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August 21, 2025, 07:15:23 AM
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For Putin to honor Trump's visit to Alaska, that means the deal will lead to a positive outcome. Putin and Trump wouldn't meet over nothing meaningful without a good outcome. We saw the way Trump invited Zelensky to the white house just to bash him to draw Putin's attention. I think that paid out for Trump to win Putin over because if it were Biden, Putin wouldn't honor his visitation, the war between Ukraine and Russia would be escalating. But with this meeting, we look forward to complete ceasefire between Russia and Ukraine

Zelensky is still seen as a boy in the game of international politics and what many are saying is he's capitalising on the men behind the scenes who are using him as a stooge to achieve whatever their motives are. Zelensky is not really a seasoned politician but a smart young man who used what he have which was popularity at a time to get what he wanted which was power. Because he's not a seasoned politician, he might not know the best way to hand issues deplomatically and bring a lasting solutions to a country that brought all its supports and voters to bring him to power.

This is why I feel even Donald Trump was bold enough to put him on a hot seat and to subsequently embarrass him in front of the press and spoke to him anyhow without much courtesy. Anyone who was expecting Trump to act the same way to Mr. Putin is only thinking of the impossible because the president of Russia is a seasoned politician and military man who's known as one of the most powerful leader in the world. Trump won't try to do anything disrespectful towards him.

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August 21, 2025, 07:39:30 AM
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Trump has looked at history. He has seen that since before the Bolshevik Revolution, the West was trying to take over Russia for their land.

Stalin made Russia strong even if he did it in some really bad ways.

In 1991 Russia broke up the USSR to give the people freedom, in return for no further movements of the West towards Russia. Ukraine is the West breaking those agreements.

The Alaska meeting was a method for Putin to show Trump that he wants peace, but is not joking about will happen if there is further movement against Russia from the West.

The reason why Trump likes Putin is, Putin is laying it right out in the open. This is something that the western banking systems are not doing.

Western Europe and the banking systems are moving ahead with Bolshevik-Revolution-like activities to steal Russia from the Russians and take over the world.

The meeting clarified this for Trump (he had to fight them in and out of government), and he finally realizes that Russia and America are on the same page.



Got inflation where you live in the West? It's your banking system trying to conquer you that is doing it... attempting to take over the world. Wanna send more money to Ukraine but Trump is stopping you? Take out all the loans from banks that you can, because loans are creations of new money, much of which winds up in the hands of Zelensky through the Federal Reserve Bank owners.


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August 21, 2025, 10:09:16 AM
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If your president had what he doesn't really have, then he would end the war in 24 hours, as he promised.
Better still, let him go to Moscow and broker the peace deal and end the war. Let him also call out Benjamin Netanyahu and his pack of murders right away, stop supporting them and sanctions them as soon as possible. Now that will be a BDE move, not just selectively picking some show of aircraft in his own State  Grin

He will meet with the black devil himself if it is in his interest, because he is simply a man who sees everything through business - and Ukraine is just business for him and a man whom he values ​​immensely, regardless of the fact that the majority of the civilized world already puts him in the same category as Hitler, Milosevic, Stalin and similar inhumans.

A man who extends his hand to such a non-man cannot even be a man himself - not to mention the genocide that Israel is carrying out in Gaza with the full support of the same US president who thinks he already deserves the Nobel Peace Prize.

But after they bought the Nobel Prize to Obama, it wouldn't be surprising if they secure it for another president - who knows, maybe they have some kind of subscription to the Nobel Prizes - money can buy anything except that I will never again believe that honest people sit on the Nobel committee.

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August 21, 2025, 09:57:14 PM
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He will meet with the black devil himself if it is in his interest, because he is simply a man who sees everything through business - and Ukraine is just business for him and a man whom he values ​​immensely, regardless of the fact that the majority of the civilized world already puts him in the same category as Hitler, Milosevic, Stalin and similar inhumans.
All those wars are actually business if you indeed critically look into them especially that one in Palestine.
There is a lot of money exchanging hands over those arms deals and the Aid that is now controlled by Israel instead of the Humanitarian organizations

Documentaries like this have a lot of truths in them: How the military-industrial complex captured US democracy | Business of War

But after they bought the Nobel Prize to Obama, it wouldn't be surprising if they secure it for another president - who knows, maybe they have some kind of subscription to the Nobel Prizes - money can buy anything except that I will never again believe that honest people sit on the Nobel committee.
Fuck the Nobel Prizes, they mean nothing to the oppressed and starving civilians.

