Stop confusing casino games with sports betting!

[stompix]

Odds for matches that are not very balanced are also not too big for a bet because the bookmakers will also assume that this will be an easy match which can be deceiving.

Well, isn't that normal?
What are the risks in a game where the leader of the league plays against a team that hasn't won a single match in the last 20 and is on the last place?
It's just with dice, who would give double the money when betting ona 99% chance?

We take the example of Manchester City and Manchester United this season. I'm pretty sure there will be a lot of bettors who lose their money in betting when they have Manchester United or Manchester City as their bets even though they are big clubs and even most of the matches they run they are always favorites to win.

This is simply not true, Manchester United has been sent as a favorite only once in the last five games:

[libert19]

Even experienced users often say something like “There are no smart strategies in gambling, it’s all about chance. Play only for fun, not to win.” These posts look like they were written by artificial intelligence. First, let’s distinguish between casino games, which are entirely based on luck, and sports betting (and betting on non-sports events, such as elections).

I have always said that casino games are completely luck based and there is no strategy possible, I facepalm every single time when someone talks about strategies in casino games.

Smart strategies are entirely possible in sports betting; it’s wrong to say that there are no smart strategies in gambling if by gambling we mean sports betting (betting in general). One example of a smart strategy in sports betting is the “value” strategy. It’s based on the “edge of the bookmaker’s line.” Simply put, you analyze the bookmaker’s bets, look for inaccuracies in the odds, and try to play on them. In the long run, this can bring you profit.

I don't know "value" strategy but in sports betting, if you have merely have knowledge of sports you are betting on, you have better chance to make money here than from casino games.

In fact, there can be no smart strategies in casino games that are completely based on luck. However, even there, strategies are possible. For example, the Martingale strategy. In general, this strategy is unprofitable, since you are playing a game with a negative mathematical expectation, if we are talking about games like roulette or dice, but sometimes luck can be on your side.

I have tried martingale, I don't like it, you are bound to face losing streak sooner or later that wipes away your entire bankroll. So, is it a strategy?

[Ryu_Ar1]

I think the statistics and conditions of the fighter or club that we will bet on must also be seen because there are not a few unbalanced matches where the big club is the favorite but the results are disappointing just because the club is in trouble.

I'm not very experienced with sports betting — I've only done it a couple of times just to get familiar with the methodology. From what I've observed, bets on the possible loser often seem much more appealing than bets on the favorites. I know those bets rarely pay off, but sometimes surprises do happen. For example, in the Manchester City vs. Feyenoord match, Manchester City, the reigning champion, was seen as the clear favorite. But the game ended in a draw, which was unexpected for many bettors. I imagine those who took the risk and bet on that outcome had quite a celebration!

Indeed, it will happen and will be considered normal but in the end it comes back to luck and struggle on the field of course because it does not mean that every favorite club will win easily even though when they win it will always be said to be an easy bet but the fact is not that simple.

If I am not mistaken in the last 2022 world cup even Japan had odds of more than 40 after they fell behind Germany and Saudi Arabia even had odds of almost 100 when they fell behind Argentina but in the end there was an amazing comeback that showed that in the end even if the odds are high or low because of the favorite to win sometimes this may not have a smooth impact because everything can happen on the field.

We take the example of Manchester City and Manchester United this season. I'm pretty sure there will be a lot of bettors who lose their money in betting when they have Manchester United or Manchester City as their bets even though they are big clubs and even most of the matches they run they are always favorites to win.

This is simply not true, Manchester United has been sent as a favorite only once in the last five games:

My mistake. I'll correct what I said about always being favored.
But that doesn't rule out the fact that in the end what happens now is different from the start of the season and mid-season. We can look at the early stats for their odds (I don't know where to look) but almost every week since the start of the season I've been betting and seeing and feeling that on average they are bigger favorites especially for Manchester City which you didn't notice even though I mentioned 2 clubs there

It's a fact that in the end the big club will be the favorite but in the end the final result is obviously difficult to predict especially since we also have to look at other things in betting before giving a place to our bets, namely statistics in each of their previous matches as a comparison.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

I think the statistics and conditions of the fighter or club that we will bet on must also be seen because there are not a few unbalanced matches where the big club is the favorite but the results are disappointing just because the club is in trouble.

