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October 28, 2024, 08:26:56 PM
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I noticed on the news that a man won a lottery and when he arrived to claim his prize, he was requested to state or provide information about where he purchased the lottery ticket

I'm just wondering how fustrating this could be to anyone involved, imagine after getting this wins and you can't remember the exact place the tickets was bought is that not  an unfruitful journey of no return, and I wonder how some persons think this days and go about personal things that really need much attention to. And I probably think from the look of things he's going to loose that money cause since he can't get a recall on where he bought it, then it'll definitely be a plus to the lottery place.

I'm  still surprised how he managed to forget where he obtained the lottery ticket, its a shock to me because  I remember  every location I've made my bet irrespective of the fact that I mostly gamble on my phone. Well its obvious that all bet are registered on the agent's id or yours depending on where you placed the bet and if he couldn't remember the agent who he gambled on his platform, then I guess he has lost his win. This is another reason to prove that, playing gamble on your device is better than attending any physical gambling center to play games that can also be played with your smart phone remotely. Physical casino or other gambling physical gambling services could even attract thieve to locating your resident.
most likely that guy often bought tickets and in different places because he forgot where exactly he bought it. I also remember where I bought all my last tickets in the store near my house if I am in the mood and have extra money. I also play the national lottery once a month but I do it on my phone because I can see all the previous draws and numbers there, it is much more convenient than going and checking the results. And despite the fact that now everything is on the Internet, there are those who go to buy tickets because it is more like a tradition.
On the technology that we do have today then it cant really be denied that making things go through online or having those transitions does really bring out that kind of convenience or comfort when buying up
tickets since you could really be able to check out the history as long you do have that account or phone besides you but same as you said that people will really be getting used to or much preferred on
going into those physical places because they do really want to feel the essence that traditional way on betting on lotteries on which they could get a hold of with physical ticket and kept in.
The issue on this one is that he had lost the ticket so its understandable that you cant be able to claim up the prize on which this is something which is really that understandable.

Rules are rules and there would really be no considerations when it comes into this aspect on where if you dont have the ticket then there's no prize for you. Just like on what everyone is saying on here
that this would really be giving out a regret that you wont really be able to forget for the rest of your life specially if the prize or money we are talking on here is a life changing one.
This is why its really that important that it should really be kept well and wont really be that making yourself that being careless with those things.
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October 28, 2024, 08:38:54 PM
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I noticed on the news that a man won a lottery and when he arrived to claim his prize, he was requested to state or provide information about where he purchased the lottery ticket, which he couldn't do because he didn't know where he obtained it. It drew my interest, and I wondered if forum users could still tell where they purchased all of their lottery tickets in the previous six months (For those who still engage if physical tickets).

It is rather unfortunate, but it's probably a last fail safe check for a lottery operator to determine if a ticket is genuine. You'd think there might be some kind of unique identifier on the ticket so it cannot be faked, which leaves the only reason for the question of - where did you buy this ticket, being that they want to prevent stolen tickets from being submitted by a wrongful claimant. Personally I don't buy many lottery tickets, but tend to know the geographic locations and could probably recall shops that I'd be around in the last 6 months which could be the location of the purchase. If he is able to give some specific shops that it might have been purchased from, then they should take that in good faith because it could be hard for a thief to identify accurately.

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October 28, 2024, 08:59:01 PM
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I noticed on the news that a man won a lottery and when he arrived to claim his prize, he was requested to state or provide information about where he purchased the lottery ticket

I'm just wondering how fustrating this could be to anyone involved, imagine after getting this wins and you can't remember the exact place the tickets was bought is that not  an unfruitful journey of no return, and I wonder how some persons think this days and go about personal things that really need much attention to. And I probably think from the look of things he's going to loose that money cause since he can't get a recall on where he bought it, then it'll definitely be a plus to the lottery place.

