Trump "pauses tariffs"

[paxmao]

paxmao
i really wishyou would take the time to think inbetween posts
im trying my best not to spoon feed you walls of text explanations and hoping you learn to feed yourself from more sources with proper research rather than just asking a new mommy(lame media) to be spoonfed by
im not even trying to get you to just beleive me. i prefer you look for your own real sources and think for yourself without being spoonfed

but it seems you prefer spoonfeeding and want wall of texts. so heres one for you

Yes Franky, as I said many times, there is a good reason why things are being built where they are built. You cannot replicate the skills, the abundance of labour and the ecosystem to produce the high-value added.

You want to "rip the deals", sure... you will mostly find that the deals where there for a reason and they were right for the US.

i dont want to rip anything. kinda weird you are playing this game as if im american and invovled in the deals. im just trying to teach readers how things work in the real world. by getting people think for themselves beyond lame media
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Franky, I am sorry to break this to you, but you are actually on the lame media side. Trump has actively prevented any contrarian views by punishing media that do dare to question or think for themselves. You cannot label yourself a "freethinker" and follow to the letter Trump's narrative.

Anyway, there are two gods of investments that for now have been vocal about a likely big time recession. This is Ray Dalio and now Warren Buffet. Regarding this one, he is putting his money where his mouth is (or better said, getting his money into liquidity as fast as possible.

What do you think Franky... are they wrong? Do you think they are not "free enough" nor do proper research (nor your DIY, but the real one by professional who actually understand the economy). Maybe they are "absorbed" by lame media?

[franky1]

i dont just read lame media and take it as gospel. i read beyond the lame media, and research deeper.
i also ignore lame media that play out an agenda of their own. and its actually a good thing if you do too.. instead of thinking that they are your god for being contrarian
(you might want to research the word contrarian)

funnily enough you think your echo chamber confirmation bias views are that of the popular opinion. yet you hate and despise that i look beyond the echo chamber.. meaning im contrarian to your echo chamber.. but you insult me with your childish behaviour.. kinda hypocritical of you.. right?

you however have shown many instances to just read lame media and quote it like a parrot squawks. you are not contrarian at all, nor do you support contrarian views. you just go along with whats viral/popular even when its wrong

...
anways
my view of economics is as simple as the karate kid painting a fence
"uppp, dowwn, uppp downn"

economy is never stable there are always times of growth and decline

media however scream "inflation" then "recession" both in a project fear manner
well yes expect it (ups and downs) there will always be periods of inflation and recession.. otherwise its just stagflation

its also why i have a huge hoard of BTC but dont panic over the bitcoin ATH and then corrections.. i expect the ups and downs. and i manoeuvre my financial decisions appropriately to the opportunity of both. to me the ATH is an opportunity. as is the correction dip an opportunity
#buy-low:sell-high

whats more important is not the project fear of "OMG ITS GOING UP" "OMG ITS GOING DOWN" making people fear both
but to instead look at the size of the up and down, the speed of the up and down and more importantly what economic sectors are actually going up or down
and even more importantly whom exactly is or was affected by the change

EG
inflation is good for home sellers, but bad for home buyers
food cost inflation is bad for consumers but can be good for farmers/retailers

recession is good for home buyers but bad for home sellers
food cost recession is good for consumers but can be bad for retailers and farmers

so instead of just screaming you are afraid of inflation AND recession because lame media made you afraid. actually learn to do some research into which sectors are going up or down and how it affects you personally and find the opportunity in both

EG if your current situation is wanting to buy your first home. then recession is good for you
EG if you are a farmer wanting to sell your produce and then sell your farm, inflation is good for you

so instead of just squawking like a parrot whatever lame media says which does not attribute its opinion to individuals personal circumstance. actually articulate and research the details by doing research. learn how it will affect you personally. and then have a personal opinion based on how a financial period of inflation or recession would affect you

..

