Proof Silkcoin is one of a bunch of similar scams.

[FredDag]

Same voice over people, what is the odds.  I have other evidence but I want to keep it simple.

Sorry, but I just don't hear it.... To me these two recordings do not sound like they use the same voice.

Yes there are similarities.... Male, North American, Clear & Articulate. But there is more than one guy doing voice-overs in that part of the world.

Many people think Canadians & Americans sound the same... as many people think all Americans sound the same...
But of course that is their ignorance shining through.


Could you please provide your other evidence?
No need to keep it simple on our behalf.

[gorillajam]

Same voice over people, what is the odds.  I have other evidence but I want to keep it simple.

Sorry, but I just don't hear it.... To me these two recordings do not sound like they use the same voice.

Yes there are similarities.... Male, North American, Clear & Articulate. But there is more than one guy doing voice-overs in that part of the world.

Many people think Canadians & Americans sound the same... as many people think all Americans sound the same...
But of course that is their ignorance shining through.


Could you please provide your other evidence?
No need to keep it simple on our behalf.

No. Only a scammer or idiot would think they are different people. either way it's not my problem. Smart people have enough to go one here.

[crypt0xx]

If you guys think he's FUD'ing, why don't you just FUD the coin he promotes QORA...

[FredDag]

No. Only a scammer or idiot would think they are different people. either way it's not my problem. Smart people have enough to go one here.

I can assure you that I am neither a scammer, an idiot or a sockpuppet (you forgot that one).
I am also not involved with the Silkcoin project in any capacity other than as a  small-time investor.

Please present the other evidence you have.
I'm happy to look at it with an open mind & I'm sure others would like to see it too.

[FredDag]

Please read carefully... This is the email I sent to Brad Ziffer (the Coinmart voice over guy), and his response...


Reproduced with permission.
Emphasis added by myself to highlight the important bits.

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Email To Brad

Subject: Voice over enquiry - Coinmart, Numus, Silkcoin Projects

Hi,

I was led to your webpage through the BitcoinTalk & DigitalCoin forums where there is currently some passionate discussion about some voice-over work you have done for a couple of projects.
It would be great if you could take a couple of minutes to answer a single question in relation to some claims that are being made about these projects.

First, I am not sure if you are aware, however the Coinmart & Numus projects (referred to in the link below) appear to have been elaborate scams where investors lost money.
http://digitalcoin.co/forums/index.php?topic=988.0

No-one is claiming in any way that you knowledgeable to the intent of the scammers, only that they used your service to produce a very professional & reputable sounding video to sell the scam.


There are now claims that the Silkcoin project (links below) also used your voice, and therefore that project is also a scam.
The developers of the Silkcoin project claim to have used the VoiceBunny service of actor #2T24JCO (link below)...



So, the question is....

Did Brad Ziffer provide the voice over for this Silkcoin video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnMfLxSYVnc



If you could make a statement on this, that would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance
Steve

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Email Response from Brad:

Hi Steve!

I just took a listen to the link u sent. That particular VO is not me, but I have been hired for BitCoin VO via Voices.com and Voice123 in the past.

I'm not aware of any of these things being scams. I'm simply paid upfront to read scripts and turn them over to the client. I'm not involved in any project, beyond narrating the scripts. I'm a full time VO actor... And I often wonder of the validity of the scripts I'm given.

But as I said, that Silkcoin project is not me.

Best,

Brad

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[FredDag]

Same voice over people, what is the odds.

FAIL - See post above. This is NOT the same voice over guy.

I have other evidence but I want to keep it simple.

Please, once again, produce this other evidence.

[FredDag]

Only a scammer or idiot would think they are different people.

Given that the proof is now there that these are in fact different people... And you say that you are not a scammer...
What does that make you?

[TaunSew]

If there were potential legal repercussions- I wouldn't admit being the voice over actor who has been complacent with scams.

I heard both videos and it sounds like the exact same person to me, the 'difference' in the voice seems to be on the recording end, imho.

[gorillajam]

If there were potential legal repercussions- I wouldn't admit being the voice over actor who has been complacent with scams.

I heard both videos and it sounds like the exact same person to me, the 'difference' in the voice seems to be on the recording end, imho.

dude thanks for backing up with the truth. we have argued a lot over NEM. I disagree with NEM in many ways but it's not a Scam. This is an actual fraud that is gonna steal money. Thanks for recognising the difference.

I might even go a little easy on NEM now. 

[karudea]

If there were potential legal repercussions- I wouldn't admit being the voice over actor who has been complacent with scams.

I heard both videos and it sounds like the exact same person to me, the 'difference' in the voice seems to be on the recording end, imho.

dude thanks for backing up with the truth. we have argued a lot over NEM. I disagree with NEM in many ways but it's not a Scam. This is an actual fraud that is gonna steal money. Thanks for recognising the difference.

I might even go a little easy on NEM now. 

You are a shame for crypto
I am a part of Silkcoin since the very beggining, until FUD came, not a SINGLE persone had to complain about anything. It was like 200 pages of pure community and people being impressed, or satisfied with SC.

You are attempting to ruin one of the Altcoin that coulr overtake Bitcoin by it's innovation and active dev/community.

Now give us your "proofs" or stfu. You have nothing, you just a little bitch crying for attention and just dumb people that think the voices are the same (what a proof BTW, this would be a very strong evidence in a court i shit you not) can think SC is a scam.

Now i will tell it only one time :

if you believe this numnuts, you will just loose your chance at one of the leading future altcoin of cryptos. Don't be fools, just look at what silkcoin is and has been. Download the wallet, read the upcoming white paper and make that guorrillashit just close his mouth for good.

I'll stop feeding the troll now.

Guorilla : you suck.

[redhotneo]

gorillajam... why dont you take up a programming course right now.. rather that blow hot air in these forums and do something with silkcoin devs..

You can surely help them.. rather than waist your time and effort discrediting them.

Silkcoin went down due to bad code and unhappy developers that left.. thats all that happened...

The main owner of the coin is working to revive the coin.. wait and see what happens...

HAVE SOME PATIENTS!!!

[slapper]

What is the latest with Silkcoin?

[Falch]

What is the latest with Silkcoin?

Check this topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=664918.0;all