Will Litecoin finally outperform Bitcoin in percentage gains?

[pooya87]

Yes, what you say is not wrong with what happened but the bull season is not over yet. So it is still too early to conclude that ETH will underperform and not provide better returns than bitcoin.

Long term wise it is even more telling when we look at altcoin prices against bitcoin. For example in this case ETH used to be 0.15BTC back in 2017 ATH and today it is worth 0.04BTC.

It can be said that the ETH cycle will explode soon and we need to wait until the bull season ends. We will know whether ETH or BTC will perform better.

Apart from the fact that ETH is a useless shitcoin only used to create token scams, it also has an unlimited supply that guarantees that it underperforms compared to bitcoin.

[Charles-Tim]

ETH is really just getting started as BTC.D starts to drop, from 65% to 57% and it is only a matter of time before it continues to drop below 50%. Additionally, a more reliable indicator of market flows is gradually shifting towards ETH as the ETH ETF has consistently outperformed the BTC ETF for nearly a month. 

It can be said that the ETH cycle will explode soon and we need to wait until the bull season ends. We will know whether ETH or BTC will perform better.

Let us see what will happen but I doubt that ethereum will explode in price but only short period of time is needed for us to know. What I think is that ethereum is not having a small marketcap at all and you people should not think that ethereum will increase in price like before. According to my own analyses, ethereum will not perform better in this cycle if compared with bitcoin. Also in the future, ethereum will perform less better if compared with bitcoin.

[BitGoba]

Apart from the fact that ETH is a useless shitcoin only used to create token scams, it also has an unlimited supply that guarantees that it underperforms compared to bitcoin.

Yes, you are right, ETH is a big scam. ETH was created just so that the founders and insiders could make money off naive retail investors.  The founders and insiders reserved 72 million ETH for themselves before the launch, even though the total supply was supposed to be fixed at 100 million. However, the founders changed that.I think they’ve changed the supply policy 7 or 8 times so far, which just shows how centralized Ethereum is and that a few people make all the decisions.

You can never be sure what the founders will decide to do.Currently, the inflation is around 2,600 ETH being created every day, which amounts to about 76,000 ETH per month, or less than 1 million per year.

My advice stick to Bitcoin for the long term. Be very careful with altcoins. You can trade them temporarily to increase your Bitcoin holdings, but be cautious with these pump-and-dump schemes.

[fikrett]

Litecoin often follows Bitcoin but with higher volatility. Can it deliver higher ROI this time? Or Litecoin is also a saturated coin because of already having very big market cap.

Hardly see that play out. Litecoin is among the oldest altcoin but if people were to choose a blockchain that doesn't have smart contract feature or any other gimmicks, they'd go to bitcoin because it's the new gold.

Litecoin on the other hand most likely gonna stagnate, but it's just my opinion and can be wrong. Doge got the meme coin narrative going, ethereum got the smart contract with defis, etc locking TVL at the billions.
Meanwhile litecoin is just for remittance at best. So i can't really find the proper reasoning as to why it should climb in price.

Where there is gold, there is also silver, and I think LTC will show up one day to keep its spotlight, but as for now, it's not talked that much in the space, nor it is seen to spike up in price or gain relevance that much.

Time will tell.

[BitGoba]

Litecoin often follows Bitcoin but with higher volatility. Can it deliver higher ROI this time? Or Litecoin is also a saturated coin because of already having very big market cap.

Hardly see that play out. Litecoin is among the oldest altcoin but if people were to choose a blockchain that doesn't have smart contract feature or any other gimmicks, they'd go to bitcoin because it's the new gold.

Litecoin on the other hand most likely gonna stagnate, but it's just my opinion and can be wrong. Doge got the meme coin narrative going, ethereum got the smart contract with defis, etc locking TVL at the billions.
Meanwhile litecoin is just for remittance at best. So i can't really find the proper reasoning as to why it should climb in price.

Where there is gold, there is also silver, and I think LTC will show up one day to keep its spotlight, but as for now, it's not talked that much in the space, nor it is seen to spike up in price or gain relevance that much.

Time will tell.