to address your question more precisely
what might be good for warren buffet as a business may be bad for you as his consumer
what might be bad for warren buffet as a business may be good for you as his consumer

so dont just go along with warren buffets fears or excited opinion.. as your financial status and response to recession/inflation may differ to warren buffet

EG (bitcoin economic expert advice of blackrock)
when blackrock wants the BTC market to pump. they make announcements shouting their overly inflated view of 2025's future ATH. but this is because they have already bought and now want the lame media readers to pump the price so that blackrock can sell
they want people to buy whilst blackrock is actually ready to sell

this is why you have to look deeper and do research and not just follow their advise. because their motives and economic position may not match yours

.
EG buffet might liquidate assets he already has because he see's these assets as dropping in price so he might want to exit before the drop. and so what you should be thinking about is.. the price is going down. so it can be a good time to buy in at the upcoming low(its discount).
dont sell at a loss.. instead buy more at a discount

and remember this little nugget of advice
by the time its publicly announced that a stock market is in recession... its already had 6months(2 quarters) of price drops.. so you panic selling after public announcement is too late to then sell due to lame media project fear. instead(as i have said), buy at the discount

..
also your lame media of project fear is trying to quote warren buffet as suggesting people should worry about a big time recession
but lets counter your lame media narrative with a quote from warren himself very recently telling people to calm down, prices go up and down, thats the beauty of stock markets. people need to check and leave their emotions at the door

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyxu-gan3O8

[Zanab247]

When the tariffs are properly in place, and the dust dies down, there will be no more Federal income tax. Then all the people living on Social Security will be really envious of those who are working for a living. They might even go out and get a job just to feel good about not having to pay income tax any longer.

And you think government will allow what will remove their tax to occur in the country, because I know  fully well government use tax to generate money to finance some projects that is making people to count the president in power among the best president in the whole world. Since the tariff has been paused, let us watch what will happen next when the pause be lift up, before we will know what the new administration have for the citizens.

I don't think social security will be envious of those that are doing physical Job, because they know how difficult it is for someone to get a good Job and started spending on transport to meet up on company activities to be entitle to weekly or monthly payment.

[Franctoshi]

When the tariffs are properly in place, and the dust dies down, there will be no more Federal income tax. Then all the people living on Social Security will be really envious of those who are working for a living. They might even go out and get a job just to feel good about not having to pay income tax any longer.

And you think government will allow what will remove their tax to occur in the country, because I know  fully well government use tax to generate money to finance some projects that is making people to count the president in power among the best president in the whole world. Since the tariff has been paused, let us watch what will happen next when the pause be lift up, before we will know what the new administration have for the citizens.

I don't think social security will be envious of those that are doing physical Job, because they know how difficult it is for someone to get a good Job and started spending on transport to meet up on company activities to be entitle to weekly or monthly payment.

The tariffs has both it positive and negative impact on the country and its economy, let's dive into it a bit on the negative impact and not just focused only on the revenue generation you made mention that this tariffs will bring.

Increased prices of goods which are goona hit back on the consumers because of high importation fees which can affect the demand side and affecting businesse and causing the shrinking or dwindling of the economy.

Secondly, another effect or impact of what this tariffs does is its disruption of global trade or supply chains and countries cutting their supply or importation and that's exactly what we're curretly experiencing because most companies hugely depend on international trade to survive.
We can futher look at its damaging of relationship between one country and the other, example the US and its European allies might decline due to escalating trade wars.

[Uhwuchukwu53]

There are policy that will not work out well no matter the advantage the disadvantage will outweigh it, the tariff itself will make the citizens unrest because tariff is another way of currency depreciation because when goods and others service will increase their charges it will reduce the value of the currency as citizens are to pay more when purchasing the same quality of item they could afford with lessee price before tariff.

