Havelock or Cryptostocks or something else for investment/crowdsourcing?

[gnix72]

My objective:
1) First off, safe investments/returns in bitcoin securities
2) Second, researching a business proposition, and trying to decide which crowdsourcing platform to pursue for funding
Ideally, both of these would occur at the same location for convenience.

The options I've found to meet both 1 and 2:
Cryptostocks - I have been using Cryptostocks for some time now, and never had a problem.  However, I recently saw this thread and was concerned:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=88036.0
I was one of the early Mt. Gox jumpers due to similar issues with their operation.  My normal rule of thumb in business is that when communication stops, it's time to go.  I just did a withdrawal and everything seems to be working fine.

Havelock - I don't know much about Havelock investments.  I just set up an account there, and I don't like the user interface as much as Cryptostocks, and there seem to be less offerings.  I also can't find the root thread for Havelock investments (the platform) on the forums here, which I always like to read in full before I go with something.

Others - I saw this thread, and note that there are several other options:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=213964.0
- Since I am a U.S. citizen, bitfunder seems to not like me, so I guess that's out.
- Looks like BTCT is in some kind of collapse, or maybe just retool, not sure, but the site didn't give me warm fuzzies
- MPEX I think can only achieve objective 1, not objective 2, so at risk of incurring the ire of MP for being a dumbass for not knowing something I should, I'll just leave it there (sorry this is more of a hobby for me presently...with the full time startup business I'm already running, can't read every thread).

As always, would appreciate any helpful commentary from the community.

[oppahdoggystyle]

Some other stock/investment exchanges are:

Bitcoinbourse.eu (has diverse investment options and heard one of their listed companies is working incorporate multisig to the site, but the site is new so I have no opinions about it.)

Crypto-trade (limited # of investment opportunities, but the site seems legit and seems more focused on currency exchange rather than stocks/investments)

rocktrading (in my opinion, has a good number of investment options. From my knowledge, the site has had no problems in the past in regards to customer funds and no reported instances of scam investments.)

From what I hear, cryptostocks has problems with withdrawals, so I would be careful. Also, cryptostock's owner also owns vircurex, who apparently lost customer funds. So it is risky.

In regards to havelock, the bitcointalk community seems to be angry at them because of the neobee scam incident.



I would invest with a skeptical eye and conduct due diligence into each exchanges and their investment options. I think a responsive support staff is also important.

I'm just speaking from my limited experience. (I personally have made reasonable gains from investing in havelock, bitcoinbourse and rocktrading.)

Hope this helped

[AcoinL.L.C]

People are angry at havelock because they invested in Neo & Bee and Neo & Bee ripped them off. Thats their fault for investing in a cruddy company.

I also like cryptostocks interface, but the volume is usually about 0 shares most days on nearly all their stocks. Many of their listings should be delisted and a good portion are scams. Havelock is fairly safe for the most part, only scam operation on them was Neo & Bee