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January 11, 2025, 10:44:00 PM
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This is ridiculous. How can you Mr Jollygood just make up such a wit from nowhere and accuse a person of what is not. How is it now a crime to have my posts submitted on a thread where every other member is doing same? Or Is it just something about you to go about tagging new members blending to be a part and parcel of this community struggling to make out time out of their busy engagements.

I didn't know it was a huge crime in this community for a member to express their thoughts making a speculation about bitcoin price and which has to be determined by Mr jollygood as arbiter if the speculation serves a purpose or not. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5521247.msg64884125#msg64884125

I am aware am just growing in the forum and may have some lapses  to learn from but in this matter I do take it as a witch-hunt from Mr jollygood. There's no good justification to the tag am seeing on my profile.
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January 11, 2025, 11:14:55 PM
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Not sure what youre complaining about exactly. Are you upset because someone expressed their opinion in one of your threads? Or are you upset because of the neutral feedback on your user profile?  The facts are that he is not wrong. (Without going into your motives now.) But its still just a neutral feedback.

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January 12, 2025, 02:39:32 AM
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Not sure what youre complaining about exactly. Are you upset because someone expressed their opinion in one of your threads? Or are you upset because of the neutral feedback on your user profile?  The facts are that he is not wrong. (Without going into your motives now.) But its still just a neutral feedback.
I am glad you call it an opinion because that's exactly what it is. And as opinion it shouldn't come with a verdict not even a neutral feedback if that's what it's called. I am not upset to have anybody express their opinion in my thread because it a positive or negative opinion but leaving a neutral feedback on my profile is extreme.

If my submitting my posts to fillipone thread makes me a merit seeker as Mr jollygood suggest what then does it makes of all those other users in that thread?  How does his reason for the neutral makes sense  except that he feels he could give out as he wish and nothing will happen.
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January 12, 2025, 05:15:07 AM
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Not sure what youre complaining about exactly. Are you upset because someone expressed their opinion in one of your threads? Or are you upset because of the neutral feedback on your user profile?  

It is precisely nowadays that people take neutral feedback seriously. As I have already mentioned I have been PMd several times to delete the neutral feedback I left, which in some cases I did and in others I did not, after weighing up the situation.

The facts are that he is not wrong. (Without going into your motives now.) But its still just a neutral feedback.

He is not wrong but Familian has created 7 threads since November 29, 2023 (not counting this one). He does not seem to be in a hurry to earn merit. As you can see from his post history he is a person who comes to the forum, writes a few posts and then goes a while without writing. There are a couple of such cases also in my local section.

If my submitting my posts to fillipone thread makes me a merit seeker as Mr jollygood suggest <...>

He hasn't talked about that thread.

I see his feedback as unnecessary, just as I see no need to get angry about it.

Btw, I've just seen that JollyGood has 2970 people on his distrust list, lol.


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January 12, 2025, 07:51:22 PM
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Not sure what youre complaining about exactly. Are you upset because someone expressed their opinion in one of your threads? Or are you upset because of the neutral feedback on your user profile?  The facts are that he is not wrong. (Without going into your motives now.) But its still just a neutral feedback.
I am glad you call it an opinion because that's exactly what it is. And as opinion it shouldn't come with a verdict not even a neutral feedback if that's what it's called. I am not upset to have anybody express their opinion in my thread because it a positive or negative opinion but leaving a neutral feedback on my profile is extreme.

I dont think you can call it extreme. Maybe feedback is unnecessary, but it is his right. It would be bad if he left you a negative rating, and that would be unfair and extreme. Like I said, its just neutral feedback based on his view, but it shouldnt affect your participation in the forum.

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If my submitting my posts to fillipone thread makes me a merit seeker as Mr jollygood suggest what then does it makes of all those other users in that thread?  How does his reason for the neutral makes sense  except that he feels he could give out as he wish and nothing will happen.

I agree that everyone who posted their posts in that thread is looking for recognition and possibly merits, but I dont think thats the point here. The main point in his feedback, as far as I can see, is that you dont actively participate in the threads you start.  You are just posting and then leaving. You are not engaging with the community.

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Perhaps you should take the neutral feedback positively and try to improve yourself much better in the forum. After then, you can ask him to review the post history and have the feedback removed. What I can tell you is different DT members leave feedback based on what they have observed and removal of that feedback is also on personal basis, unless if the DT member has gone extreme and needs to be booted out of DT membership which is a rare thing.

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January 12, 2025, 09:23:01 PM
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Not sure what youre complaining about exactly. Are you upset because someone expressed their opinion in one of your threads? Or are you upset because of the neutral feedback on your user profile?  The facts are that he is not wrong. (Without going into your motives now.) But its still just a neutral feedback.
I am glad you call it an opinion because that's exactly what it is. And as opinion it shouldn't come with a verdict not even a neutral feedback if that's what it's called. I am not upset to have anybody express their opinion in my thread because it a positive or negative opinion but leaving a neutral feedback on my profile is extreme.

I dont think you can call it extreme. Maybe feedback is unnecessary, but it is his right. It would be bad if he left you a negative rating, and that would be unfair and extreme. Like I said, its just neutral feedback based on his view, but it shouldnt affect your participation in the forum.