[paxmao]

i dont just read lame media and take it as gospel. i read beyond the lame media, and research deeper.
i also ignore lame media that play out an agenda of their own. and its actually a good thing if you do too.. instead of thinking that they are your god for being contrarian
(you might want to research the word contrarian)

funnily enough you think your echo chamber confirmation bias views are that of the popular opinion. yet you hate and despise that i look beyond the echo chamber.. meaning im contrarian to your echo chamber.. but you insult me with your childish behaviour.. kinda hypocritical of you.. right?

you however have shown many instances to just read lame media and quote it like a parrot squawks. you are not contrarian at all, nor do you support contrarian views. you just go along with whats viral/popular even when its wrong

...
anways
my view of economics is as simple as the karate kid painting a fence
"uppp, dowwn, uppp downn"

economy is never stable there are always times of growth and decline

media however scream "inflation" then "recession" both in a project fear manner
well yes expect it (ups and downs) there will always be periods of inflation and recession.. otherwise its just stagflation

its also why i have a huge hoard of BTC but dont panic over the bitcoin ATH and then corrections.. i expect the ups and downs. and i manoeuvre my financial decisions appropriately to the opportunity of both. to me the ATH is an opportunity. as is the correction dip an opportunity
#buy-low:sell-high

whats more important is not the project fear of "OMG ITS GOING UP" "OMG ITS GOING DOWN" making people fear both
but to instead look at the size of the up and down, the speed of the up and down and more importantly what economic sectors are actually going up or down
and even more importantly whom exactly is or was affected by the change

EG
inflation is good for home sellers, but bad for home buyers
food cost inflation is bad for consumers but can be good for farmers/retailers

recession is good for home buyers but bad for home sellers
food cost recession is good for consumers but can be bad for retailers and farmers

so instead of just screaming you are afraid of inflation AND recession because lame media made you afraid. actually learn to do some research into which sectors are going up or down and how it affects you personally and find the opportunity in both

EG if your current situation is wanting to buy your first home. then recession is good for you
EG if you are a farmer wanting to sell your produce and then sell your farm, inflation is good for you

so instead of just squawking like a parrot whatever lame media says which does not attribute its opinion to individuals personal circumstance. actually articulate and research the details by doing research. learn how it will affect you personally. and then have a personal opinion based on how a financial period of inflation or recession would affect you

..

to address your question more precisely
what might be good for warren buffet as a business may be bad for you as his consumer
what might be bad for warren buffet as a business may be good for you as his consumer

so dont just go along with warren buffets fears or excited opinion.. as your financial status and response to recession/inflation may differ to warren buffet

EG (bitcoin economic expert advice of blackrock)
when blackrock wants the BTC market to pump. they make announcements shouting their overly inflated view of 2025's future ATH. but this is because they have already bought and now want the lame media readers to pump the price so that blackrock can sell
they want people to buy whilst blackrock is actually ready to sell

this is why you have to look deeper and do research and not just follow their advise. because their motives and economic position may not match yours

.
EG buffet might liquidate assets he already has because he see's these assets as dropping in price so he might want to exit before the drop. and so what you should be thinking about is.. the price is going down. so it can be a good time to buy in at the upcoming low(its discount).
dont sell at a loss.. instead buy more at a discount

and remember this little nugget of advice
by the time its publicly announced that a stock market is in recession... its already had 6months(2 quarters) of price drops.. so you panic selling after public announcement is too late to then sell due to lame media project fear. instead(as i have said), buy at the discount

..
also your lame media of project fear is trying to quote warren buffet as suggesting people should worry about a big time recession
but lets counter your lame media narrative with a quote from warren himself very recently telling people to calm down, prices go up and down, thats the beauty of stock markets. people need to check and leave their emotions at the door

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyxu-gan3O8

I am the first one who will take advantage of a market downturn, but let's be honest: this market downturn is not a COVID or a credit crisis like in 2008,... it is completly Trump made. People need to know this is not just "the ups and downs".

Again, breking new for you, the fact that you think differently from people who actually have studied and worked for decades on a topic does most likely make you wrong, not the opposite. Buffet has never been in the "fearmongering" area, the CEO of Apple is not in the fearmongering, ....