I'm  still surprised how he managed to forget where he obtained the lottery ticket, its a shock to me because  I remember  every location I've made my bet irrespective of the fact that I mostly gamble on my phone. Well its obvious that all bet are registered on the agent's id or yours depending on where you placed the bet and if he couldn't remember the agent who he gambled on his platform, then I guess he has lost his win. This is another reason to prove that, playing gamble on your device is better than attending any physical gambling center to play games that can also be played with your smart phone remotely. Physical casino or other gambling physical gambling services could even attract thieve to locating your resident.
most likely that guy often bought tickets and in different places because he forgot where exactly he bought it.
This kind of things happens nowadays but in different categories, someone might buy the same things from different stores and if one among the things he bought have problem and would want to return it (or would like to change them), he might find it difficult to recall the particular store he bought them because he didn't buy the things in the same store. However, since it is a lottery ticket, I would say that the dude is a chronic gambler that gambles in different places and forgot the particular place he bought the tickets because he's kind of addicted and not conscious of the kind of places he bought his tickets or how he plays he's bet.

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October 29, 2024, 09:29:04 AM
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In my opinion, this is a very bad trend. There is a basic rule in jurisprudence - the principle of presumption of innocence. This rule was borrowed from ancient Roman law. The principle of presumption of innocence means that any person is initially considered innocent.

The burden of proof of guilt lies not with the accused, but with the accuser. It is the accuser who must provide compelling evidence of the person's guilt.

Except that there is no talk about innocence here and the burden of proof lies with the claimant!
It's a known thing in the US and Canada, you need to know where you bought the ticket, everyone knows when they buy one, and everyone has seen cases of them getting stolen even by cashiers who were supposed to check if you won and so on!
Prof of burden is with you when you claim possession of something!

From my view of how lottery and physical gambling ticket works, each sold ticket are recorded with the agent which they bought the ticket from and claiming your reward would also come from that same agent. The reward is paid ro the agent and then the agent to you. That is why he was unable to access his won ticket at other agents. 

That's not how lotteries work here and it's definitely not the case, the reason is simple was explained in the article and in a ton of links following that post so I don't understand why people still do guess work on this!


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October 29, 2024, 10:12:59 AM
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It's a known thing in the US and Canada, you need to know where you bought the ticket, everyone knows when they buy one, and everyone has seen cases of them getting stolen even by cashiers who were supposed to check if you won and so on!

From my view of how lottery and physical gambling ticket works, each sold ticket are recorded with the agent which they bought the ticket from and claiming your reward would also come from that same agent. The reward is paid ro the agent and then the agent to you. That is why he was unable to access his won ticket at other agents. 

That's not how lotteries work here and it's definitely not the case, the reason is simple was explained in the article and in a ton of links following that post so I don't understand why people still do guess work on this!


What if someone has bought me a ticker or I have received it as a present? I dont know where it is from, nor the value of it, as people often remove price tags when they give presents Cheesy How things works in this case in your place? I am used to "providing paycheck is a proof that item isnt stolen" kind of situations. Providing info where ticket was bought - is it enough to say "gas station by <that> address" ? They will check if lottery machine issues that ticket there, and that is it?

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October 29, 2024, 10:54:53 AM
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I had to buy physical tickets to play the lottery for a long time, even though I didn't win big prizes there. So I want to say that if I bought these lottery tickets every week in different places, then of course I wouldn't remember where I bought them over the last six months.

But there are 2 options in which I would remember this:

1) This is if I bought in the same place throughout the entire period of the game. For example, a store near where I live.

2) This is if I very rarely bought tickets in different places, then I would most likely remember these places, even for several months for sure.

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October 29, 2024, 11:50:09 AM
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From my view of how lottery and physical gambling ticket works, each sold ticket are recorded with the agent which they bought the ticket from and claiming your reward would also come from that same agent. The reward is paid ro the agent and then the agent to you. That is why he was unable to access his won ticket at other agents.  Well the only solution to this, is if he manages to get to their head office to make complaint that he forgot the location were he bought the ticket, then they might improvise by debating the agents account and give him his reward or even give him the agent's location if possible.

The article says the lottery company actually has records, so that's not the issue here.
The lottery company only wants to ensure that they are paying the winning ticket to the rightful owner, so they need to asks series of questions, if one answer do not match their information, the process would take longer than usual as they need to review further information about how the claimant obtained the ticket.
It was also stated in the article that a good habit when purchasing a lottery ticket is to keep the receipt as it shows the time, date, and place of the purchase.
Therefore, the claimant are most likely lost the receipt.