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If my submitting my posts to fillipone thread makes me a merit seeker as Mr jollygood suggest what then does it makes of all those other users in that thread?  How does his reason for the neutral makes sense  except that he feels he could give out as he wish and nothing will happen.

I agree that everyone who posted their posts in that thread is looking for recognition and possibly merits, but I dont think thats the point here. The main point in his feedback, as far as I can see, is that you dont actively participate in the threads you start.  You are just posting and then leaving. You are not engaging with the community.
oh really!!! You admit it's unnecessary yet you call it his right. So it's a right of old members of the forum to do anything they wish on newbie members account even when it's obviously unnecessary as you had admitted. This is bs.

Like what happened to send me a message privately informing me about what he has observed if his real intentions was to put me in order since he knows am just a newbie and may not be exempted from some newbie shortcomings. In that way it would have shown his true  thoughts is to really be in my best interest. But this neutral which you have clearly admitted it to be unnecessary is nothing in my best interest from him but just to serve some ego.

Like what's going on here.
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eally!!! You admit it's unnecessary yet you call it his right. So it's a right of old members of the forum to do anything they wish on newbie members account even when it's obviously unnecessary as you had admitted. This is bs.


You can go look at his sent feedback and check the members he is sending neutral trust to, they are not anywhere close to all newbies. You really shouldn't worry about neutral trust as in most cases it's not going to harm you. I wouldn't lose any sleep over it man.

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This is ridiculous.
I will gladly remove/revise this feedback if a situation for it occurs. Has it?

Btw, I've just seen that JollyGood has 2970 people on his distrust list, lol.
I think it was pointed out by another member that it was the forum record  Grin

If my submitting my posts to fillipone thread makes me a merit seeker as Mr jollygood suggest what then does it makes of all those other users in that thread?  How does his reason for the neutral makes sense  except that he feels he could give out as he wish and nothing will happen.
I agree that everyone who posted their posts in that thread is looking for recognition and possibly merits, but I dont think thats the point here. The main point in his feedback, as far as I can see, is that you dont actively participate in the threads you start.  You are just posting and then leaving. You are not engaging with the community.
Unless I am mistaken, it is universally accepted all members posting in threads where they list their own posts/threads in order to be assessed for merits are effectively seeking merits otherwise they are defeating the object of their intention. Having said that you are absolutely right, the OP does not engage in threads that he creates he simply moves on to create more threads (or he posts elsewhere) and I captured it within my feedback. I also stated it would be revised if it was warranted.

You can go look at his sent feedback and check the members he is sending neutral trust to, they are not anywhere close to all newbies. You really shouldn't worry about neutral trust as in most cases it's not going to harm you. I wouldn't lose any sleep over it man.
After his overreaction to a neutral tag I am beginning to question whether there is more to the account than I previously thought. Maybe the neutral tag has thrown a spanner in the works for whatever plans he might have had and is now losing sleep over it. His behaviour to a neutral feedback is very strange.

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JollyGood seems to be targeted a lot by Newbies and junior members. I don't have to state the obvious: these accounts are (most likely) alts of tagged members or members in a signature campaign who don't want to reveal themselves or the accounts with some reputation and can't risk saying it from the main.

If there's a possibility that these accounts don't fall under the categories I've mentioned (Which is very low). In that case, I don't know how they learned so much about the forum in such a short period, being these low ranks and having recently registered, disregarding the possibility of them not being alts.
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eally!!! You admit it's unnecessary yet you call it his right. So it's a right of old members of the forum to do anything they wish on newbie members account even when it's obviously unnecessary as you had admitted. This is bs.


You can go look at his sent feedback and check the members he is sending neutral trust to, they are not anywhere close to all newbies. You really shouldn't worry about neutral trust as in most cases it's not going to harm you. I wouldn't lose any sleep over it man.
I will sleep on your words and not get worried anymore than I have. I do appreciate you on this exposure.



This is ridiculous.
I will gladly remove/revise this feedback if a situation for it occurs. Has it?

Btw, I've just seen that JollyGood has 2970 people on his distrust list, lol.
I think it was pointed out by another member that it was the forum record  Grin

If my submitting my posts to fillipone thread makes me a merit seeker as Mr jollygood suggest what then does it makes of all those other users in that thread?  How does his reason for the neutral makes sense  except that he feels he could give out as he wish and nothing will happen.
I agree that everyone who posted their posts in that thread is looking for recognition and possibly merits, but I dont think thats the point here. The main point in his feedback, as far as I can see, is that you dont actively participate in the threads you start.  You are just posting and then leaving. You are not engaging with the community.
Unless I am mistaken, it is universally accepted all members posting in threads where they list their own posts/threads in order to be assessed for merits are effectively seeking merits otherwise they are defeating the object of their intention. Having said that you are absolutely right, the OP does not engage in threads that he creates he simply moves on to create more threads (or he posts elsewhere) and I captured it within my feedback. I also stated it would be revised if it was warranted.

