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June 11, 2025, 05:49:24 AM
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Gold is declining now with silver and platinum appreciating instead, gold has been top performer for a while now and will remain relatively near its ATH.   BTC rising makes more sense in that context, I would still say gold is doing great probably for years yet but not at the same rate of gain as rfecently or it would be in danger of becoming parabolic which can lead to a collapse from over-speculation something BTC does more often.


That depends, as demand for gold has skyrocketed in recent years and that demand is coming from central banks, not speculators.
In recent years, countries have gradually lost confidence in the USD, they are looking for alternatives to protect their economies, and gold is their top choice.

Gold prices will depend on the world situation, geopolitics and the more unstable the economy, the more gold benefits. The most trusted safe haven asset recognized worldwide.


Data from the World Gold Council shows that Poland was the biggest buyer of gold in the first quarter, purchasing 48.6 tonnes of gold, half the amount it will buy in all of 2024. Meanwhile, China has been continuously accumulating gold since 2022 until now. Demand for gold is higher than ever as geopolitical uncertainty increases.


https://tavexbullion.co.uk/whos-buying-gold-in-2025/

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June 11, 2025, 08:50:09 AM
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ETFs still remain one of the best things that happened to Bitcoin. Among other things, it has helped in reassuring people that Bitcoin is a good asset to  make big investments in and your money will not be lost but will yield good return on imvestment.

More people will join the moving train, it's a matter of time. It is my believe that we are going into the era in which countries will be keeping their reserve in bitcoin as they do with gold now.
It is true that ETFs has helped tremendously to increase investors trust in Bitcoin, before then it was not everybody that keyed into noncustodial holdings. Institutions are getting in and countries are gearing up to follow in their footsteps, I don't believe that in the near future many people that are not getting in now will regret like some of us who didn't get in during it's early years. Bitcoin has beat the expectations of many that didn't believe it will achieve the height where it is today, it has proven that it has the potentials to make many people rich in the future.

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June 11, 2025, 09:02:09 PM
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I don’t think anyone really expected the ETFs to be as popular as they were when they went live. It will be interesting to see how they handle a bear market and if they help keep it up or magnify a crash.

The success of the ETFs even made me jump into Blackrock stock for those sweet fund management fees.

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June 12, 2025, 03:34:54 AM
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ETFs still remain one of the best things that happened to Bitcoin. Among other things, it has helped in reassuring people that Bitcoin is a good asset to  make big investments in and your money will not be lost but will yield good return on imvestment.

More people will join the moving train, it's a matter of time. It is my believe that we are going into the era in which countries will be keeping their reserve in bitcoin as they do with gold now.
It is true that ETFs has helped tremendously to increase investors trust in Bitcoin, before then it was not everybody that keyed into noncustodial holdings. Institutions are getting in and countries are gearing up to follow in their footsteps, I don't believe that in the near future many people that are not getting in now will regret like some of us who didn't get in during it's early years. Bitcoin has beat the expectations of many that didn't believe it will achieve the height where it is today, it has proven that it has the potentials to make many people rich in the future.
ETF was a success to capture people who are conservative with their investment, only trusting the legitimate thing and to get big fund manager to invest in bitcoin in a legitimate way and more convenient.
It's a sign as well that the market need a high risk high return investment like bitcoin to come into play. Basically an alternative for people who don't want to venture outside traditional finance, even more so doing self custody, since there's regulation where institutional should put their BTC in custody of a legitimate 3rd party.

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June 12, 2025, 07:51:00 AM
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ETF was a success to capture people who are conservative with their investment, only trusting the legitimate thing and to get big fund manager to invest in bitcoin in a legitimate way and more convenient.
It's a sign as well that the market need a high risk high return investment like bitcoin to come into play. Basically an alternative for people who don't want to venture outside traditional finance, even more so doing self custody, since there's regulation where institutional should put their BTC in custody of a legitimate 3rd party.

To be fair, ETFs have indeed contributed greatly to making bitcoin more popular and gaining more trust from the global financial community. Or it makes bitcoin more accessible to more people than having to use non-custodial wallets.