Apart from other simplistic statments here that proof you desperately need to learn.

e.g. people trying to buy a home DO NOT benefit from a recession because a recession lowers everyone's income and many people loses their job. The prices of assets inclusive housing tends to drop, but banks do not give credit and people have lower income.

Inflation is good only if you have assets protected against inflation - and there are not that many. The moment assets are good, the moment people are usually coinless - average people, the rich do not mind one way or another or may even take good benefit.

Remember the "nuggets" of advice that many people who actually know how it works

[franky1]

Again, breking new for you, the fact that you think differently from people who actually have studied and worked for decades on a topic does most likely make you wrong, not the opposite. Buffet has never been in the "fearmongering" area, the CEO of Apple is not in the fearmongering, ....

oh you inept troll

firstly YOU have been trying to drag warren buffets name into project fear lame media games.. i had to correct you multiple times that buffet was laughing(not afraid)..
and then this month you tried to do it i told you that he doesnt really care about the short term drama waves of these ups and downs, and wants people to stop being emotional

YOU are the one trying to make people be worried by pretending buffet is afraid
...

also you say the business market is your expertise and yet after weeks of asking you to research and then be able to discuss things like freeports/ftz.. and other things like MFN that affect tariffs

and you cant even do the basics of that.. so sorry but you have no clue
heck you had no clue of the "de-minimus" amount nor when it expired

so how about go learn the stuff,, you had ample opportunity

i do not try to call myself an expert. i dont even want to have to spoonfeed people. i actually wish people to actually learn things for themselves..
i just hapen to actually bother to do the research. and i simply wish others would too

..
as to how things will work on going
everyone knows america are not going to shut the borders completely and have everything built domestically from raw material to retail product.. so stop that silly story
learn that businesses are going to do the final phase assembly plant model and instead of being singularly dependant on china as parts/material supplier. they will decentralise and use multiple sources of supplies to then assemble

..
and lastly to note:
by you getting exceptionally emotional in the last few months shows you LACK of decades of experience of international trade and exploration. because tariffs are not new to this year, they have existed for decades. so the only reason you think its new this year is because you are relying on lame media. not real life experience

good luck with your failures but if you want to try to have a educated conversation on a topic atleast try to learn the subject and do some research. you have had hints, suggestions and tips on what to learn so that you can have a deeper depth of knowledge to speak about. but you have only shown ignorance on learning such

all you can do is quote others, but out of context.(your try to twist quotes to fit some lame echo chamber opinion you formed before you even learned about the subject)
which shows your not even listening to what they are saying.. so just try better. learn more, and do it not for others, but for your own sake

and one last point just to ram the point home

e.g. people trying to buy a home DO NOT benefit from a recession because a recession lowers everyone's income and many people loses their job. The prices of assets inclusive housing tends to drop, but banks do not give credit and people have lower income.

when a recession is officially announced.. the market drama has ALREADY OCCURRED for 6 months+ meaning those that lost their jobs in the previous 6 months may now have new jobs and the houses are already at lower levels.. they're not about to start going down
so yes its a benefit for people to buy a home now they secured a new job and house prices are low

how can you even pretend to have many years experience when you dont even know that by the time a recession is announced the markets have already been dropping for 6 months

[paxmao]

Again, breking new for you, the fact that you think differently from people who actually have studied and worked for decades on a topic does most likely make you wrong, not the opposite. Buffet has never been in the "fearmongering" area, the CEO of Apple is not in the fearmongering, ....

oh you inept troll

Any dumbass can call names. It speaks a lot... about you.

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firstly YOU have been trying to drag warren buffets name into project fear lame media games.. i had to correct you multiple times that buffet was laughing(not afraid)..
and then this month you tried to do it i told you that he doesnt really care about the short term drama waves of these ups and downs, and wants people to stop being emotional

I have quoted Warren and I could quote some of what he said during the 2025 Berkshire anual meeting.

You call "emotional", but you are baseless. Your responses however have little factuality and lot of ad-hominem. Do not get me wrong, getting emotional is sometimes a good thing, but not with money.