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]Right, frustrating indeed. I think that’s the consequence if you buy your tickets anywhere, and there’s actually high tendency that you will forget the whereabouts most especially if you drink before you bet. But for some responsible bettors, the fact that you keep your ticket well then you should know also where you have gained that ticket. Those are actually basic information, and yet some have totally forgotten it.
It seems to me that they shouldn't put so many restrictions on that. If he won, he proved that he was lucky, he won. Telling him that he doesn't remember where he got it from doesn't mean anything. He could have been drunk and forgot. Sometimes drunks have unique luck, they have road accidents and don't even kill themselves, So why not win the lottery? It seems to me that it's a very bad excuse not to want to pay. And if the person suffers from Alzheimer's, what would they do there? The lottery would look bad.

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October 31, 2024, 10:17:04 PM
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Right, frustrating indeed. I think that’s the consequence if you buy your tickets anywhere, and there’s actually high tendency that you will forget the whereabouts most especially if you drink before you bet. But for some responsible bettors, the fact that you keep your ticket well then you should know also where you have gained that ticket. Those are actually basic information, and yet some have totally forgotten it.
Some gamblers are just like smokers; they can buy cigarettes from as many shops as they can as long as they offer what they want. All that matters is that they can remember that they have some left-over park they can make use of when ever necessary and not to remember each store they enter to buy it.
 
I believe such can also be the case here, as the lucky dude can't remember the exact place he bought the ticket because it's not just one place that he buys from; they should just get over it as long as there is no report for stolen tickets or such, and his reward should be handed over to him.

 
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I noticed on the news that a man won a lottery and when he arrived to claim his prize, he was requested to state or provide information about where he purchased the lottery ticket

I'm just wondering how fustrating this could be to anyone involved, imagine after getting this wins and you can't remember the exact place the tickets was bought is that not  an unfruitful journey of no return, and I wonder how some persons think this days and go about personal things that really need much attention to. And I probably think from the look of things he's going to loose that money cause since he can't get a recall on where he bought it, then it'll definitely be a plus to the lottery place.
The Man is in a mess, because if Care is not taken, he may end up not getting his prize since the casino have already made their intentions and decision known to him that he have to forfeit his winning if he can't remember where he made the bet from, because in this regard the casino is right in a way, most especially when he have staked the bet through a betting agents, because there is how the agents betting work's and how they pay out winnings to winners.


So the man is frustrated by now, and he should be considering to move one in this situation by now because he has lost that winning eventually unless he is able to prove the casino wrong after all this crisis.

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October 31, 2024, 10:57:38 PM
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The Man is in a mess, because if Care is not taken, he may end up not getting his prize since the casino have already made their intentions and decision known to him that he have to forfeit his winning if he can't remember where he made the bet from, because in this regard the casino is right in a way, most especially when he have staked the bet through a betting agents, because there is how the agents betting work's and how they pay out winnings to winners.


So the man is frustrated by now, and he should be considering to move one in this situation by now because he has lost that winning eventually unless he is able to prove the casino wrong after all this crisis.

I don’t think he’ll be frustrated - if you take a look at the last few replies i made on this thread you should be able to see where I mentioned that he was able to get the money back. Remember that we’re dealing with a lottery company here and since the media was already involved in the case they wouldn’t want to risk ruining their reputation for a few thousands of dollars so they had to revisit his case and gave him his reward ( the article also mentioned it at the bottom).

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The Man is in a mess, because if Care is not taken, he may end up not getting his prize since the casino have already made their intentions and decision known to him that he have to forfeit his winning if he can't remember where he made the bet from, because in this regard the casino is right in a way, most especially when he have staked the bet through a betting agents, because there is how the agents betting work's and how they pay out winnings to winners.


So the man is frustrated by now, and he should be considering to move one in this situation by now because he has lost that winning eventually unless he is able to prove the casino wrong after all this crisis.

I don’t think he’ll be frustrated - if you take a look at the last few replies i made on this thread you should be able to see where I mentioned that he was able to get the money back. Remember that we’re dealing with a lottery company here and since the media was already involved in the case they wouldn’t want to risk ruining their reputation for a few thousands of dollars so they had to revisit his case and gave him his reward ( the article also mentioned it at the bottom).
It's very funny to see that someone win lottery or something else and forgot were he bought the tickets, it's still not clear to me because it shows how careless the said user could be. Note, my reply was based on the tile of your post.
When buying lottery ticket is there no indication or a kind of names that corelate with the company's name if I may ask?

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