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Question: Should trust system spammers be banned?
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April 07, 2014, 06:21:41 PM
Last edit: April 07, 2014, 07:02:40 PM by fsb4000
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You can't tell these guys the difference of giving a single negative rating ever versus the 6 daily and these shills will likely be doing for another 3 to 4 months and maybe more.
You don't need leave 6 feedbacks daily....
Read  the terms of the contest carefully!
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April 08, 2014, 03:01:50 AM
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If everyone would have ethics and morals like my than the world would be without any crime or scam...

 Forgiving the fact that you are completely avoiding the questions, explain to me again how I am spamming by shining the light on Butterfly Labs supporters, like yourself, who are polluting the forum trust system in the name of some misguided "contest" ?

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April 08, 2014, 09:15:08 AM
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If everyone would have ethics and morals like my than the world would be without any crime or scam...

 Forgiving the fact that you are completely avoiding the questions, explain to me again how I am spamming by shining the light on Butterfly Labs supporters, like yourself, who are polluting the forum trust system in the name of some misguided "contest" ?


You're doing the same things like Butterfly Labs supporters.
You're lying about people just because you think that you are helping the forum.

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Anyone who says that I am bribed or scammer is a liar.


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April 08, 2014, 11:35:07 AM
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If everyone would have ethics and morals like my than the world would be without any crime or scam...

 Forgiving the fact that you are completely avoiding the questions, explain to me again how I am spamming by shining the light on Butterfly Labs supporters, like yourself, who are polluting the forum trust system in the name of some misguided "contest" ?


You're doing the same things like Butterfly Labs supporters.
You're lying about people just because you think that you are helping the forum.

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Anyone who says that I am bribed or scammer is a liar.




By taking part in their contest , you are being bribed.

You are giving fake trust , in return for a chance to win some BFL crap.

How is that not bribery ?

No longer active on bitcointalk, however, you can still reach me via PMs if needed.
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April 08, 2014, 12:05:47 PM
Last edit: April 08, 2014, 03:14:16 PM by fsb4000
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By taking part in their contest , you are being bribed.

You are giving fake trust , in return for a chance to win some BFL crap.

How is that not bribery ?
Can I have other reasons to participate in the contest ?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=559636.msg6108447#msg6108447

Prove that I'm bribed (if you can) Cheesy
Although I understand that to lie without the facts is much easier  Roll Eyes
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User	 Date	     Risked BTC amount	  Reference	Comments
jambola2 2014-04-08 999.00000000   none         Leaving fake feedback.
Can you remind me when we did the deal on the 999 BTC ??
Hahah
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April 08, 2014, 07:26:53 PM
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You're doing the same things like Butterfly Labs supporters.
You're lying about people just because you think that you are helping the forum.
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Anyone who says that I am bribed or scammer is a liar.

 ...yet you are being bribed with a chance to win a free Monarch ?

 How is that fact a lie ?

 Chances are, if that carrot was not being dangled in front of you, you would not be participating in this charade.
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April 08, 2014, 08:03:01 PM
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...yet you are being bribed with a chance to win a free Monarch ?

 How is that fact a lie ?

Chances are, if that carrot was not being dangled in front of you, you would not be participating in this charade.
I participate in the contest not because of the chance to win the monarch.
I have several reasons to participate in this.
Chance to win a free Monarch is only 1 reason, not main reason.
I can not say that I'm bribed.

So yes, everyone, who says that I'm bribed, is a liar.
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April 08, 2014, 08:15:06 PM
Last edit: April 08, 2014, 08:27:04 PM by Xian01
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charade.
I participate in the contest not because of the chance to win the monarch.
I have several reasons to participate in this.
Chance to win a free Monarch is only 1 reason, not main reason.
I can not say that I'm bribed.
So yes, everyone, who says that I'm bribed, is a liar.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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April 08, 2014, 08:50:06 PM
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Maybe I'm wrong, English is not my native language.

1. Chance to win a free Monarch is only 1 reason, not main reason.
2. I participate in the contest not because of the chance to win the monarch.

Is it a contradiction ?



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April 09, 2014, 01:16:57 AM
Last edit: April 10, 2014, 10:45:40 AM by Bicknellski
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Not sure if those Imperial Monarch units will even make it to market if these claims bare fruit BFL is in serious trouble. You are backing a company that defrauds people and your actions are ethically challenged. You admit to doing this in the BFL forums simply to win hardware. There is no argument you can make that absolves you of accepting a bribe. Bribery the act of giving money or a gift which alters the your behaviour. You never posted a SINGLE time about anyone of the 6 accounts you are posting on until you stipulated you wanted to "win" the Monarch and then participated. Your behaviour was changed by the contest. You posted only after you learned of the contest. You are done. Bribed. End of discussion.

What is really morally reprehensible is you are promoting a company that is claimed to do the following and there will definitely be a paper trail for this trust me. There are hundreds of people who were and are being injured by BFL and you are still supporting their efforts here. Why? Because you are being bribed to do so. Cheaply bribed with only the promise of a miner that is currently 14 months in development and for all accounts and purposes VAPORWARE. You have sold your integrity for a promise on nothing but air. Deceived so easily? Wow you might want to rethink your position you obviously are not unintelligent so that leaves morally and ethically impaired. Have a look at the people your positive trust are alleged to do.

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37. Defendant has utilized the funds from customer’s pre-payments for:

(a) the paid in full, unfinanced purchase of a residence in Leawood, Kansas for Mr. Sonny Vleisides;
(b) an automobile for Mr. Sonny Vleisides; and
(c) hundreds of thousands dollars in loans to shareholders of Defendant.

http://www.woodlaw.com/sites/default/files/casedocs/2014-04-04%20Complaint.pdf

I am sure more people will be joining in on this class action suit.

What will be interesting is if they can prove these claims which shouldn't be too hard given there are people who can probably testify to this practice:

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51. Nearly seven months after receiving payment, on November 1, 2013,
Defendant shipped mining equipment to Plaintiff Dylan Symington.

52. Plaintiff Dylan Symington never gave Defendant permission to use the
equipment he ordered to mine bitcoins for itself or for anyone else.

53. Between the time Plaintiff Dylan Symington pre-paid for his order of
mining equipment from Defendant in April of 2013 and the time he received mining
equipment from Defendant in November of 2013, numerous bitcoins had been mined by
others, and the difficulty of mining new bitcoins had substantially increased over such
time.

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April 16, 2014, 10:19:03 AM
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Well if people are abusing the trust system one thing to do would be giving them some type of negative rep for others to know that their credibility is in question to say the least and maybe some other form of reprimanding in conjunction would help remedy the issue.
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April 16, 2014, 07:39:47 PM
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question your ethics and morals.
If everyone would have ethics and morals like my than the world would be without any crime or scam...

dva-Putin, is that you?
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