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May 16, 2014, 03:54:26 PM
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It seems like you have a very judgmental stand against the US government. For a more concrete example of what communism truely is, look up stalin or mao.
Thank you, I'm sure I know what communism is, I've lived in a communist country. You don't have to be a dictator or a murderer, like the ones you mentioned, to be red.


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May 18, 2014, 11:19:01 AM
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She's actually the wife of the President of The United States, Barack Obama.

so... seeing the clip, people don't like her, right?
what has she done that's so bad?

double standards, and as explained in the video, she is not so outraged by the action of her husband gouverment, when it comes to drones strikes in foreign countries and illegal wars and calling it just a PR stunt (since it isn't honest)

It would be quite spectactular if she actually expressed publicly that she is against killing innocent people with drones. As  mother, and as a fairly(?) intelligent human being, I'm sure she can understand the grief and trouble of those families, men, women and children who has lost any family member to a drone strike.

Now, if she opposed this practise in public, she would be 'disloyal' and 'antiamerican', but she could not be punished and put in jail or sent to some camp because she was the president's wife. Most likely, she would just have her right to public speech revoked, and then being guarded quite closely and having her right to express herself being limited.

It would also be quite shameful for the president, and the US. So, to keep her privileged position, she can't really say anything about it, even if she don't like it.

Some people can kiss their kids goodnight at night knowing that a lot of others have no kids to kiss goodnight. As long as it does not affect themselves... When something happens fair away, let's just call it bugsplatter and let's pretend it's not happening, and then we can all keep being happy...
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May 18, 2014, 05:36:42 PM
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She's actually the wife of the President of The United States, Barack Obama.

so... seeing the clip, people don't like her, right?
what has she done that's so bad?

double standards, and as explained in the video, she is not so outraged by the action of her husband gouverment, when it comes to drones strikes in foreign countries and illegal wars and calling it just a PR stunt (since it isn't honest)

It would be quite spectactular if she actually expressed publicly that she is against killing innocent people with drones. As  mother, and as a fairly(?) intelligent human being, I'm sure she can understand the grief and trouble of those families, men, women and children who has lost any family member to a drone strike.

Now, if she opposed this practise in public, she would be 'disloyal' and 'antiamerican', but she could not be punished and put in jail or sent to some camp because she was the president's wife. Most likely, she would just have her right to public speech revoked, and then being guarded quite closely and having her right to express herself being limited.

It would also be quite shameful for the president, and the US. So, to keep her privileged position, she can't really say anything about it, even if she don't like it.

Some people can kiss their kids goodnight at night knowing that a lot of others have no kids to kiss goodnight. As long as it does not affect themselves... When something happens fair away, let's just call it bugsplatter and let's pretend it's not happening, and then we can all keep being happy...

Exactly she can't say much about the US, the US government, and her husband policies and the one he inherited, it just a political game, and this a lot of people understand, but her tweet is a also a political message and a PR stunt, and it shows the double standards and that's why it backfired, that move wasn't so intelligent, while maybe in the US soil on which it woudn't have much opposition it might had good result (US media brainwashing is doing wonders on the average joe) on the international side of thing it is harder to have the same results
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May 19, 2014, 08:02:49 AM
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Exactly she can't say much about the US, the US government, and her husband policies and the one he inherited, it just a political game, and this a lot of people understand, but her tweet is a also a political message and a PR stunt, and it shows the double standards and that's why it backfired, that move wasn't so intelligent, while maybe in the US soil on which it woudn't have much opposition it might had good result (US media brainwashing is doing wonders on the average joe) on the international side of thing it is harder to have the same results

Some people would rather be jobless and poor, and live in shitty conditions, while maintaining their integrity, than living a privileged life on a lie. Unfortunately, people ready to jump into that last position is plentiful.
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May 19, 2014, 08:57:06 AM
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Governments can't be trusted, that is for sure and it is true that US killed many people with drone attacks. But if Boko Haram were given the same power and resources as America has they would kill EVERY non muslim person in whole world, they are too small for that for now.


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May 19, 2014, 09:18:57 AM
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Governments can't be trusted, that is for sure and it is true that US killed many people with drone attacks. But if Boko Haram were given the same power and resources as America has they would kill EVERY non muslim person in whole world, they are too small for that for now.

What kind of twisted logic is this, and what's your point ? There's always some sick ppl around that would kill anyone that wasn't like themselves.

A group called Boko Haram, "western education is a sin" is really far out there. It's about as intelligent as muslim leaders who sacrifices goats and other animals before important meetings for 'good luck', or about as intelligent as countries that make laws disallowing being gay, or countries having laws making it difficult to be an atheist. If there's anything at all that can help this world become a better place it is education.
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