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July 10, 2014, 01:44:04 AM
Last edit: July 10, 2014, 11:38:06 PM by DaFunkyBeats
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  I guess I was crazy to think that these units would be good to go right out of the box.  The Blizzard's software settings weren't exactly crystal clear when I received those, but at least I was able to get them going w/i a few hours of DHL stopping by.  This, however, is a complete cluster f**k!!  I order a Thunder x3 on July 1st at the closing of their Fiesta sale (aka "get rid of F'd up faulty units that we wired incorrectly" sale.)  Immediately after sending payment I emailed them regarding all of the conflicting PSU information (what little there was) in order to have everything ready to go once I received the Thunder.  Needless to say,  it is now a week+ later and still no reply regarding my initial inquiry!!  So I ordered a Corsair RM1000 thinking that I'd be in the clear... covering the basic power requirements... and knowing that I can plug  into one of my other Corsair units (that are not being fully utilized by my Antminer S1s) if need be.  So I think I'm all set... right?  NO!  Now this!!
  I know my way around the inside of a computer/parts etc etc... but I'm not a wiring/power expert because... well... usually it's just simple & easy, fit the two the match, plug&play, and your good to go.  What is worse, is that it seems as though various parts sites differ in what they call "male" & "female" or "PSU" vs "PCI-E" connectors.  (See descriptions on the site I ordered from.  I think they are backwards & are what got me all screwed up initially.)  What I would consider a "female" connector from the outside (big solid block w/ receiving holes that the "male" plastic prongs would insert into) are actually called "male" on some parts sites because inside the holes is the little metal pins that plug into the tiny holes (female?) on what I would normally call a "male" (plastic "male" prongs, but w/ tiny "female" holes in them"!!!  Arrrggghh!!!  The connectors that I have on the Thunder are 8-pin ("male") plastic prongs w/ gaps in between them... EXCEPT with two prongs in the top-right/bottom-left corner (depending on your view) connected by thin plastic on the outer side.  
Example:  http://img.misco.eu/productmedia/htmlimages/cten/SRH/SRH-1/162146-front2.jpg

   These connected prongs prevent me from plugging them directly into my Corsair RM1000 PSU.  These are considered "male" PCI-Express, correct??  I am assuming that this is what you guys are dealing w/ as well?  To overcome this issue... I had to hunt down a "12" 8-pin PCI-Express to 6+2-Pin PCI-Express Adapter / Extension Cable"   Is this correct...?  (same cables, but described differently on other sites)
Example 1:  http://pactech-inc.com/html/pcie-862mf-xx.htm

Example 2: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/8686/cab-157/12_8-pin_PCI-Express_to_62-Pin_PCI-Express_Adapter_Extension_Cable_CB-PCIE8-EXT.html?tl=g2c699s427

  I would plug the Thunder connectors into the "female" slots/holes in the solid block connector on the LEFT-hand side of this picture? Yes?  This then gives me an 8-pin (6+2-pin) "male" connector to plug into my PSU.  Problem solved, right?  But wait?  What is the deal with all of this "use 8-pins and you'll fry your unit" talk??  (Why would they ship w/ 8 F*'n pins if it was going to fry your new unit?!?!?!)  Anyways...  is this correct?  Should I only use the 6-pins (of the 6+2-pin option)??  If so... can I just plug into any 6-pin slot on my PSU??  Or can I plug the 6-pins into an 8-pin slot & just avoid 2 on a particular side? Which side?  OR... should I just connect the 6+2 and use it as an 8-pin connector... plugging into an 8-pin slot on my PSU?  (Will I be serving "fried Zeus" for dinner?)
   Any and all additional information (and patience) is greatly appreciated!!!  ZeusMiner... you really dropped the ball on this one.  It ends up not being much of a discount if you receive the unit and it sits here as a fancy black paperweight collecting dust for a week!!  I can practically hear (or better yet NOT hear) money wasting away!!  (<sigh>  Okay... thanx for listening. I feel better now. HaHa)   Anyways... I just want to make sure that these are correct.   Some sites say it's a "PSU" 8-pin... not PCI-E... and most of the sites I've looked at show 8-pin psu connectors having all 8-pins separated.  Only those listed as "8-pin PCI-E" had the gap/opening allowing the connected/attached 2 prongs to plug in....??
  Again... thanx for your help (users).  Where are you in all of this ZeusMiner?Huh  HELP!!  ~DaFunkyBeats  

PS - Icing on the a F*'ing cake!!  I get the weekly ZeusMiner Update and see they they are now promoting the same units, but they will use half the power!!  Nice... screwed again!  I wouldn't even mind so much because I realize units improve over time... but it feels like a suckerpunch when I have a unit sitting here for days as a paperwieght because Zeus will not provide ANY type or assistance/recommendation/support... or even ACKNOWLEDGEMENT!!  Aaaarrrggghhh!!!!  <sigh>  Fun times!  Smiley
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July 10, 2014, 03:25:00 AM
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I'm having the exact same problem man

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July 15, 2014, 10:25:24 PM
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I have the same problem,
and I do something like this:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_2VgRpNuuZaYS1jbVdKUVFJZ3M/edit?usp=sharing
And then really fight with connect and now it's working Smiley
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July 16, 2014, 02:30:16 AM
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I have the same problem,
and I do something like this:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_2VgRpNuuZaYS1jbVdKUVFJZ3M/edit?usp=sharing
And then really fight with connect and now it's working Smiley


Spare yourself the trouble and buy a modular psu or two and plug directly into the psu. I can help if needed. Pm me.