I'm not very experienced with sports betting — I've only done it a couple of times just to get familiar with the methodology. From what I've observed, bets on the possible loser often seem much more appealing than bets on the favorites. I know those bets rarely pay off, but sometimes surprises do happen. For example, in the Manchester City vs. Feyenoord match, Manchester City, the reigning champion, was seen as the clear favorite. But the game ended in a draw, which was unexpected for many bettors. I imagine those who took the risk and bet on that outcome had quite a celebration!

You are right, odds are always higher for the club that is likely to lose a match or those who many believe will lose the match, while the favorite of the game enjoy little with many gamblers or bettors pouring money on them..

But then, like we all already know, the majority are not always right all the time, there are several times the majority opinion or decision/choice has turned out to be the wrong opinion or decision/choice, and for those who took the risk of not following the majority, they will smile or the bag whenever such match ended up playing in their favor.
And you should also know that in sports betting, the higher the risk you are taking, the higher the potential payout if you win, but the lower the risk you are taking, the lower also the potential payout when and if your win.

[SUPERSAIAN]

Betting on sports games is completely different. A lot of analysis can be done, making the right shot is still possible, although there are many luck factors, it is possible. Casino games are a complete unknown. You have nothing but hope for random number generation to come to you. This is definitely not for every casino game. Poker is still a game of skill, it should be noted that strategies can be made in other casino games or in some card games.

[stompix]

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This is simply not true, Manchester United has been sent as a favorite only once in the last five games:

My mistake. I'll correct what I said about always being favored.
But that doesn't rule out the fact that in the end what happens now is different from the start of the season and mid-season. We can look at the early stats for their odds (I don't know where to look) but almost every week since the start of the season I've been betting and seeing and feeling that on average they are bigger favorites especially for Manchester City which you didn't notice even though I mentioned 2 clubs there

It's a fact that in the end the big club will be the favorite but in the end the final result is obviously difficult to predict especially since we also have to look at other things in betting before giving a place to our bets, namely statistics in each of their previous matches as a comparison.

Again, easy to check
City was sent favorite 5 time in the first 5 games and won 4 , drawing only with Arsenal






So, what are trying to say cause whatever you're saying about the odds and the favorite doens't match what actually happend.
You can check the full history of odds here:
https://www.oddsportal.com/football/england/premier-league/results/

[LUCKMCFLY]

I'm not very experienced with sports betting — I've only done it a couple of times just to get familiar with the methodology. From what I've observed, bets on the possible loser often seem much more appealing than bets on the favorites. I know those bets rarely pay off, but sometimes surprises do happen. For example, in the Manchester City vs. Feyenoord match, Manchester City, the reigning champion, was seen as the clear favorite. But the game ended in a draw, which was unexpected for many bettors. I imagine those who took the risk and bet on that outcome had quite a celebration!

Don't doubt that, I personally think that if you don't feel like betting and Follow your instincts sometimes it can help a lot, if you find a way to have tricks or something that helps you Win it's welcome , although I will always start from the Knowledge you have when betting on what you know , it's the safest for me because knowing well what we are doing is how you win money , there are other Factors such as luck that also Influence but to a lesser degree.

[Fredomago]

I'm not very experienced with sports betting — I've only done it a couple of times just to get familiar with the methodology. From what I've observed, bets on the possible loser often seem much more appealing than bets on the favorites. I know those bets rarely pay off, but sometimes surprises do happen. For example, in the Manchester City vs. Feyenoord match, Manchester City, the reigning champion, was seen as the clear favorite. But the game ended in a draw, which was unexpected for many bettors. I imagine those who took the risk and bet on that outcome had quite a celebration!

Don't doubt that, I personally think that if you don't feel like betting and Follow your instincts sometimes it can help a lot, if you find a way to have tricks or something that helps you Win it's welcome , although I will always start from the Knowledge you have when betting on what you know , it's the safest for me because knowing well what we are doing is how you win money , there are other Factors such as luck that also Influence but to a lesser degree.

 Yes indeed, it's safe to say that if you understand the mechanics and you know the team or the player you'll going to bet with its an edge to you though not a guarantee as you are still in gambling and there's no such words as safe and sure betting, there's always a chance that you'll going to lose even how good your knowledge and how deep your a analysis.

There's always a factor that will affects the outcome and you need to let go and move forward if happened that your pick didn't turn to your favor.

[Hispo]

This is definitely not for every casino game. Poker is still a game of skill, it should be noted that strategies can be made in other casino games or in some card games.