The fact is that you are defending Trump. If tomorrow he decided to impose tariffs on baby milk you would make up some numbers and "show" how everyone saying it is a wrong idea is wrong, how great idea it is, etc.

Now THAT is emotional. You cannot confront the fact that Trump has a plan that is basically crap, based on the wrong ideas given to him by people who cannot tell the ass from their mouth.

And your... Franky, they get paid a lot... you are the cheerleader here.

YOU are the one trying to make people be worried by pretending buffet is afraid
...

also you say the business market is your expertise and yet after weeks of asking you to research and then be able to discuss things like freeports/ftz.. and other things like MFN that affect tariffs

I have. "Freeports" do not solve all the issues I have pointed out repeatedly. You have choosen to ignore them because they do not fit your narrative. THAT is emotional.

and you cant even do the basics of that.. so sorry but you have no clue
heck you had no clue of the "de-minimus" amount nor when it expired

so how about go learn the stuff,, you had ample opportunity

i do not try to call myself an expert.

No you should definitely must not try to call yourself an expert.

 In fact you have ignored over an over the opinions of actual experts that again, do not fit your narrative.

i dont even want to have to spoonfeed people. i actually wish people to actually learn things for themselves..
i just hapen to actually bother to do the research. and i simply wish others would too

..
as to how things will work on going
everyone knows america are not going to shut the borders completely and have everything built domestically from raw material to retail product.. so stop that silly story

I do not need to stop it since I have not said anything like that. I am saying - again - that the tariffs are going to (perhaps already did) impacting the general US public and more the ones with lower rents.

learn that businesses are going to do the final phase assembly plant model and instead of being singularly dependant on china as parts/material supplier. they will decentralise and use multiple sources of supplies to then assemble

..
and lastly to note:
by you getting exceptionally emotional in the last few months shows you LACK of decades of experience of international trade and exploration. because tariffs are not new to this year, they have existed for decades. so the only reason you think its new this year is because you are relying on lame media. not real life experience

good luck with your failures but if you want to try to have a educated conversation on a topic atleast try to learn the subject and do some research. you have had hints, suggestions and tips on what to learn so that you can have a deeper depth of knowledge to speak about. but you have only shown ignorance on learning such

all you can do is quote others, but out of context.(your try to twist quotes to fit some lame echo chamber opinion you formed before you even learned about the subject)
which shows your not even listening to what they are saying.. so just try better. learn more, and do it not for others, but for your own sake

It does not seem anything like you trying to have an educated conversation. Are you sure you are stable? You seem to contradict yourself even in the same paragraph?

and one last point just to ram the point home

e.g. people trying to buy a home DO NOT benefit from a recession because a recession lowers everyone's income and many people loses their job. The prices of assets inclusive housing tends to drop, but banks do not give credit and people have lower income.

when a recession is officially announced.. the market drama has ALREADY OCCURRED for 6 months+ meaning those that lost their jobs in the previous 6 months may now have new jobs and the houses are already at lower levels.. they're not about to start going down
so yes its a benefit for people to buy a home now they secured a new job and house prices are low

how can you even pretend to have many years experience when you dont even know that by the time a recession is announced the markets have already been dropping for 6 months

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It does not work like that.

The fact that a recession is "announced" - which I have to translate to proper language as "confirmation of two consecutive quarters of negative growth" matters little.

Your argument is that when a depression happens, people looking for homes benefit. It is false and is simple to understand: people looking for homes see houses at a lower price (sometimes, as usually the funds start buying in some areas) BUT these people are usually either without job, with uncertainty in their jobs, at lower salaries or dismissed by the banks as they tighten the rules. I am sure you are not going to do so, but you could look at the 2008 crisis and how what you say did not happen.

BTW, I do not have to pretend to have years of experience, but I do not use "real life" or "my experience" for things that are well known - like predicting what happens when an apple falls from a tree and your head is right below.

