On the dialogue for cease fire, Zelensky unleash invasion on Moscow

[EluguHcman]

Nothing but the truth with what Donald Trump has said that the  Ukraine’s Resistance Against Russia’s Full-Scale Invasion May Not Survive Even With US Aid.
Without undermining that the US holds the world power with it military edges, Russia has do have it military equipments and strategies over the US which Donald Trump has taken into earlier informed by asking Zelensky to comply with the peace talk following his agreement with Putin because of Ukraine fails to back off with the intenses that they (Ukraine) would always lean on the US military supports, Russia will still defeat them so, there is the insight of Trump asking Zelensky to follow suit of cease fire as the Russian has also been called to order.

Just few days after Trump made the statement Zelensky accused Putin of thwarting Trump’s peace plan. So he HIT Moscow with another major drone strikes.
The attack of the Ukraine in Moscow happened even when Trumps diplomatic representative Steve Witkoff was on ground in Moscow in negotiation of the Trump's craving end of war of the Russian and Ukrainian war which has lasted over 3 years now.

I wanted us to look into this caption "Putin wanted to thwart the Trumps cease fire approach". How was the Putin intension detected by Zelensky if Putin has not realistically made the attempt as allegedly accused?
Also if to be lawfully justified, was Zelensky right or wrong of his action invading Russian while cease fire was on negotiation?
Or is the US (Donald Trump) gaming with this whole peace structures?
So much before I forget, Zelensky recently met with the crown prince of Saudi, does it mean the Ukraine government is making a turn around of aligning with the Saudi for support in place of the US since Trump has sounded not encouraging so they (Ukraine) need to source alternative for military supports Incase the US fails them.

With a deep insight i don't see this war ending soon and the response of Putin might be disasterous acknowledging their nuclear deterrence, artillery and hypersonic weapons which is some Worth reasons they are advantage of the US on hostility.

[Fiatless]

Both Ukraine and Russia are trying to gain grounds before a ceasefire deal will be sealed. Getting more territories might be important during negotiations. Saudi Arabia doesn't have the military might to enforce a ceasefire, they are just middlemen that hosts these negotiation meetings. Putin and Trump will soon discuss the sharing of lands, power plants and other Ukrainian assets. So I suspect that the war will soon come to an end. It is also clear that both parties are tired of fighting and want peace. Russia is seeking a favourable deal, and it seems the US will be willing to give it to Putin.

[Vod]

Putin and Trump will soon discuss the sharing of lands, power plants and other Ukrainian assets. So I suspect that the war will soon come to an end. It is also clear that both parties are tired of fighting and want peace. Russia is seeking a favourable deal, and it seems the US will be willing to give it to Putin.

Ukraine has stated many times they will not agree to anything if they are not part of the negotiation.  And I think the world is behind them on this. 

[BADecker]

Seems to me that no ceasefire will take place. Both sides, Russia and Ukraine, can't agree on what a ceasefire should entail.

What this means is that Russia will soon be the authority over Ukraine. Whether or not they take full control is something we will have to wait to see. Russia has in the past had at least an excuse for their 'invasion' of Ukraine. Imagine what the area would look like if Ukraine became fully Russian. Think of the scurrying that Poland and the other Ukraine western border nations would be doing.

Without US help, NATO nations don't really have a lot of power. They don't really have enough agreement among themselves to do anything together. "NATO" is words, not action.

Could this lead to a nuclear war? It seems that if such were going to happen, it already would have. What is the activity that has to happen to make nukes the only option?

[LTU_btc]

Shortly, you see what Zelensky, but you don't see what Putin is doing. And that drone attack on Moscow - not even sure how it can be called invasion. And I don't see nothing wrong with it. Actually, I think it was too small to have some impact.
Why I don't see nothing wrong with it? Because there is no ceasefire, even negotiations for it between Russia and Ukraine haven't started. War goes on as it was going for more than 3 years.
Meanwhile every night Russia attacks Ukrainian cities with hundreds of Shahed drones and missiles and they're not showing any intentions to stop. But I haven't saw anything about it in your post.

[JackMazzoni]

It is hard to stop a war when both sides are still strong. A war naturally ends when there is a winner and the loser accepts its fate—that is the natural order of things. The strong control the weak. It is the law of nature.