But ETFs also make bitcoin more centralized, significantly undermining interest in decentralization and privacy. When it comes to bitcoin these days, not many people talk about decentralization, the main factor that helped bitcoin get to where it is today. That is why many people have mixed feelings about ETF approval as it is both a benefit and a disadvantage.

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June 12, 2025, 04:01:12 PM
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When it comes to Bitcoin, this is why I don't joke with it, because it has every tendencies of making you realize the desired profits from anything that relates to its investments, but this time around, it's not about bitcoin investment, instead the bitcoin spot ETF which has proven to be more profitable with more inflow than gold of recent.

If Bitcoin ETF could be this increasing  with inflows than gold in a couple of days, don't you think bitcoin investors would have been more profitable for holding over a long time if we consider it's market volume and cap.

If you're not investing and holding, then ask yourself what else are you doing, because bitcoin is a profitable asset than many other assets some are investing in.

If I recall correctly, last May ~$5.23 billion inflows were spotted on Bitcoin-backed ETFs & public companies altogether. flip side, we have seen $1.58 billion outflows on gold backed ETF. You know, BlackRock surpassed SPDR's $6.5 billion GLD shares & single-handedly pulled ~$7 billion on spot bitcoin ETF this year.

So gradually gold funds are flowing out & investors are trusting and shifting to bitcoin. Also, institutional stock is shifting from our traditional safe haven to Digital Bitcoin Safe Haven. I'm not something like emotional hodlar, dude. Yes, we may not see $1 million within tomorrow or next week, but keep in mind, if this trend of investors moving from gold to bitcoin holds, then it is not far way bitcoin's adoption and volume will increase worldwide into investment-grade territory.

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June 12, 2025, 04:40:09 PM
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When it comes to Bitcoin, this is why I don't joke with it, because it has every tendencies of making you realize the desired profits from anything that relates to its investments, but this time around, it's not about bitcoin investment, instead the bitcoin spot ETF which has proven to be more profitable with more inflow than gold of recent.

If Bitcoin ETF could be this increasing  with inflows than gold in a couple of days, don't you think bitcoin investors would have been more profitable for holding over a long time if we consider it's market volume and cap.

If you're not investing and holding, then ask yourself what else are you doing, because bitcoin is a profitable asset than many other assets some are investing in.

If I recall correctly, last May ~$5.23 billion inflows were spotted on Bitcoin-backed ETFs & public companies altogether. flip side, we have seen $1.58 billion outflows on gold backed ETF. You know, BlackRock surpassed SPDR's $6.5 billion GLD shares & single-handedly pulled ~$7 billion on spot bitcoin ETF this year.

So gradually gold funds are flowing out & investors are trusting and shifting to bitcoin. Also, institutional stock is shifting from our traditional safe haven to Digital Bitcoin Safe Haven. I'm not something like emotional hodlar, dude. Yes, we may not see $1 million within tomorrow or next week, but keep in mind, if this trend of investors moving from gold to bitcoin holds, then it is not far way bitcoin's adoption and volume will increase worldwide into investment-grade territory.

I think we are spotting on the possibilities of these already, starting from the profitability of bitcoin in the digital asset investments, the markets performance, it adoption as national reserve and so many other applicable areas where bitcoin influences and make a change, this is indeed becoming more obvious that bitcoin is taking lead and there is no resistance to how it could advance from now on, maybe we are just getting more closer to it, because soon, bitcoin is becoming the global unanimous payment mainstream without struggle, same way its investment as a profitable asset continues to gain ground over other existing assets.

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To be fair, ETFs have indeed contributed greatly to making bitcoin more popular and gaining more trust from the global financial community. Or it makes bitcoin more accessible to more people than having to use non-custodial wallets.

But ETFs also make bitcoin more centralized, significantly undermining interest in decentralization and privacy. When it comes to bitcoin these days, not many people talk about decentralization, the main factor that helped bitcoin get to where it is today. That is why many people have mixed feelings about ETF approval as it is both a benefit and a disadvantage.
To be fair, when people with billions want to invest, they are not going to open up a Binance account. Even normal people, people who want to invest 50k, may not want to. So what we are seeing here, is what we are getting.