[franky1]

In fact you have ignored over an over the opinions of actual experts that again, do not fit your narrative.

the toddler still cries..
but you dont realise YOU used warren buffet as a reference but totally disregarded what warren actually said

so i corrected you by actually referencing him and highlighting his words..

months ago you tried to say he feared tariffs.. and i corrected you with his actual words and demeanour of "[chuckles] to some degree "
then recently you tried again. but i again sent you a link of him saying that he experienced waves of 50%+ market changes and so anyone getting emotional over 15% swings need to check their emotions at the door

its actually warren that doesnt align with YOUR philosophy(project fear) so you rewrite his script but what i have been saying all along does align with warren and i can just reference him as is

i even used his favourite business coca-cola as a case study of how businesses will operate.. which contradicts your philosophy

oh and by the way. trump wants 100% fully made american. i was saying final assembly model is the process businesses are going for
so you thinking im just quoting/aligning with trump and not experts is a lie on your part

and thats why you are inept. you dont even remember whats been said and cant even remember which side of the fence you sit on
if you dont suffer from learning difficulties. you suffer from reading issues

YOU are the one that thinks everything should be 100% US made and you have even tried to suggest the false timescales and costs even those practices would take
i even had to correct you with actual real world examples that managed to do things in less time and cost than what you spouted
...

this is why you should stop using your emotions to just slam the reply button to then recite nonsense and instead learn the topic you are talking in

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if all you can see is fear.. then you cant see the opportunity. which makes you very bad supposed "experienced" "finance" guy..
get your emotions in check

[paxmao]

In fact you have ignored over an over the opinions of actual experts that again, do not fit your narrative.

the toddler still cries..

... still calling names. Dude, get your shit together. I know it must be difficult to defend Trump, but it is not my fault.

but you dont realise YOU used warren buffet as a reference but totally disregarded what warren actually said

Nope. He said what I say he said: "Tariffs are not paid by the tooth fairy".

so i corrected you by actually referencing him and highlighting his words..

months ago you tried to say he feared tariffs.. and i corrected you with his actual words and demeanour of "[chuckles] to some degree "
then recently you tried again. but i again sent you a link of him saying that he experienced waves of 50%+ market changes and so anyone getting emotional over 15% swings need to check their emotions at the door

Franky, you are again talking about things you do not know - e.g. me and how I run my business. Just saying stuff over and over does not make it any better... makes it boring (that is an emotion I am feeling, I reckon).

its actually warren that doesnt align with YOUR philosophy(project fear) so you rewrite his script but what i have been saying all along does align with warren and i can just reference him as is

i even used his favourite business coca-cola as a case study of how businesses will operate.. which contradicts your philosophy

oh and by the way. trump wants 100% fully made american. i was saying final assembly model is the process businesses are going for
so you thinking im just quoting/aligning with trump and not experts is a lie on your part

and thats why you are inept. you dont even remember whats been said and cant even remember which side of the fence you sit on

Seriously, do you understand that calling me stuff does hurt you and your personal image much more than mine?

if you dont suffer from learning difficulties. you suffer from reading issues

I have some difficulty reading yes without close-up lenses... other than that... sorry, you have missed 3 out of three... keep throwing shit to the wall, who knows... it might stick some day.

YOU are the one that thinks everything should be 100% US made and you have even tried to suggest the false timescales and costs even those practices would take
i even had to correct you with actual real world examples that managed to do things in less time and cost than what you spouted
...

Never said that. I said that there is a price to pay for US made. That there is a reason why stuff is build, made, assembled or even invented in other places and that is because it is cheaper, better, faster....

You want US made, you will get worse, more expensive, later...

Look, Trump is backing up from many of the tariffs. even the recent deal with UK barely leaves a 10% (broadly speaking).