[EluguHcman]

Putin and Trump will soon discuss the sharing of lands, power plants and other Ukrainian assets. So I suspect that the war will soon come to an end. It is also clear that both parties are tired of fighting and want peace. Russia is seeking a favourable deal, and it seems the US will be willing to give it to Putin.

Ukraine has stated many times they will not agree to anything if they are not part of the negotiation.  And I think the world is behind them on this. 

The indoor meeting of Donald Trump and Putin before the peace talk agenda was brought to Zelensky was what brought the controversy.

Along the lines it was partly like his (Zelensky's) government or Ukraine as it implies was being underrated and Zelensky based on his intelligence investigations denotes that the negotiation would end to the victory of Ukraine.
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So apparently, the war would seem unending any moment soon
I would not know the faith of the Ukraine either if the US government will still provide them with military supports since they (Ukraine) has seem to had broken the peace dialogue hosted my Trump.

[Reynaldo]

This whole Ukraine-Russia situation is getting more complex by the day. Both sides trying to strengthen their positions before any real ceasefire happens is just game theory 101  Reminds me a lot of what we see in crypto markets before major protocol changes  everyone positioning before the rules shift.

[DeathAngel]

We are closer to peace now than at any time since the conflict began. It’s still not a full peace deal but Trump agreed a partial ceasefire with Putin yesterday. Hopefully this is the first small step on the way to ending this war once & for all. Too many people have lost their lives, it needs to stop.

[EluguHcman]

We are closer to peace now than at any time since the conflict began. It’s still not a full peace deal but Trump agreed a partial ceasefire with Putin yesterday. Hopefully this is the first small step on the way to ending this war once & for all. Too many people have lost their lives, it needs to stop.

I am not aware of this but as long "peace" is mentioned and actualized to where both sides will be abided, that really will be remarkable because a lot of lives and properties has been wasted to no avail to be classified as means to bring better society.

But if you ask me, I would doubt that Putin will just accept the recent negotiation with Trump.
I fear that the Russia government might react back to the Ukraine as Tit for Tat (equal retaliation) just after the Ukraine hit them up before they would be ready for dialogue.

This might really be disrespectful to Trump when these countries will refuse to obey his command and as follows... I hope the war ends but I don't see it happen soon.

[BADecker]

It would be nice to have peace. If Trump tries hard enough and long enough, he might even find the reasoning that will bring peace about. But so far 'peace' is just a word that both sides apply a tiny bit, and then go on with the war... maybe even worse than before.


Zelensky Backs Trump Proposal To Halt All Strikes On Energy Facilities


https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukraine-quickly-intentionally-broke-putin-trump-deal-energy-targets-moscow
Update(1220ET): Fresh off a Wednesday morning phone call with President Trump, Zelensky has said that he backs the US proposal to halt all strikes on energy facilities in the context of the Ukraine war, according to Bloomberg. Still, he has at the same time vowed to 'win this war'.

Just hours prior, overnight, Ukrainian drones had targeted a Russian oil facility in Krasnodar Region, resulting in damage and a large fire at a oil tank. The one-hour phone call was described as "very good" by Trump on Truth Social.

"Much of the discussion was based on the call made yesterday with President Putin in order to align both Russia and Ukraine in terms of their requests and needs," the president wrote.

"We are very much on track, and I will ask Secretary of State Marco Rubio, and National Security Advisor Michael Waltz, to give an accurate description of the points discussed."

If the tit-for-tat strikes on energy facilities actually halt for the 30-day period, this could indeed jump-start other major agreements, a first in the war.


During Tuesday's Trump-Putin phone call, which lasted some 90-minutes, the White House said that President Putin committed to a halt of attacks on Ukraine's energy infrastructure for a period of 30-days. The Kremlin readout also appeared to acknowledge and agree to this.

Less than 24 hours later, Russia has accused Ukraine of already breaking the Trump agreement. Russia's defense ministry on Wednesday said Ukraine attack an oil transfer facility in Russia's Krasnodar Region that services an international pipeline operation partially owned by American investors.
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[Saukiyakui]

At this rate, the war will not end soon, Putin clearly does not need it.