ETF opened the door for any, who wants to invest into bitcoin itself, but not via the methods that we use, like getting an exchange or having a wallet. So they invested via firms like Blackrock and such, to have much better option and they feel they are more secure that way. They have done well enough, and should be happy with their decision. From the first day of ETF starting to today, we have seen bitcoin price rise exceptionally, so people who invested into ETF then, should be in big profit right now, a good decision.

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To be fair, when people with billions want to invest, they are not going to open up a Binance account. Even normal people, people who want to invest 50k, may not want to. So what we are seeing here, is what we are getting.
The bigger the money - the more careful they are. I agree that some whales with tens of millions to hundreds of millions of dollars will not use binance or other centralized exchanges - but there are always those who do. I think you can check the data on binance and it is not just for the low-end traders with $10 to $100. Some high-end investors who have hundreds or tens of millions of dollars use Binance when they want to buy.

ETF opened the door for any, who wants to invest into bitcoin itself, but not via the methods that we use, like getting an exchange or having a wallet. So they invested via firms like Blackrock and such, to have much better option and they feel they are more secure that way. They have done well enough, and should be happy with their decision. From the first day of ETF starting to today, we have seen bitcoin price rise exceptionally, so people who invested into ETF then, should be in big profit right now, a good decision.
Some will use spot ETFs - some will use centralized exchanges. It depends on the investor - even on binance you can create a corporate account instead of an individual account. Spot ETFs may be more reliable than centralized exchanges - but I don't discount the reputation of centralized exchanges as they also offer a number of advantages to their customers.

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June 12, 2025, 08:55:43 PM
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To be fair, ETFs have indeed contributed greatly to making bitcoin more popular and gaining more trust from the global financial community. Or it makes bitcoin more accessible to more people than having to use non-custodial wallets.

But ETFs also make bitcoin more centralized, significantly undermining interest in decentralization and privacy. When it comes to bitcoin these days, not many people talk about decentralization, the main factor that helped bitcoin get to where it is today. That is why many people have mixed feelings about ETF approval as it is both a benefit and a disadvantage.
To be fair, when people with billions want to invest, they are not going to open up a Binance account. Even normal people, people who want to invest 50k, may not want to. So what we are seeing here, is what we are getting.
I am pretty sure some of the millionaires are perfectly capable of opening up an exchange or a wallet themselves to store their bitcoins there especially millionaires who are very tech savvy. But some millionaires, old ones most likely will have an advisor and will tell them to invest in bitcoin but if they do not feel capable of securing their own coins they go to ETF companies instead.

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Gold is declining now with silver and platinum appreciating instead, gold has been a top performer from before covid upto now and I think will remain relatively near its ATH.
   BTC rising makes more sense in that context, I would still say gold is doing great probably for years yet but not at the same rate of gain as recently or it would be in danger of becoming parabolic which can lead to a collapse from over-speculation something BTC does more often.

Agreed. gold staying near ATH while cooling off makes perfect sense after such a strong multi-year run.

BTC, on the other hand, tends to follow more aggressive cycles. Its volatility cuts both ways like faster gains, but sharper corrections. Gold remains the steadier long-term hedge, while BTC plays the high-risk/high-reward role in the macro picture. Both have their place, depending on your strategy.
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ETF opened the door for any, who wants to invest into bitcoin itself, but not via the methods that we use, like getting an exchange or having a wallet. So they invested via firms like Blackrock and such, to have much better option and they feel they are more secure that way.

What people are investing with these third party institutions are not bitcoin directly, but they are stocks and shares in which their values are dependent on the bitcoin market price, so if bitcoin rises, they also rise along and the same way if it falls, they all fall together, that is why they are spot bitcoin ETF and not bitcoin investment with any organization.

They have done well enough, and should be happy with their decision. From the first day of ETF starting to today, we have seen bitcoin price rise exceptionally, so people who invested into ETF then, should be in big profit right now, a good decision.

That's true, bitcoin has been performing more better with the influence of bitcoin spot ETF, this is possible because it signifies an increase in the use case of bitcoin where necessarily applicable, al about these news lead to the widespread of bitcoin in other financial sectors and they begin to see it as what they can use to experience their desired financial change in the economy, that is why we could see the improvements showing from how bitcoin reserves is being approved by government and other established organizations.

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