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/05/08/us/trump-uk-trade-news

A this point you are defending something that Trump is no longer defending himself. It is starting to be embarrasing (for you I mean, I am having laugh after laugh reading you).

this is why you should stop using your emotions to just slam the reply button to then recite nonsense and instead learn the topic you are talking in

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if all you can see is fear.. then you cant see the opportunity. which makes you very bad supposed "experienced" "finance" guy..
get your emotions in check

Mm... try saying it another 20 times. Who knows... maybe it will work. But know that "doing the same thing and expecting a different result"... you know or do you need to DYOR to know how this finishes.

[franky1]

YOU are the one that thinks everything should be 100% US made and you have even tried to suggest the false timescales and costs even those practices would take
i even had to correct you with actual real world examples that managed to do things in less time and cost than what you spouted
...

Never said that. I said that there is a price to pay for US made. That there is a reason why stuff is build, made, assembled or even invented in other places and that is because it is cheaper, better, faster....

You want US made, you will get worse, more expensive, later...

Look, Trump is backing up from many of the tariffs. even the recent deal with UK barely leaves a 10% (broadly speaking).

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/05/08/us/trump-uk-trade-news

A this point you are defending something that Trump is no longer defending himself. It is starting to be embarrasing (for you I mean, I am having laugh after laugh reading you).

i am not following or supporting or idolising trump.. heck im not even american so i dont need trump.

i was the one telling you that internationa and american business is not even going the way trump wants things
i was the one telling you how warrens business plan for coca-cola was and still is 'assembly plant' based, hence he aint bothered by the drama and is chuckling instead
i was the one telling you about assembly plant business plans as the way forward for many industries and companies. i even gave you case studies to look into

YOU were the one obsessed with 100% american made scenarios
YOU kept reciting big exagerated costs and timescales america would need to perform to get it to 100% us made.
YOU have been projecting project fear of how things in your mind will go via your silly scenario

i was the one showing you case studies of how actual businesses already are doing assembly only upgrades and new facilities and doing it quickly and cheaply

you could only cry about how you fear that things wont work out and it cause chaos in your '100% american' requirement/preference scenarios

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oh and by the way this forum is not snapchat that destroys posts after time. so the post history shows your emotional games of project fear and trolling. and shows me correcting you at every point with:
actual quotes with context, debunking your snippets out of context
actual real world business operations and case studies, debunking your exaggerated 'projected estimates'
and even me telling you many hints about some research you can do which you have failed to even try to do.

your only knowledge of tariffs and what is going on, came from lame media news reports.. not research

so just get a grip and realise the post history speaks for itself and your emotions are meaningless so just stop with the emotion and atleast learn something

warren is not afraid of these trade deals and tariffs no matter how many times you mention his name. his own words speak for themselves too
realise there are loopholes to the tariffs where no one has to pay the official amounts if you know the tricks. and many businesses do, including warren

as for your supposed business
if you are not taking this season as a opportunity to expand. and instead you are in project fear mode.. you will find your own failures yourself soon

so for your own sake.. LEARN SOMETHING

[paxmao]

YOU are the one that thinks everything should be 100% US made and you have even tried to suggest the false timescales and costs even those practices would take
i even had to correct you with actual real world examples that managed to do things in less time and cost than what you spouted
...

Never said that. I said that there is a price to pay for US made. That there is a reason why stuff is build, made, assembled or even invented in other places and that is because it is cheaper, better, faster....

You want US made, you will get worse, more expensive, later...

Look, Trump is backing up from many of the tariffs. even the recent deal with UK barely leaves a 10% (broadly speaking).

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/05/08/us/trump-uk-trade-news

A this point you are defending something that Trump is no longer defending himself. It is starting to be embarrasing (for you I mean, I am having laugh after laugh reading you).

i am not following or supporting or idolising trump.. heck im not even american so i dont need trump.

i was the one telling you that internationa and american business is not even going the way trump wants things
i was the one telling you how warrens business plan for coca-cola was and still is 'assembly plant' based, hence he aint bothered by the drama and is chuckling instead
i was the one telling you about assembly plant business plans as the way forward for many industries and companies. i even gave you case studies to look into