You can go look at his sent feedback and check the members he is sending neutral trust to, they are not anywhere close to all newbies. You really shouldn't worry about neutral trust as in most cases it's not going to harm you. I wouldn't lose any sleep over it man.
After his overreaction to a neutral tag I am beginning to question whether there is more to the account than I previously thought. Maybe the neutral tag has thrown a spanner in the works for whatever plans he might have had and is now losing sleep over it. His behaviour to a neutral feedback is very strange.
You saying you will be glad to revise the feedback if a situation occurs. For a situation that can only be determined by your very satisfaction. You expect I rely on that?

How you chose to question my reaction about your action is left to you. From what I have read in the forum about the categories of different tags the neutral trust is not one of a good sign on a forum member account profile hence my reaction.

JollyGood seems to be targeted a lot by Newbies and junior members. I don't have to state the obvious: these accounts are (most likely) alts of tagged members or members in a signature campaign who don't want to reveal themselves or the accounts with some reputation and can't risk saying it from the main.

If there's a possibility that these accounts don't fall under the categories I've mentioned (Which is very low). In that case, I don't know how they learned so much about the forum in such a short period, being these low ranks and having recently registered, disregarding the possibility of them not being alts.
is one year not sufficient to know about many things in this community or except for a member too daft to learn. I have a challenge which I am aware of right from the day I registered as member of this community, the challenge of not having time to regularly visit the forum due to my busy engagements with my nature of job. The little time I scarcely get to come visit is either to read through important topics of interest and leave.

 or make a comment or post where I have the time to, and my next comeback is what I have never being guaranteed if it will be the next day. Do your checks critically before making assumptions. Thank you.

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The little time I scarcely get to come visit is either to read through important topics of interest and leave.

 or make a comment or post where I have the time to, and my next comeback is what I have never being guaranteed if it will be the next day. Do your checks critically before making assumptions. Thank you.

I wouldn't worry too much about your tag. You should also understand that anyone interested in your person can easily double-check any review left by DT; in addition, the referent link could be more accurate, that is, leading to only 7 of your open topics over a fairly long period.
In the same way, we could advise the OP to be more attentive to each topic you open, add discussions, or close them in time. But I certainly wouldn't start a fight with those who do not support discussion in open topics, namely with you.

 
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January 13, 2025, 05:17:05 PM
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I am not someone who uses the trust ratings feature very often so I might be the wrong person to say this, but I wouldn't write feedback in cases such as this one. Having said that, I do agree with JollyGood's comment about people not participating in the threads they create. I don't like it and it annoys me. Why create a thread that goes on for several pages without writing anything (besides the OP) and not steering the discussion in the right direction. I don't see someone like that as being a genuine user. If you are with a group of people who are speaking about a topic that you brought up, it's only natural that you would participate in that discussion and say something from time to time. You wouldn't just grab your stuff and leave, would you? Act the same way here.

JollyGood has written that he could change his mind if you change your habit of not caring about the discussions you start. If you do, feel free to contact him about it and ask him to reconsider.

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OP... Please.. 

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January 14, 2025, 12:16:02 AM
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JollyGood seems to be targeted a lot by Newbies and junior members. I don't have to state the obvious: these accounts are (most likely) alts of tagged members or members in a signature campaign who don't want to reveal themselves or the accounts with some reputation and can't risk saying it from the main.

If there's a possibility that these accounts don't fall under the categories I've mentioned (Which is very low). In that case, I don't know how they learned so much about the forum in such a short period, being these low ranks and having recently registered, disregarding the possibility of them not being alts.
The likelihood as you pointed out as being more than one account operated by a single puppeteer is the first that comes to mind. There must be something else going on if these relatively new accounts are excessively complaining about a neutral tag. Maybe they are being used sporadically while the puppeteer is consolidating other accounts, maybe it is a different reason but it does not add up.

Why create a thread that goes on for several pages without writing anything (besides the OP) and not steering the discussion in the right direction. I don't see someone like that as being a genuine user. If you are with a group of people who are speaking about a topic that you brought up, it's only natural that you would participate in that discussion and say something from time to time. You wouldn't just grab your stuff and leave, would you? Act the same way here.
Genuine members behave in different way to what the OP has been doing. He seems to have applied more energy in posts related to his neutral tag than he has throughout the lifetime of his Familian account.

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January 16, 2025, 04:11:18 AM
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I am aware am just growing in the forum and may have some lapses  to learn from but in this matter I do take it as a witch-hunt from Mr jollygood. There's no good justification to the tag am seeing on my profile.
You were tagged for a reason too. But I don't know if you are paying attention or not, the tagging of me is a complete not right. Although I tried to clear the entire issue with them, they took it the other way around and thought negatively. Anyway, I am depending on whether he will remove it, let's see what he does.

Personally, I would tell you that you should try to contact JollyGood in a PM and clear everything, if there is no problem, then he will definitely solve it.

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January 19, 2025, 09:11:29 PM
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OP... Please.. 


Can't tell precisely but it could be that it hurts most in my ass the passage to your brains.

Was there a place in my post I said the neutral pains me or you just decided to come make fun of real matters to attract a good boy attention?

lovesmayfamilis, thanks for your words, I'll keep that in mind and work on it.
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