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August 20, 2025, 06:59:14 AM
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Disclaimer: I don't use mobile apps as wallet software, only PC, but I can feel your frustration.
I am not a fan of them either, especially not for hot wallet use. But there have been situations where I needed one. I also use Blue Wallet as one of my companion apps for my Jade airgapped hardware wallet. I initially installed it over the Play Store but I know there are alternative ways to download it (like GitHub) if one day it completely disappears from the Store. I also use MetaMask on my Android when I need to have stablecoins on the go.

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August 20, 2025, 07:29:27 AM
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Disclaimer: I don't use mobile apps as wallet software, only PC, but I can feel your frustration.
I am not a fan of them either, especially not for hot wallet use. But there have been situations where I needed one. I also use Blue Wallet as one of my companion apps for my Jade airgapped hardware wallet. I initially installed it over the Play Store but I know there are alternative ways to download it (like GitHub) if one day it completely disappears from the Store. I also use MetaMask on my Android when I need to have stablecoins on the go.

Yeah I am not really trying to imply that it’s bad, just that people around here have solid knowledge in order to avoid possible scams etc.

And to be absolutely honest I have used BW as well only for watch-only my multisig vault.

Plus if I ever needed to do frequent transactions via LN I would have an LN wallet like Phoenix.

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August 20, 2025, 08:03:03 AM
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Did Google don't know that when it comes to the Internet, they can download anything they want from the source? They don't have to use Google Play if they prohibit it. We can go to the wallet website and download it directly from their site.

I guess Google has been force by the regulator doing that. They don't like people using the non-custodial wallet apps because they don't know who their customers are. The regulator make a deal with the wallet developer to add something to the wallet so the regulator knows the customer.

The government wants to controlling the privacy but they don't tells it transparently. They will say that what they do now will be part of privacy, but it is not.

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August 21, 2025, 01:12:53 PM
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From what I understood, this is a plan of the US government. Because if this process becomes successful, they will be able to regulate and control all users. That is why the government and big companies want to track these things. When these things come under their control, then all users’ privacy will decrease. And people will be forced to use custodial wallets. The reason is that they will have both control and profit in their hands.

So if we are not careful now, when this process is fully completed, there will be no way left. For this, I think we should focus more on alternative app stores and open-source wallets.
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August 21, 2025, 07:18:44 PM
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Does the non custodial wallets need google to exist or survive? Those wallets operate and working without the use of Google and they have their own websites and apps so if google thought they can stop those wallets then they are just wasting their time. It would have been better if they focus on their search engine business and not fighting to stop unrealistic battle.
They are fighting to stop those wallets so that users of bitcoin will navigate to custodial wallets. I strongly believe that this fight is sponsored by custodial wallets company and the government executing it.

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August 21, 2025, 07:36:40 PM
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I don't know why the thread title says "Google declares war on...", really Google has nothing to do with that but it's the government that demands that it not publish them at least those that are not licensed, in this case Google only avoids having legal conflicts, but I don't know to what extent this is a problem, for example I trust more in downloading from the wallet page, than from the Playstore itself, which is widely known that malicious people have been able to sneak into the store apk intended for scam in general.

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August 22, 2025, 06:44:39 AM
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I appreciate everyones concern and, to be honest, it sounds bad, but seriously... calm down! It's not going to be the end of the world, even if they do it.

Allow me to elaborate:

The huge majority of people, don't do self-custody anyways, they either buy and keep in CEXs or they buy ETFs. So, this leaves a minority (the rest of us) who seriously care about bitcoin's true intention and do self-custody. But, we 're not like the rest of the world, we will find our workaround.

I think you miss the point. The point is not whether we can get alternatives. There will always be alternatives to things like this. I don't think I've ever downloaded a wallet from Play Store, and I use an android device. The point is, this is how it starts. It starts with very small and relatively insignificant things. They start like this and give one excuse, like "it's been used for fraud and other illegal activities", and later on, it will be more significant stuff like making it compulsory to have your bitcoin and other crypto in a CEX.
If it truly has no significance whatsoever and we have nothing to worry about, then they wouldn't have done it. However, the fact that a company as big as Google is willing to dissatisfy a section of its customers this way suggests that it has significance.

What even makes it funnier is that they always make it seem like they have the best interests of the public at heart, when in reality, they just don't care. This way, it makes it easy to gaslight people who don't buy the bullshit. For example, when they make it seem like criminals use non-custodial wallets, then you, who oppose them or use non-custodial wallets, are criminals, after all, "if you have nothing to hide, why are you scared?".

You don't expect big companies to come out and say, "We want your personal data so we can use it however we want" They will tell you they use it to prevent crimes like child pornography, fraud, money laundering, etc and then go ahead to assure you that your privacy is safe. If you kick against that, it's easier to gaslight you and make it seem like you're hiding something illegal. In the end, they always seem like the good guys.

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August 23, 2025, 04:37:13 AM
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If you are downloading things from some Google curated app thing you are already doing it wrong since you are not even checking checksums of the downloaded files with what the author provided, let alone pgp encryption verification measures.
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