YOU were the one obsessed with 100% american made scenarios
YOU kept reciting big exagerated costs and timescales america would need to perform to get it to 100% us made.
YOU have been projecting project fear of how things in your mind will go via your silly scenario

i was the one showing you case studies of how actual businesses already are doing assembly only upgrades and new facilities and doing it quickly and cheaply

you could only cry about how you fear that things wont work out and it cause chaos in your '100% american' requirement/preference scenarios

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oh and by the way this forum is not snapchat that destroys posts after time. so the post history shows your emotional games of project fear and trolling. and shows me correcting you at every point with:
actual quotes with context, debunking your snippets out of context
actual real world business operations and case studies, debunking your exaggerated 'projected estimates'
and even me telling you many hints about some research you can do which you have failed to even try to do.

your only knowledge of tariffs and what is going on, came from lame media news reports.. not research

so just get a grip and realise the post history speaks for itself and your emotions are meaningless so just stop with the emotion and atleast learn something

warren is not afraid of these trade deals and tariffs no matter how many times you mention his name. his own words speak for themselves too
realise there are loopholes to the tariffs where no one has to pay the official amounts if you know the tricks. and many businesses do, including warren

as for your supposed business
if you are not taking this season as a opportunity to expand. and instead you are in project fear mode.. you will find your own failures yourself soon

so for your own sake.. LEARN SOMETHING

You have posted a case study, fine. But a case is just a case, and works under that case (I am going to ignore the accuracy of the numbers here). It is pretty basic to know (for someone who is telling me to learn) that one case does not make a general rule - not even just a few. The fact that many people who actually understand the economy are telling you that this is NOT going to work should make you think twice.

What I am saying is that you cannot generalise to a blanket tariff increase across nearly all sectors and nearly all countries for all the reasons I have stated - which is actually what Trump is doing and... not doing now.

The companies are now faced with a dilema: go to the US produce expensive (if you can) and assume the risk of not being competitive or... remain outside and face a government that changes the rules one day to another.

This does damage global growth and I am guessing it is going to affect inflation along the year (Trump now is angrily shouting in caps all over social media because Jerome Powel and the Fed are not "believing" him. Somehow he expects that the Fed has to come to the rescue of his negligence, to the point of starting the name-calling as usual...

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5289408-donald-trump-jerome-powell-interest-rates/

I guess Trump is finally facing a degree of accountability against the one thing that he cannot destroy - the Fed Chair (at least for now).

“There’s a great deal of uncertainty about … where tariff policies are going to settle out and also, when they do settle out, what will be the implications for the economy, for growth and for employment,” the Fed chief added.

“‘Too Late’ Jerome Powell is a FOOL, who doesn’t have a clue,” Trump wrote on his Truth Social platform.

Of course, the chair of the Fed, with degrees in Princeton, Georgetown, books written and decades working for the likes of Salomon Brothers, Carlyle Group, founder of an Investment Fund...too long to list... yeah... he is a fool and Trump is the one "who knows". Oh... and you, Franky of course.

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again the ignorant and arrogant inep troll keeps being blind to the obvious. he keeps thinking i only mentioned one thing. when this forum post history shows i gave many real life examples

just a few examples of case studies i have already mentioned
coca cola
foxconn
tesla
GM

he also ignores the ability of this forums archiving and visibility of previous posts that show that i explained numerous times that it does not take years to set up all industries nor majority of industries to his inept standard... or silly scenarios he makes up

businesses are not doing the trump desire of 100% made in the USA.. and if they did it wont take the time paxmao exaggerates and project fears over..  nor have i suggested they should nor have i hinted i support 100% made in america

i have not been supporting trumps mission, instead i have been correcting the misinformation of lame media which paxmao relies on

instead most businesses are going for the final assembly process done in america using cheaper parts from multiple destinations instead of just china.
this business model has many benefits for everyone.

oh and if you think im talking trumps words
realise this forum holds posts where i talk about assembly in us using parts that are not solely from china but done by decentralising and diversifying the supply chain
and if you need a quote
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/W2aVeU-giz4