In the world of money, the hardest form always wins. There can’t be two, because all monetary premium eventually flows into the hardest form of money. Today, silver has no monetary premium it’s just industrial metal. All monetary premium resides in gold.Over time, the monetary premium from gold and other goods that people commonly use as money,for example, real estate, which is often used as money for savings,will flow into Bitcoin, because it is the hardest form of money that exists. Therefore, it is much wiser to convert all of it into Bitcoin right away LTC and other altcoins have no monetary significance and do not meet the characteristics needed to attract monetary premium like Bitcoin. LTC and altcoins are mostly pump-and-dump schemes, so be careful and convert them to Bitcoin as soon as possible.

[Iamgoat]

ETH is really just getting started as BTC.D starts to drop, from 65% to 57% and it is only a matter of time before it continues to drop below 50%. Additionally, a more reliable indicator of market flows is gradually shifting towards ETH as the ETH ETF has consistently outperformed the BTC ETF for nearly a month. 

It can be said that the ETH cycle will explode soon and we need to wait until the bull season ends. We will know whether ETH or BTC will perform better.

Let us see what will happen but I doubt that ethereum will explode in price but only short period of time is needed for us to know. What I think is that ethereum is not having a small marketcap at all and you people should not think that ethereum will increase in price like before. According to my own analyses, ethereum will not perform better in this cycle if compared with bitcoin. Also in the future, ethereum will perform less better if compared with bitcoin.

You're correct in your submission about ethereum's non explosion. Ethereum is not going explored and the reason why I said so is not far fetched. It is from the law of large numbers which says the larger an asset gets, the harder it is for such asset to experience explosions. You see we can also say this is the reason why smaller assets like some memecoins do skyrocket in prices but still comes down later. I consider ETH as a mega cap already which makes it more difficult for a 5x or 20x to occur over a short period of time and it will continue to be harder as time progresses. One advantage bitcoin has over ETH, which will Always put bitcoin ahead of the ETH is BTC leads early in a cycle because it is considered the safest crypto to invest in and because of this, bitcoin will always outperform ETH.

[d5000]

Nowadays, it takes a coin with a smart contract, fast transactions and cheap transaction fees, among other features in order for those coins to catch the attention and money from investors.

I think the "nowadays" you are describing here is the "nowadays" of 2017-22 or so. The "wave" that ended probably with the Solana pump in 2024.

Since then there have not really been changes in the upper part of the rankings (say top-30/40). The "novelty factor" for altcoins, in particular those which are smart contract platforms, is largely gone. And that's the point where Litecoin could again become interesting, for the following reasons:

- as an established coin with a quite good presence in the payment market
- as the strongest PoW coin after Bitcoin (the merged mining symbiosis with Doge works well and make it more secure than Monero)
- as one of the most decentralized coins of the top-100, after BTC and Monero
- as one of the coins where an ETF could be launched potentially in the future
- as a coin which tends to explosive growth, the few times it pumps (say the spectacular 2021 pump from about $40 to $400).

But on the other hand, some of you are right: there is currently not really a narrative or sentiment which favours LTC. The small pumps we have seen have all stalled in the 125-135$ area.

I think thus this is a classic "can't really tell" or 50/50 situation. If there is another attack on the $135-40 mark and altcoins see another small "season", then it could not be impossible to see it approach its old ATHs, but it's still difficult. It may outperform BTC though.

[X-ray]

ETH is really just getting started as BTC.D starts to drop, from 65% to 57% and it is only a matter of time before it continues to drop below 50%. Additionally, a more reliable indicator of market flows is gradually shifting towards ETH as the ETH ETF has consistently outperformed the BTC ETF for nearly a month. 

It can be said that the ETH cycle will explode soon and we need to wait until the bull season ends. We will know whether ETH or BTC will perform better.

Let us see what will happen but I doubt that ethereum will explode in price but only short period of time is needed for us to know. What I think is that ethereum is not having a small marketcap at all and you people should not think that ethereum will increase in price like before. According to my own analyses, ethereum will not perform better in this cycle if compared with bitcoin. Also in the future, ethereum will perform less better if compared with bitcoin.

It entirely depends on whether the institutional trend of buying ethereum can keep up. If that keeps up, ETH price could explode. As much as how shitty the uncapped total supply that ethereum is having, a hyped up market can always have a rally and currently ethereum is hyped up for some reason that causes inflow to reach billions.

Crypto market is abstract, anything can happen even if the coin itself has uncapped supply, as long as the buy demand is huge. Although I don't deny that BTC is miles above ethereum in term of quality.

