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August 28, 2024, 01:14:47 PM
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China brazil russia India or even usa canada .... don't want to buy UK and EU bonds.
Why they need buyers? They need to print money.
What the UK and EU do it now they issue bonds to retail buyers so average person buying it and they advertise this.
But even the average person getting more smarter and not buying so the goverments will need to use in UK and EU more means like forced Investments of retirement fonds.
What next ?
Well next problem is simple we see UK and EU falling down and GBP EUR parity because non of the currencies better of each other both falling there is no BOND buyers.

now the UK and EU can escape from collapse only If they get BOND buyers this is serious now more serious than anyone understood
If there is no BOND buyers soon the war will be triggered EU AND UK got nothing to lose anymore because If nobody don't buy their bonds they fall at least in war and Crisis Europe can issue together with UK loans to another part of the Europe.
So this is the golden plan let one half of EU in deep Crisis and give Loan from another half of Europe.
Im not sure wich half will be but in order to save some they have to sacrafice some.

And finally we get to the point of life If i want to live then you can't live you ONLY LIVE If you are part of my team otherwise you are my enemy and i have to make sure i take from you.
Life is all about teams If your team winning you win if not you either change your team or fight hard together with your team.

But the joking is over for UK and EU they need to give loans get higher their bank balance sheets or or choose wich countries of them will be in Crisis so those Crisis countries Will be forced to buy bonds or take loans the big loans not small loans.

If the eu could ask help from Putin to help them out to bring Crisis in EU.it Sounds funny but world we live in its ugly and things works the way you have to sacrafice in order to get something and often untfortunately your own team member are best sacrafice
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September 15, 2024, 11:44:55 AM
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China brazil russia India or even usa canada .... don't want to buy UK and EU bonds.
Why they need buyers? They need to print money.
What the UK and EU do it now they issue bonds to retail buyers so average person buying it and they advertise this.
But even the average person getting more smarter and not buying so the goverments will need to use in UK and EU more means like forced Investments of retirement fonds.
What next ?
Well next problem is simple we see UK and EU falling down and GBP EUR parity because non of the currencies better of each other both falling there is no BOND buyers.

now the UK and EU can escape from collapse only If they get BOND buyers this is serious now more serious than anyone understood
If there is no BOND buyers soon the war will be triggered EU AND UK got nothing to lose anymore because If nobody don't buy their bonds they fall at least in war and Crisis Europe can issue together with UK loans to another part of the Europe.
So this is the golden plan let one half of EU in deep Crisis and give Loan from another half of Europe.
Im not sure wich half will be but in order to save some they have to sacrafice some.

And finally we get to the point of life If i want to live then you can't live you ONLY LIVE If you are part of my team otherwise you are my enemy and i have to make sure i take from you.
Life is all about teams If your team winning you win if not you either change your team or fight hard together with your team.

But the joking is over for UK and EU they need to give loans get higher their bank balance sheets or or choose wich countries of them will be in Crisis so those Crisis countries Will be forced to buy bonds or take loans the big loans not small loans.

If the eu could ask help from Putin to help them out to bring Crisis in EU.it Sounds funny but world we live in its ugly and things works the way you have to sacrafice in order to get something and often untfortunately your own team member are best sacrafice


Comments about the issues of UK and EU in their bond markets- really insightful. That large economies like China, Brazil, Russia, and India just wouldn't purchase UK and EU bonds. State some important trends So, when governments lose their 'traditional' customer benefits, as you know, they have to go shopping to fill in the gaps, but consumers can be pretty fussy as well. Which makes the problem more acute.

The possibility of forcing compulsory investment from retirement funds and other mechanisms. Supports selling of bonds: It stands for the increasing pessimism about how fiscal stress will be managed. When bond buyers remain in deficit, this could impact lower currency values like the case with the parity between GBP and EUR, and increase economic instability.

For me the idea of sacrificing part of the EU to stabilize others or even a crisis to force it buy bonds is astounding. It, however, highlights the pressures governments can face at various times. An idea of cashing in geopolitical conflict or crisis in terms of economic gain, though usually indicates a strong interest in managing a country's economic and fiscal policy.

In short, although the situation you have outlined is extremely grave. Yet it also clearly raises real issues concerning economic stability and the tenuous balance between fiscal policy. international finance and geopolitics Policymakers must accordingly deal sensitively with all such matters. This is to avoid possible economic collapse and restore stability.

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September 15, 2024, 11:54:28 AM
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China brazil russia India or even usa canada .... don't want to buy UK and EU bonds.
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If the eu could ask help from Putin to help them out to bring Crisis in EU.it Sounds funny but world we live in its ugly and things works the way you have to sacrafice in order to get something and often untfortunately your own team member are best sacrafice


Why would Russia even wanna buy these bonds? To get ripped off? Don't you know the latest situation between Russia and EU? Ask Putin for help? What the hell are you smoking?

