bets. I really don't see anything wrong in his betting. He just like every other gambler made a bet but his position gave him a condition.

This means it does not have to be one of his relatives who might later be suspected. It could be a close friend or someone else he trusts. At least he could sell the information to any unknown person on the Internet without revealing his identity.
I am now counting the possibilities that this bodyguard could have adopted without harming himself in this way. This means that it is unfortunate for a person to be corrupt and stupid at the same time, and the administration that employed him must review its standards and evaluations regarding human resources because what is more regrettable than employing corrupt people is employing fools.

Now he is accused of betraying his country and revealing secrets related to his job, and I expect that he will be pressured during interrogation, which may expose others to more accountability. We do not forget that the information was shared with the casino in which he registered which knows that he is the bodyguard of a prominent figure. This means that we do not know whether the casino in turn exploited the information in one way or another.

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June 22, 2024, 01:27:20 PM
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If I were in such a situation and was fully aware that such action could implicate me and perhaps tarnish my reputation, I would just save my ass by letting the opportunity slide, or I could give someone else the information and ask them to place the bet on the agreement that we both would share the profit that comes after.
If I were in his situation, I would just make someone do the betting or gambling for me. I would simply provide the information.

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The guard is just trying to make extra bucks for himself, as, due to the inflation rate, the salary he is receiving is not enough to satisfy his needs. I hope the issue doesn't take him to prison, though.
He might also face suspension or dismissal from his job. Sometimes it is not because the salary is not enough, greed usually plays a major role.

Yes, you are right; greed might have birthed his action, but according to the saying, "ignorance is not an excuse for the law." Even if he doesn't go to jail, he will definitely be dismissed from duty, and that's for sure. He has destroyed his reputation by his action and might not be offered any serious job that has to do with trust and honesty. 

I know it's a crime if he also gives the game to someone else to stake in it, but at least it might have kept him undetected and perhaps protected him against the shite he is into right now. If there are 50,000 gamblers who has staked on the date of the election, there will still be only a few people who will luckily get the right date and win the bet. So, if he had given the date for someone to stake, he may not have been detected. 

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August 08, 2024, 03:01:43 AM
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I have not heard of such type of gambling before, but For me there is no big deal there. If gambling involves any kind including betting on which day election will take place, then there is no problem. The only thing that makes it becomes a problem, is because the gambling was made by a body guard of the prime minister which shows that he had a pre knowledge of the said election date. But if it was an outsider who is not close to the prime minister, they wouldn't have took it seriously.

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insider traders and in general all those who take advantage of their social/working position for a personal advantage must clearly be blocked as they create serious discrepancies in the market.
obviously we cannot know if the information was actually true... or if it had an advantage. in any case these are essential choices to have a balanced game.
of course if the user in question had used "crypto" systems he would never have been discovered, this is also a very interesting aspect for future developments Roll Eyes

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Gambling operations are legal in that country and such information is not limited to betting which raises various questions. If the bodyguard of the Prime Minister makes such a bet, if it becomes public, then it is not difficult to understand that he knows the secret information of the Prime Minister, it must be interpreted differently from the general point of view. In my opinion, such a piece of work should not be used as a betting tool. There can be many things to bet but when these things are betted then more problems will arise with them. But whether the bodyguard is really telling the truth or not should also be investigated.

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August 08, 2024, 07:24:15 AM
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Prime Minister Rishi Sunak’s police bodyguards have been arrested over alleged bets on the date of Britain’s national election made before it was announced. In Britain, bets can be placed on any event which includes election dates.

So the Gambling Commission of the country suspects that this security guard to the prime minister had pre-knowledge of the election date which has been kept secret. The police officer will be charged with misconduct because cheating by acting on inside information is a criminal offense.

In another development, Sunak aide Craig Williams is also under investigation by the Gambling Commission for placing a 100 pound ($128) bet on a July election before the date had been announced.

What are your thoughts?

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/rishi-sunaks-bodyguards-arrested-alleged-bets-uk-election-111256193


For me, the case of Mayor Rishi Sunak and assistant police patrolman Craig Williams is not only distasteful but most certainly raises disturbingly some issues of integrity and broken trust between the public and public institutions. It is then alleged that security agents or aides use insider information for personal gains, this erodes public confidence in their operations and in government as a whole. It is important to investigate these people for probable misconduct and fraud to achieve accountability, and the abuses of privacy will not be condoned. The involvement of the Gambling Commission underlines concern for fair play and regulation of the gambling markets, particularly those events replete with sensitive issues. Further, public perception can be added to the events that may not even involve the prime minister or his work. Legal processes should be comprehensive so that public confidence is regained and ethical standards prevail in the public sectors.