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July 17, 2014, 10:13:56 AM
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I have the same problem,
and I do something like this:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_2VgRpNuuZaYS1jbVdKUVFJZ3M/edit?usp=sharing
And then really fight with connect and now it's working Smiley



I got my machine as well yesterday and spent like 10 hours overall trying to make it work with no luck... I got a modular seasonic 1050W PSU which has a weird 12 pin PCIE connector plugged into it, and on the other side, it has two 6/8 pin connectors like the usual PSU's.

So since my thunder has 8 pins as well, I took the dremel and i cut of the 2 unused pins so ended up with 6 pins. This 6 pins went into the PSU (although the PSU has a 12 pin slot for PCIE, it still went in) but then when I connected all 4 cords to my PSU, the PSU refused to work and this kept on happening for hours. If i disconnect everything from the PSU and test it, it works fine, but when connected to the Thunder, it doesnt as if there is some short circuit. I figured the seasonic guys have there own weird PCIE connections so what the hell!! lemme use there cables.

SO, I used there PCIE cable (the 12 pin weird seasonic cable which then divides into two PCIE 6/8 pins) and what I did was to cut of the connector and divide all 6 pins as follows: the yellow PCIE cables should connect to the red thunder cables and the black ones on the black of the device. Guess what!!!! it worked!! the device started up alllll nice and smooth. I then applied that to all 4 device cables cutting each of them!! after a few hours, I had all 4 thunder cables tied up to my PSU. i started the PSU and it fired up just the way I imagined and was hoping it would be!!

Now to my issue!! at this point i was very happy that I did it and that my device sounds loud and all fans are spinning!! I connected the USB cable to my PC and started the miner!!!!!!!! and it immediately goes off!!! Sad I really have no clue what to do now!! I ran out of options, I cut all cables in the Thunder and all wired are kinda connected to a PSU, even trying another PSU would take ages to make it happen!! I am really lost and dunno what to do here!!!
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July 17, 2014, 01:51:55 PM
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I'm having the exact same problem man

take a serraded edge kitchen knife and cut off the two unused connectors on the zeus power plugs - they'll plug right in then

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July 17, 2014, 01:55:15 PM
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I have the same problem,
and I do something like this:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_2VgRpNuuZaYS1jbVdKUVFJZ3M/edit?usp=sharing
And then really fight with connect and now it's working Smiley



I got my machine as well yesterday and spent like 10 hours overall trying to make it work with no luck... I got a modular seasonic 1050W PSU which has a weird 12 pin PCIE connector plugged into it, and on the other side, it has two 6/8 pin connectors like the usual PSU's.

So since my thunder has 8 pins as well, I took the dremel and i cut of the 2 unused pins so ended up with 6 pins. This 6 pins went into the PSU (although the PSU has a 12 pin slot for PCIE, it still went in) but then when I connected all 4 cords to my PSU, the PSU refused to work and this kept on happening for hours. If i disconnect everything from the PSU and test it, it works fine, but when connected to the Thunder, it doesnt as if there is some short circuit. I figured the seasonic guys have there own weird PCIE connections so what the hell!! lemme use there cables.

SO, I used there PCIE cable (the 12 pin weird seasonic cable which then divides into two PCIE 6/8 pins) and what I did was to cut of the connector and divide all 6 pins as follows: the yellow PCIE cables should connect to the red thunder cables and the black ones on the black of the device. Guess what!!!! it worked!! the device started up alllll nice and smooth. I then applied that to all 4 device cables cutting each of them!! after a few hours, I had all 4 thunder cables tied up to my PSU. i started the PSU and it fired up just the way I imagined and was hoping it would be!!

Now to my issue!! at this point i was very happy that I did it and that my device sounds loud and all fans are spinning!! I connected the USB cable to my PC and started the miner!!!!!!!! and it immediately goes off!!! Sad I really have no clue what to do now!! I ran out of options, I cut all cables in the Thunder and all wired are kinda connected to a PSU, even trying another PSU would take ages to make it happen!! I am really lost and dunno what to do here!!!


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the easiest way to determine the ip address of the pi is to download this freeware program : http://www.advanced-ip-scanner.com/


until you do - it's fired up and mining coins into zeus's corporate account. LOL - seriously


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July 22, 2014, 01:11:04 AM
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I'm having the exact same problem man

take a serraded edge kitchen knife and cut off the two unused connectors on the zeus power plugs - they'll plug right in then


Yup... after waiting 4-5 days with not reply to my support request emails... and still another 3-4 days waiting before adapter cables would arrive... I ended up taking a hacksaw to it.  HaHaHa.  It worked fine, but that's generally not how I like to handle tech support issues on a brand new $1300 piece of electronics.  But at least it's up & running now.  It just sucks that the Difficulty shot up 35-45% in those lost days.  I can't imagine Zeus rolling out this worldwise "Scrypt Network" without first getting a grasp on their support approach. 
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