If you are talking about online poker, then I would say one would be still at the mercy of the random number generator and there is not much one can do to counter it.
On the other hand, when comes to poker tournaments in the real life in which you can use some strategies to deceive your foes on the table and take advantage of it, then there there is definitely some skill on it.
The rest of casino games, specially slots are just matter of pressing a button and hoping for the best to come, that is all.

That is what I have a personal appreciation for poker against other people whom you can see in front of you, it is not only gambling and thrill of it, there is also an important social factor in place.
Not even mention that in real life you won encounter bots pretending to be human players for the sake of taking advantage of you, which is common in many poker sites nowadays, as I am told.

[Lannakosa]

 Yes indeed, it's safe to say that if you understand the mechanics and you know the team or the player you'll going to bet with its an edge to you though not a guarantee as you are still in gambling and there's no such words as safe and sure betting, there's always a chance that you'll going to lose even how good your knowledge and how deep your a analysis.

There's always a factor that will affects the outcome and you need to let go and move forward if happened that your pick didn't turn to your favor.

Yes, it doesn’t guarantee anything, but at least in betting you can rely on your knowledge, and that still increases your chances of winning. In other casino games, where your knowledge about a team or a player doesn’t matter at all, you have no influence as a player placing a bet. You can only hope that you’ll be lucky with the machine or the game you choose. That's why I like betting more, there I can bet on a team that I expect to win, I won't have that choice on slots.

[LUCKMCFLY]

 Yes indeed, it's safe to say that if you understand the mechanics and you know the team or the player you'll going to bet with its an edge to you though not a guarantee as you are still in gambling and there's no such words as safe and sure betting, there's always a chance that you'll going to lose even how good your knowledge and how deep your a analysis.

There's always a factor that will affects the outcome and you need to let go and move forward if happened that your pick didn't turn to your favor.

Yes, and that's the point, in sports betting there is a greater probability of winning Because there is a prior analysis that can be fulfilled, but in internal casino games even if you have a good analysis with advanced mathematics you can still lose like that without further ado and without any Explanation , it is the system of randomness and that same one indicates to us that in that type of games we will Always depend on luck, even so the Strategies and tricks can Help us.

[STT]

Sports betting has a better chance also because its more against the people themselves, otherwise you are often betting against yourself almost or the house which has its bias for profits sake.
  Bet sports and if you can do so without bias towards a favorite team and you should do better then many will just going with the team they always expect to win.

[Etranger]

There's always a factor that will affects the outcome and you need to let go and move forward if happened that your pick didn't turn to your favor.

Of course, otherwise even the players themselves would know the outcome of the matches they’re participating in ahead of time and wouldn’t need to worry before the game. But all of this is unpredictable.

Understanding the mechanics and basics of the game, observing the team and individual players — all of that increases your chances of making the right choice. But in my opinion, this mostly applies to the overall result of the match, like betting on the winner.

More specific bets, like the number of yellow cards or the minute of the first goal — that’s pure luck, and predicting that is nearly impossible. Sometimes you might get it right, but the odds are extremely low.

[Fredomago]

 Yes indeed, it's safe to say that if you understand the mechanics and you know the team or the player you'll going to bet with its an edge to you though not a guarantee as you are still in gambling and there's no such words as safe and sure betting, there's always a chance that you'll going to lose even how good your knowledge and how deep your a analysis.

There's always a factor that will affects the outcome and you need to let go and move forward if happened that your pick didn't turn to your favor.

Yes, it doesn’t guarantee anything, but at least in betting you can rely on your knowledge, and that still increases your chances of winning. In other casino games, where your knowledge about a team or a player doesn’t matter at all, you have no influence as a player placing a bet. You can only hope that you’ll be lucky with the machine or the game you choose. That's why I like betting more, there I can bet on a team that I expect to win, I won't have that choice on slots.

Yeah, if you take it seriously then there's a chance that you may anticipate the possible outcome of the game or the perfomances of the players that you'll be betting with, and same with what you said, with casino gambling most of it relies with luck and if you are good and wise using it you'll be able to be compensated.

 Yes indeed, it's safe to say that if you understand the mechanics and you know the team or the player you'll going to bet with its an edge to you though not a guarantee as you are still in gambling and there's no such words as safe and sure betting, there's always a chance that you'll going to lose even how good your knowledge and how deep your a analysis.