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August 29, 2025, 06:30:03 AM
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The meeting between Trump and Putin seems to me to be a very important event, but I don't know how much the relationship between America and Russia will improve because of this meeting. I have seen many such meetings before with different enemies or superpower countries. The results of this have never been good. For the past few years, Ukraine and Russia have been at war. America has directly helped and supported them with weapons and money. Now, Putin and Donald Trump have met again. Maybe the war has stopped. But what I think is that America always goes to one country to save its own interests by starting a war with another country or by starting a riot. If they cannot directly suppress a superpower country, they create trouble in that country through other countries. As I have seen, America may not have gained much from the war in Russia and Ukraine. That is why Trump is thinking of meeting with Putin to establish a new relationship.
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August 29, 2025, 07:34:09 AM
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This is very hilarious I can't stop laughing and if this is the perception that other world leaders have about Trump, then it's quite unfortunate. It means that other people's opinions don't count and what is the need of calling for a meeting when he has already decided by himself what he intends to do. I don't quite think that Trump, is like that, he probably puts the interest of America, first in any peace or economic meetings with foreign leaders. My concern regarding the series of meetings regarding this Ukraine, war is on the ordinary citizens that are suffering. i hope to see a meeting that can truly bring the war to an end.











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August 29, 2025, 03:50:05 PM
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Trump has looked at history. He has seen that since before the Bolshevik Revolution, the West was trying to take over Russia for their land.

The revolution was due to WW I in which Germany + othes invaded Ruzzia. The rest of the "west" were allies of Ruzzia.

Stalin made Russia strong even if he did it in some really bad ways.

In 1991 Russia broke up the USSR to give the people freedom, in return for no further movements of the West towards Russia. Ukraine is the West breaking those agreements.

Gorvachov broke partially the USSR because they collapsed economically. It was not a "deal", it was a collapse.


The Alaska meeting was a method for Putin to show Trump that he wants peace, but is not joking about will happen if there is further movement against Russia from the West.


The Alaska meeting has resulted in better arming and less restrictions for Ukraine. Other than that, it achieved nothing.


The reason why Trump likes Putin is, Putin is laying it right out in the open. This is something that the western banking systems are not doing.

Western Europe and the banking systems are moving ahead with Bolshevik-Revolution-like activities to steal Russia from the Russians and take over the world.


The revolution changed the Tzars for the Politburo. Ruzzia kept being Ruzzia and even expanded later in WW II and the invasion of Findland by Ruzzia (you probably have forgotten, the Finns have not).

Got inflation where you live in the West? It's your banking system trying to conquer you that is doing it... attempting to take over the world. Wanna send more money to Ukraine but Trump is stopping you? Take out all the loans from banks that you can, because loans are creations of new money, much of which winds up in the hands of Zelensky through the Federal Reserve Bank owners.


You got bitcoin for all that.
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August 30, 2025, 08:33:41 PM
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The meeting between Trump and Putin seems to me to be a very important event, but I don't know how much the relationship between America and Russia will improve because of this meeting. I have seen many such meetings before with different enemies or superpower countries. The results of this have never been good. For the past few years, Ukraine and Russia have been at war. America has directly helped and supported them with weapons and money. Now, Putin and Donald Trump have met again. Maybe the war has stopped. But what I think is that America always goes to one country to save its own interests by starting a war with another country or by starting a riot. If they cannot directly suppress a superpower country, they create trouble in that country through other countries. As I have seen, America may not have gained much from the war in Russia and Ukraine. That is why Trump is thinking of meeting with Putin to establish a new relationship.
Let's just get back a few years in time, when Trump made that "historic" meet up with Kim Jong-un. Did it stop North Korea from producing nuclear weapons? No it didn't.

People tend to forget so fast, but this is the same old bullshit we are going through again, and it certainly involves some PR show or some dick measuring contests. The world is evolving real fast and more nations are realizing that the US and most of the West are not as peaceful as they claim to be.

So most of the rest of the world wants out, away from the western control and propaganda.

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