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July 02, 2025, 11:32:59 AM
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Additional information has become available about Wallet of Satoshi's new non-custodial Lightning Network service and it has sparked a discussion whether it's non-custodial at all and to what degree. WOS will use Spark as its node operator, requiring a degree of trust in the operator. Spark is a statechain and not trustless. Allegedly, the statechain could collude with certain users to steal money if there are no honest operators.

The creator of Spark, Kevin Hurley disagrees with certain accusations. He says that Spark relies on a 1-of-n operators model that requires honestly at the moment of sending BTC over Lightning. Once that happens, no further malicious attempts can affect the money you sent.

You can follow the discussion here.

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July 06, 2025, 11:20:55 AM
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Additional information has become available about Wallet of Satoshi's new non-custodial Lightning Network service and it has sparked a discussion whether it's non-custodial at all and to what degree. WOS will use Spark as its node operator, requiring a degree of trust in the operator. Spark is a statechain and not trustless. Allegedly, the statechain could collude with certain users to steal money if there are no honest operators.

The creator of Spark, Kevin Hurley disagrees with certain accusations. He says that Spark relies on a 1-of-n operators model that requires honestly at the moment of sending BTC over Lightning. Once that happens, no further malicious attempts can affect the money you sent.

You can follow the discussion here.

Spark, is that some sort of BTC-to-Lightning exchanger like Boltz?

In that case, I can see how it is not decentralized.

Obviously you need to have a large open channel backed with a lot of (your) other BTC in order to have the capability of being able to send sats to  someone else's Lightning node.

And not only that, but regulators could also gate-keep the process at the "Received BTC; Now send sats" stage.

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July 06, 2025, 03:34:17 PM
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Spark, is that some sort of BTC-to-Lightning exchanger like Boltz?
I don't know much about Spark. It's a Bitcoin L2 network that runs through Spark operators. The argument against it is that it's not non-custodial like Phoenix Wallet for instance. But Spark claims that users have full control on their own. This sounds more like a promise to me than how the system actually works because it's not trustless and the operators can act fairly or maliciously. It's centralized, giving them the control to change the code and steal funds if they wanted to.

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October 07, 2025, 12:08:42 PM
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BTC Sessions has created a new Wallet of Satoshi review in which they covered both the custodial and non-custodial aspects of the software among other things. One interesting takeaway from the review is how to switch between those two modes. The default wallet behavior when you install it is to be custodial, but there is a button at the bottom of the settings that allows you to change that. Click "Switch to Self Custody", and you can create a self custody wallet.

The non-custodial option seems region specific. I don't have it on my end. If you are interested, check if you can see it in your wallet.



This is the link to the YouTube review if anyone wants to watch it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yQUhHdjNuc

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October 07, 2025, 12:31:41 PM
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The non-custodial option seems region specific. I don't have it on my end. If you are interested, check if you can see it in your wallet.
It would seem so, I don't see it either.
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October 08, 2025, 05:56:27 AM
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The non-custodial option seems region specific. I don't have it on my end. If you are interested, check if you can see it in your wallet.
No, it is not region specific. I sent an email to support@walletofsatoshi.com to inquire about this, because i couldn't also find the option in my own wallet, and this was their reply:



So i went ahead to update my wallet to the latest version in the App store, which is version 3.1.7 (330), and now i can see the option of 'switch to self custody' in my wallet. So i think you should also update your wallet to this latest version if you are interested in this option.

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October 08, 2025, 07:12:34 AM
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So i went ahead to update my wallet to the latest version in the App store, which is version 3.1.7 (330), and now i can see the option of 'switch to self custody' in my wallet. So i think you should also update your wallet to this latest version if you are interested in this option.
I downloaded the latest version from the Play Store yesterday just before I wrote the previous post, but the option wasn't there for me. I did it a second time after seeing your post, and now it seems to be working. Perhaps the Play Store pushed an older version to my phone or there was another reason why it was unavailable yesterday. When I installed WoS yesterday, I accessed the store on my laptop. I thought that could be the reason why I got an older version, but that seems to be working fine as well now.

Weird. What's important is that it works. Cheers!

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November 11, 2025, 08:02:43 AM
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Interesting initiative by the Wallet of Satoshi team right now. After Square merchants started accepting Bitcoin through their POS systems, the WoS team has decided to run a giveaway. If you use Wallet of Satoshi at a Square merchant to pay for your lunch, WoS will reimburse the cost of the meal. To receive the giveaway, you have to record a video that shows you paying with WoS at a Square merchant. The offer is valid for only 24 hours. WoS will reimburse up to 100 participants with valid videos and up to $100 per person.

https://x.com/walletofsatoshi/status/1988007727076094062

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