For context, the betting on a wide range of events, including election dates, is permitted in Britain, but such betting must be based on publicly available information Charges that were officials have prior knowledge of election dates prior to the public announcement may mean the serious violation of legal and ethical standards Any allegations of potential internal trading are taken very seriously and investigations and legal action are taken is action to maintain fairness in the work

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I would have love to know the amount that he would have won if he wasn’t caught - because I don’t know how much he saw that made him take that kind of a risk. He knew that his bet would be consider a crime since he already have information about the result and yet he went ahead to make his bet putting his whole job career at stake and with his position I don’t think he would be able to get a better one. I just hope they are lenient with him.

Some risks are not worth taking,I tell if it worth it wouldn't have landed him where he is now and I feel pity for him tho and plead with the British prime minister to temper justice with Mercy.i know the bodyguard had intentions of why he needed to bet on that day as he feels it'll be more favourable to him.

But he never knew it would amount to this, I know alot of person's that are victims of such circumstances.and again some countries kick against gambling,I'm not sure about the British but if paradventure they frown at it,then it's a more reason why he's arrested for such Acts and with his position as the bodyguard it's enough evidence that he'll face the penalty of his actions.

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But he never knew it would amount to this, I know alot of person's that are victims of such circumstances.and again some countries kick against gambling,I'm not sure about the British but if paradventure they frown at it,then it's a more reason why he's arrested for such Acts and with his position as the bodyguard it's enough evidence that he'll face the penalty of his actions.

Even if the British are not against gambling what he did was not good - since he knew that the method he used to get the result was not good then he would have just kept quiet and never placed that bet.

It has been more than a month now and I just tried searching for this news to see what later happened to him but I didnt get anything from my search and even the article the Op linked to his post is no longer available - I do hope he doesn’t face time in jail and probably won’t be allowed to continue his job without ruining his reputation to make it impossible to see another decent job.

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I would have love to know the amount that he would have won if he wasn’t caught - because I don’t know how much he saw that made him take that kind of a risk. He knew that his bet would be consider a crime since he already have information about the result and yet he went ahead to make his bet putting his whole job career at stake and with his position I don’t think he would be able to get a better one. I just hope they are lenient with him.

Some risks are not worth taking,I tell if it worth it wouldn't have landed him where he is now and I feel pity for him tho and plead with the British prime minister to temper justice with Mercy.i know the bodyguard had intentions of why he needed to bet on that day as he feels it'll be more favourable to him.

But he never knew it would amount to this, I know alot of person's that are victims of such circumstances.and again some countries kick against gambling,I'm not sure about the British but if paradventure they frown at it,then it's a more reason why he's arrested for such Acts and with his position as the bodyguard it's enough evidence that he'll face the penalty of his actions.
Taking advantage of knowledge which is not available to everyone is often a crime, as this is a scenario that we often find in the stock market in which the CEO and other people at the top of a company, buy or sell the stock of their company ahead of a big revelation to the rest of investors.

So this is making use of insider knowledge for their advantage, something that is clearly a crime, so it does not surprise me the actions of this bodyguard are considered to be illegal too.
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Since the country allows betting of any kind of, why will they arrest him. They caused it like that because assuming there was no bet on when the election day will be, he might not tell anyone and keep it a secret. Since money is involved that was ahy he had to bet on the right date because he is an I spider and knows about the date. It is cheating and that is why he was arrested, he should have given someone else the date to bet for him.


I see no reason why the bodyguard should be arrested in this situation. If there is no any law that prohibits bodyguard from placing the bet, just like every other person he has the legal right to place bet on any events of his choice as the country permit. Despite being an insider, he is not a member of the election committee to know the exact date of the election. What I see here is the use of analysis based on the information he heard since he's always close to the prime minister and make use of the information to guess the correct date. Every gambler will do everything possible to win their bet.

As far as people who are very close to the sources that have access to such information are not banned from placing bet on such events, issues like this should be highly expected. Assuming an outsider make such bet and won, what would they have accused him for? Just curious to know  Grin

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