Edward Snowden calls for greater online privacy in Reset the Net campaign

[TheIrishman]

Edward Snowden calls for greater online privacy in Reset the Net campaign

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/05/edward-snowden-privacy-reset-the-net

<< Whistleblower says "Don't ask for your privacy. Take it back" as groups join together to try to encourage online encryption. >>

[bitsmichel]

On the side now, TrueCrypt has disappear, they suggest switching to Microsoft Bitlocker. Microsoft is one of the biggest supporters of the PRISM program, so using Microsoft software for encryption may not be very wise.

Most of the tools, I think, are still too complex for the average joe to use.

[jjc326]

Agree with prior poster.  Most people are in favor of more internet privacy but they don't know how to do that.  I'm not tech-stupid but even I barely get how we can do this.  Let's not demonize Snowden, I'm happy we know what the gov. is up to now. 

[Charlie Prime]

Now we know Mozilla is compromised.  That's good to know, but disheartening.

At least we know from this episode of The SnowJob that these companies also work with the CIA and NSA...

[Chef Ramsay]

^That list can't be totally correct as I can't for the life of me see EFF working w/ the Feds on matters of this sort. I mean, they're the usual ones taking the feds to court for overreach steps. Makes no sense.

[taipo]

^That list can't be totally correct as I can't for the life of me see EFF working w/ the Feds on matters of this sort. I mean, they're the usual ones taking the feds to court for overreach steps. Makes no sense.

Same goes with Freedom of the Press, and the Internet Party.

[Charlie Prime]

^That list can't be totally correct as I can't for the life of me see EFF working w/ the Feds on matters of this sort. I mean, they're the usual ones taking the feds to court for overreach steps. Makes no sense.

They have varying degrees of contamination.  I financially support Startmail and Bittorrent.  I have examined both organizations in depth.  This is a bad association on their part.

EFF receives corporate foundation money.  They are not 100% clean.  There are instances when they avoided certain actions due to outside pressure.  More sins of omission than commission.

[Honeypot]

Edward Snowden has no business endorsing anything LOL

[taipo]

EFF receives corporate foundation money.  They are not 100% clean.  There are instances when they avoided certain actions due to outside pressure.  More sins of omission than commission.

Receiving pressure from the CIA and NSA just means you live in the USA, are doing something right, but choose not to spend the rest of your life in a black-hole prison, there is a chasm of difference between that and working for the CIA and NSA, they are not the same thing.

I am a member of the NZ Internet Party, and also support Freedom of the Press Foundation by way of assisting them develop SecureDrop. These two organisations do not work for the CIA or NSA either, yet you have them in your little collage as well.

[taipo]

Edward Snowden has no business endorsing anything LOL

He can endorse whatever he feels to, its a free world isn't it.

[Swordsoffreedom]

Most of the tools, I think, are still too complex for the average joe to use.

The real question is that the software to hide and increase your privacy is there but people are unaware of its existence
One way to address it is to get the information out but keep the security strong
As the more people that use it the higher the probability someone will try to code a backdoor etc.

Anyways here is a series of software for the average joe +- a few tech levels lol.
https://prism-break.org/en/

[freedomno1]

Now we know Mozilla is compromised.  That's good to know, but disheartening.

At least we know from this episode of The SnowJob that these companies also work with the CIA and NSA...

That is quite the list also a bit scary when you think about it
The price to doing business is to sell all your data to the government .

[taipo]

Most of them are not selling their data to the spooks. Most countries have laws that require companies operating in them to respond to warranted requests. Most of these organisations fit into that category. At the end of the day, even Lavabit eventually handed over some data albeit the most creative way I have seen so far.

Noone wants to go to jail to protect your data flow. Given the right amount of motivation, all operators of systems will cave in and allow access. This is why the onus is on us to use end to end encrypted methods of data storage and transmission.

[Charlie Prime]

Noone wants to go to jail to protect your data flow.

Right there's yer problem.

In the words of Bob Marley:  "Get up.  Stand up.  Stand up for your rights".

More businesses need to get up off their knees and start telling the U.S. Government to Fuck Off.

It's like a prison.  There is no way the small number of enforcers could contain even 10% of the prisoners if they decided to escape.

Houston, a town of 7,000,000 million people, where I do business has only perhaps 700 federal agents with guns.

Texas also has its own military. 

[JohnnyLightning]

He can endorse whatever he feels to, its a free world isn't it.

No.  It isn't.

None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.

[bitsmichel]

He can endorse whatever he feels to, its a free world isn't it.

No.  It isn't.

None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.

Its the wild wild west if anything. Dragnet surveillance and freedom do not go hand in hand

[Swordsoffreedom]

Most of them are not selling their data to the spooks. Most countries have laws that require companies operating in them to respond to warranted requests. Most of these organisations fit into that category. At the end of the day, even Lavabit eventually handed over some data albeit the most creative way I have seen so far.

Noone wants to go to jail to protect your data flow. Given the right amount of motivation, all operators of systems will cave in and allow access. This is why the onus is on us to use end to end encrypted methods of data storage and transmission.

Actually your right if they don't participate they will be shut down I recall a social media site owner choosing to close his service instead of giving information to the Feds about its activities and that was Lavabit although they have my respect for doing that and I would consider using any companies the guy makes in the future.

Anyways your right the onus is on us to figure out how to get past the government snooping to a personal level, and allow internet communication to remain free.

That said reading the Wiki the gov is pretty crazy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavabit

[Bitcoin Magazine]

for God's sake legalize child porn.  yes i said it.  victims of crimes and violence have rights too.

[Benjig]

...“The first effective step that everyone can take to end mass surveillance … don’t ask for your privacy. Take it back.”..

Amen to that and many thanks to opening the eyes of the world, you have done everyone a great service.

[freedomno1]

for God's sake legalize child porn.  yes i said it.  victims of crimes and violence have rights too.

Hmm??? Well that was a weird offshoot but I'll play this line

Yes we should allow people to access it as long as their are no children exploited for it.
How you ask well modeling works and fashion shows heck even an idol group
The New Zealand model vs Nordic Model if you want to get into the nitty gritty of prostitution in general and the difference of it occurring in the shadows away from the police increasing the risks associated with it or allowing it and having areas where it can occur to throw in wrenches.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/sex-workers-like-new-zealand-law-not-canada-s-new-nordic-model-for-prostitution-1.2665431

Now waits for Phin to come in here and attack  

PS: CP is like Crying Terrorism in a discussion so rather than being OH NO we should be censored and be put under mass surveillance because of a few individuals instead of trusting people.

I'll add two wrenches CP was made illegal by Western moralists around 1999 before that it went around just fine, in the 1800's 14 was the age of marriage death 35 so blame an aging population and longer life expectancy towards these new perspectives on this issue.
And to throw a wrench at a Terrorism argument for privacy censoring
American's had 9/11 and in return they recieved the PATRIOT ACT out of that and now they want more powers to continue building up surveillance not just for us but for our children and their generation.
Before that you could travel with big luggage and not be worried about getting on a plane, you could even see off your family up to the airplane.
Things change but that doesn't mean that the old system didn't work most of the time if not all of the time, or that terrorists don't still try to find ways to bypass the system so it's all relative.

This one comes with a video for Net Neutrality
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-xSP_T0VqU
I'll play devils advocate and let the battle continue for privacy.