[arhipova]

Short term or long term?

It is obvious that nothing can compete with bitcoin in the long term simply because none of them have any true potential or anything new to offer that is useful in the real world that can get them the adoption they need to truly grow.
This is evident from the past 16 years and tens of thousands of altcoins that have been created, many of which already dead.

In short term things are different. For example you may find a 24-hour period or longer where any shitcoin gets pumped big time and "outperforms" bitcoin! That is the natural course of the altcoin market. But that is just pump and dumps and for risk takers.
Another thing to consider for old altcoins is that their "pumpability" decreases over time. Because people get bored of them and also because the number of bag-holders increase over time. Therefore each time they get pumped, there will exist a larger number of bag-holders who will sell and dump the price sooner. This means a coin like LTC will have a much harder time to get pumped even in short term to "outperform" bitcoin...

I do agree with points you raise. Like it is hard for other coins to compete with bitcoin in 5-10 year frame.

When we see 24-hours period, there are many new coins doing better than bitcoin. But I will avoid them because we cannot predict which altcoins will follow this pattern.

Let us say, if we are looking for a time frame of 6 months to 1 year from now, is it possible for litecoin to leave behind bitcoin ?

[NotATether]

No.

That is not happening any time soon.

Check the LTCBTC graph and you'll see what I mean.

[Ruttoshi]

ETH is really just getting started as BTC.D starts to drop, from 65% to 57% and it is only a matter of time before it continues to drop below 50%. Additionally, a more reliable indicator of market flows is gradually shifting towards ETH as the ETH ETF has consistently outperformed the BTC ETF for nearly a month. 

It can be said that the ETH cycle will explode soon and we need to wait until the bull season ends. We will know whether ETH or BTC will perform better.

Let us see what will happen but I doubt that ethereum will explode in price but only short period of time is needed for us to know. What I think is that ethereum is not having a small marketcap at all and you people should not think that ethereum will increase in price like before. According to my own analyses, ethereum will not perform better in this cycle if compared with bitcoin. Also in the future, ethereum will perform less better if compared with bitcoin.

It entirely depends on whether the institutional trend of buying ethereum can keep up. If that keeps up, ETH price could explode. As much as how shitty the uncapped total supply that ethereum is having, a hyped up market can always have a rally and currently ethereum is hyped up for some reason that causes inflow to reach billions.

Crypto market is abstract, anything can happen even if the coin itself has uncapped supply, as long as the buy demand is huge. Although I don't deny that BTC is miles above ethereum in term of quality.

It's only new investors who feel bitcoin is expensive and want a cheaper coin that will think Etherum has a future because they don't understand the secrets behind it. Old Etherum investors wouldn't think of buying Etherum especially, those who bought in 2021 at its ATH.

As time passes on, people will continue to see and understand how shitty Etherum is and that will prevent more people from investing in it because nobody wants to tie their funds into an investment that isn't that profitable in the long run. Whoever brought bitcoin will always want to buy more whenever he can.

[arhipova]

No.

That is not happening any time soon.

Check the LTCBTC graph and you'll see what I mean.

I am not good at reading graphs but based on replies on my thread, I will also book profits with litecoin and shift to bitcoin now.

[Joy- maker]

As far as am concern only bitcoin and Ethereum can give ROI, although Ethereum is just getting started like bitcoin, but Litecoin no no, because Litecoin can't give ROI as it stands now, litecoin is a coin  that is not even sure of getting to new all time high anytime soon the coin is still struggling with price which I don't see any future in that coin anymore. The only two coins I see future in  are bitcoin the father of all cryptocurrency and Ethereum the coin following bitcoin another coin aside this two coins is still struggling.

[arhipova]

As far as am concern only bitcoin and Ethereum can give ROI, although Ethereum is just getting started like bitcoin, but Litecoin no no, because Litecoin can't give ROI as it stands now, litecoin is a coin  that is not even sure of getting to new all time high anytime soon the coin is still struggling with price which I don't see any future in that coin anymore. The only two coins I see future in  are bitcoin the father of all cryptocurrency and Ethereum the coin following bitcoin another coin aside this two coins is still struggling.

That is true for long term. In short term many coins beat bitcoin based on weekly or monthly returns .