There's always a factor that will affects the outcome and you need to let go and move forward if happened that your pick didn't turn to your favor.

Yes, and that's the point, in sports betting there is a greater probability of winning Because there is a prior analysis that can be fulfilled, but in internal casino games even if you have a good analysis with advanced mathematics you can still lose like that without further ado and without any Explanation , it is the system of randomness and that same one indicates to us that in that type of games we will Always depend on luck, even so the Strategies and tricks can Help us.

If you know the game that well and you know the players or the teams and how their performance, you'll have a better chance anticipating the outcome and might be possible to place your bet in the right timing, though no guarantee but better than relying alone with your luck if you are playing luck base casino games.

[Wakate]

Sports betting has a better chance also because its more against the people themselves, otherwise you are often betting against yourself almost or the house which has its bias for profits sake.
  Bet sports and if you can do so without bias towards a favorite team and you should do better then many will just going with the team they always expect to win.

Sport bets can be profitable if you can make a good prediction that will earn you quick result which is one of the reasons why we have sport gamblers compared to casino gamblers. In sport bet, you can easily take other people's predictions and edit it to suit your interest but this might not be possible with casino games which are more difficult to make money because the house has more advantage to us that are gambling on these games always.
I know people that have made a fortune from sport bets compared to gamblers that are always betting on casino games which is based on luck and is more difficult to win.

[masulum]

Sport bets can be profitable if you can make a good prediction that will earn you quick result which is one of the reasons why we have sport gamblers compared to casino gamblers. In sport bet, you can easily take other people's predictions and edit it to suit your interest but this might not be possible with casino games which are more difficult to make money because the house has more advantage to us that are gambling on these games always.
I know people that have made a fortune from sport bets compared to gamblers that are always betting on casino games which is based on luck and is more difficult to win.

Yup, the main difference between sports betting and casino games is control and transparency. In sports betting, the outcome of the match is out of the betting house's control, they are just the middleman, whereas the outcome is determined by the actual match which can be seen and judged by the public. This gives bettors the opportunity to do research, follow statistics, even utilize predictions from experts. Although we know there is the potential for cheating as well, but at least the chances of winning are better because of the analysis. If casino games, whether cards offline, or online, slots and so on in the casino, can be designed in a way to benefit the bookie.

[Etranger]

Sport bets can be profitable if you can make a good prediction that will earn you quick result which is one of the reasons why we have sport gamblers compared to casino gamblers. In sport bet, you can easily take other people's predictions and edit it to suit your interest but this might not be possible with casino games which are more difficult to make money because the house has more advantage to us that are gambling on these games always.
I know people that have made a fortune from sport bets compared to gamblers that are always betting on casino games which is based on luck and is more difficult to win.

That's an interesting point you made about how it's relatively easy in sports betting to copy someone else's bet and adjust it to fit your own parameters. Especially since even the bookmakers' predictions often hint at the likely winner — the odds speak for themselves. In casino games, there's nothing even close to that.
However, copying someone else's bets is no magic solution either. You never really know whether the person you're copying from actually knows what they're doing.

[TheUltraElite]

Betting on sports games is completely different. A lot of analysis can be done, making the right shot is still possible, although there are many luck factors, it is possible. Casino games are a complete unknown. You have nothing but hope for random number generation to come to you. This is definitely not for every casino game. Poker is still a game of skill, it should be noted that strategies can be made in other casino games or in some card games.

Both casino games and sports betting have a luck factor rolled in. You will get bad outcomes in any game out there, but that is the risk you take in gambling. It was never meant to be easy money.

Poker needs some skills but there is never a ruling out of the luck factor. Most people who are making money with advertising poker are also doing a side business selling courses and podcasts with affiliate marketing of products.

Some people see the risky outcomes of casino games to be rewarding so they go with that. Some see the EV+ games are less dependent on luck, but even then they are equally risky.

[Etranger]

Most people who are making money with advertising poker are also doing a side business selling courses and podcasts with affiliate marketing of products.

Yes, that’s exactly what many players fail to see — that the real money isn’t made from the game itself or even from sports betting, but from the entire industry built around gambling. It’s about advertising, merchandise, “analytics,” and the platforms that host these events. Unlike the players themselves, these people have something stable and predictable. They’re not relying purely on luck. They have working strategies — and that’s exactly why they’re the ones making serious money.