The same reason applies to the other BRICS countries as well. Since they formed a new economical alliance, they can buy each others government bonds and support each other financially.

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September 17, 2024, 07:08:19 AM
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Well, it's correct that the demand for UK and EU bonds has dropped recently, but it's not as critical as OP's described. And yes, there are crises attached to the governments in both regions due to high interest rates and economic uncertainty, which makes bonds less attractive-especially to big players like China, India, or Brazil. However, that even though foreign buyers are definitely pulling back, bond auctions continue to take place, and even retail investors in some areas are participating.

Perhaps an exaggeration is the thought that the UK and EU would totally collapse if the buyers of bonds did not return. The bond markets go through their ebbs and flows, and when both are poised for potential rate cuts in 2024, this may make the bonds attractive once more on better yields. The respective governments are also applying new methods, such as "amend and extend", for tackling debt, with all not being utterly lost.

Plus, this is not all about bonds. Both the UK and EU are also using other tools, such as budget adjustments and changes in policy, to keep fiscal deficits at manageable levels. So, while there are challenges, it's far from a complete meltdown situation.


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September 17, 2024, 05:44:42 PM
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I agree that it is not going to be a complete meltdown type of situation and that is why I think we shouldn't really be considering this as a big deal. Sure there are some issues but I think 2008 was worse than this honestly, I lived through both as working person and I was working then too and for a short period of time in 2008 I didn't had any money to live off, literally couldn't buy bread type of poverty, everyone was laid off and every company went either bankrupt or just fired people, so it was a terrible period until it got better.

Of course at the end of the day that recovered and this will recover too, this time it is not getting any worse such as getting laid off, we are just not making enough compared to high inflation and that's bad too of course but not bad enough to be something huge, we are dealing with better results right now. This of course is not that bad of a deal and we can do this properly without much issues, as long as we keep holding it.

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September 17, 2024, 06:41:35 PM
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China brazil russia India or even usa canada .... don't want to buy UK and EU bonds.
Why they need buyers? They need to print money.
What the UK and EU do it now they issue bonds to retail buyers so average person buying it and they advertise this.
But even the average person getting more smarter and not buying so the goverments will need to use in UK and EU more means like forced Investments of retirement fonds.
What next ?
Well next problem is simple we see UK and EU falling down and GBP EUR parity because non of the currencies better of each other both falling there is no BOND buyers.

now the UK and EU can escape from collapse only If they get BOND buyers this is serious now more serious than anyone understood
If there is no BOND buyers soon the war will be triggered EU AND UK got nothing to lose anymore because If nobody don't buy their bonds they fall at least in war and Crisis Europe can issue together with UK loans to another part of the Europe.
So this is the golden plan let one half of EU in deep Crisis and give Loan from another half of Europe.
Im not sure wich half will be but in order to save some they have to sacrafice some.

And finally we get to the point of life If i want to live then you can't live you ONLY LIVE If you are part of my team otherwise you are my enemy and i have to make sure i take from you.
Life is all about teams If your team winning you win if not you either change your team or fight hard together with your team.

But the joking is over for UK and EU they need to give loans get higher their bank balance sheets or or choose wich countries of them will be in Crisis so those Crisis countries Will be forced to buy bonds or take loans the big loans not small loans.

If the eu could ask help from Putin to help them out to bring Crisis in EU.it Sounds funny but world we live in its ugly and things works the way you have to sacrafice in order to get something and often untfortunately your own team member are best sacrafice


It's a good job you're not in charge of anything as your opinions are consistently poor, but the reality is that these countries are much more trusted than places like China or Russia. They have been paying their debts for decades, centuries even, and in a world of unpredictability, that stability is favored by investors. Frankly, nobody with a brain is interested in buying rubles or yuan denominated debt because the governments there are so untrustworthy. The fact that you group these countries together shows you are foolish in another way. All of the nations you mention make opportunistic alliances, that they will happily drop whenever they can make more money elsewhere. There is no love or trust between them, in fact they are rivals too, and just looking to make the safest money possible.


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September 17, 2024, 07:49:01 PM
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Yes, this era is the era of alliances. There is the Western alliance led by the United States and most European countries, and other alliances such as the BRICS alliance led by Russia, China, and some countries that have recently joined.

The policy of exporting crises abroad has been known for a long time, where countries suffering from debts and economic problems try to solve their problems not only by printing more useless paper money, but also by creating wars and crises in other countries so that they can sell them military equipment and old weapons that have been in their warehouses for a long time and give them large loans that they are unable to repay. Then they begin to impose their conditions.

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