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May 18, 2014, 07:08:10 PM
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How can you have a software program that is an organization that executes change in the real world?

Bitcoin foundation has lobbyists that physically walk places and speak things with actual mouths.

Write letters, etc.

Seems to me AI would be needed for this.  And robots.

Agree.  the whole thing sounds foolish.

The foundation also pays for Gavin Andresen's full time commitment to Bitcoin,
so it doesn't make sense from that point of view either.

its more to ensure that projects get completed.
EG instead of gavin being paid all year, where we may only see 1 update which includes:
-block files detected as a virus from 1991 (false negative)
-bitcoin-core makes it less user friendly to sign messages or re-use/view old addresses

instead gavin could post that he want to be paid 3BTC per month for 3 months (9btc) to incorporate feature XYZ features

another way is for lobbyists to not b paid all year to sit on their hands, but instad the lobbyist can post that he wants to be paid 2btc to cover costs of travel and hotel, and 1BTC for consulting of ZXY idea's at a government hearing or a conference.

nothing stops any entity from posting multiple bounties to ensure continal income. but it makes the whole ethos of bitcoin funding more targeted and goal orientated instead of guaranteed income without having to set goals, agenda's, targets.

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May 18, 2014, 07:25:45 PM
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Based on my experience I think it is highly unlikely that this initiative will lead to any tangible benefits. Software is not some magical item to solve all problems (assuming there are problems that really need to be solved). You can have good software without anyone using it.

I also think we don't need a replacement for The Bitcoin Foundation, because TBF was not needed in the first place. TBF should be disbanded and replaced by independent developers that can self-organize to collect funds for important development goals. For collecting funds they can just post their donation address - problem solved the bitcoin way.

Believing that problems arising out of governmental interference can be solved via negotiation are short-sighted and naive. We don't need lobbying for Bitcoin, we need strong bitcoin technology that is 100% apolitical and offers cash-like privacy, easy access, high fungibility and is resilient to governmental control ("regulation").

Imho the funds would be better spend by funding a Core developer.
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May 18, 2014, 07:43:34 PM
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How can you have a software program that is an organization that executes change in the real world?

Bitcoin foundation has lobbyists that physically walk places and speak things with actual mouths.

Write letters, etc.

Seems to me AI would be needed for this.  And robots.

Agree.  the whole thing sounds foolish.

The foundation also pays for Gavin Andresen's full time commitment to Bitcoin,
so it doesn't make sense from that point of view either.

its more to ensure that projects get completed.
EG instead of gavin being paid all year, where we may only see 1 update which includes:
-block files detected as a virus from 1991 (false negative)
-bitcoin-core makes it less user friendly to sign messages or re-use/view old addresses

instead gavin could post that he want to be paid 3BTC per month for 3 months (9btc) to incorporate feature XYZ features

another way is for lobbyists to not b paid all year to sit on their hands, but instad the lobbyist can post that he wants to be paid 2btc to cover costs of travel and hotel, and 1BTC for consulting of ZXY idea's at a government hearing or a conference.

nothing stops any entity from posting multiple bounties to ensure continal income. but it makes the whole ethos of bitcoin funding more targeted and goal orientated instead of guaranteed income without having to set goals, agenda's, targets.

the only issue I see with that, is it makes it harder for corporations in the space to fund things.
It's easier to just to sell them an annual subscription to be a gold member of the BF.

otherwise, they have to be solicited, then vote on whether to fund each project... and
additionally, they dont get the return of value of having that gold member badge.


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May 18, 2014, 08:37:22 PM
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Believing that problems arising out of governmental interference can be solved via negotiation are short-sighted and naive. We don't need lobbying for Bitcoin, we need strong bitcoin technology that is 100% apolitical and offers cash-like privacy, easy access, high fungibility and is resilient to governmental control ("regulation").


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May 19, 2014, 12:11:36 AM
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Believing that problems arising out of governmental interference can be solved via negotiation are short-sighted and naive. We don't need lobbying for Bitcoin, we need strong bitcoin technology that is 100% apolitical and offers cash-like privacy, easy access, high fungibility and is resilient to governmental control ("regulation").


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for bitcoin to interact with FIAT (buy and sell) you cant just pretend that you owning bitcoin means that you should avoid the owners of fiat (government)

if you want to amicably interact with fiat. then you have to amicably interact with government.

i agree that bitcoin is out PRIVATE property and out of the juristiction of governments. but by avoiding government you are avoiding the possibility of using fiat..

so lobbying is needed just to keep the peace and keep it all amicable.

lobbying not only keeps the peace to allow fiat-bitcoin trading. but also keps the peace in regards to making sure that governments do not step over their jurisdiction and try controlling what is not theirs

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May 19, 2014, 01:21:24 AM
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I already did this, I was going to create a pool that can help replace the functionality of the Bitcoin Foundation.

http://www.bitpools.com

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETCP8NeXasY

Honestly, if you can get bitpools to work like the video states, I imagine it'd be replacement enough. We can do decentralized crowd-funding of public relations, IMHO. We don't need a foundation to represent us directly.
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May 19, 2014, 02:32:19 AM
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The idea is excellent. Especially the ability to hire lobbyists. The wolves are all ready there in the form of mastercard lobbyists so this will have to happen quickly.

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May 19, 2014, 07:19:04 AM
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How can you have a software program that is an organization that executes change in the real world?

Bitcoin foundation has lobbyists that physically walk places and speak things with actual mouths.

Write letters, etc.

Seems to me AI would be needed for this.  And robots.

Agree.  the whole thing sounds foolish.

The foundation also pays for Gavin Andresen's full time commitment to Bitcoin,
so it doesn't make sense from that point of view either.

I guess I thought that the "bounty" here was sort of sarcastic.  Does the OP really want a software program to replace the function of the bitcoin foundation or was that just a "clever" way to present the complaints about the foundation?  I thought the latter.
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May 19, 2014, 10:45:48 AM
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for bitcoin to interact with FIAT (buy and sell) you cant just pretend that you owning bitcoin means that you should avoid the owners of fiat (government)

if you want to amicably interact with fiat. then you have to amicably interact with government.

i agree that bitcoin is out PRIVATE property and out of the juristiction of governments. but by avoiding government you are avoiding the possibility of using fiat..

so lobbying is needed just to keep the peace and keep it all amicable.

lobbying not only keeps the peace to allow fiat-bitcoin trading. but also keps the peace in regards to making sure that governments do not step over their jurisdiction and try controlling what is not theirs

You can have working amicable agreements among parties of equivalent power...

The government will keep the peace as long as none of its interests is at stake (main interest: stay in power). Negotiating with government for allowing fiat-bitcoin trading is like a slave negotiating with his owner for a more humane work schedule.

You will gain nothing from lobbying for bitcoin.

Bitcoin is superior money. It will push governmental fiat aside. Governments will not like this, because it is an important source of power. Conflict can only be avoided by destroying bitcoin through allowing full "regulation". Then bitcoin will be exactly like fiat.
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